My first S24O

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Zack

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Aug 26, 2011, 4:44:37 PM8/26/11
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Went on my first S24O this week on my new Sam.  I rode from Burlington to Jerusalem and camped in the Camel's Hump State Forest.



This is what I brought:

Slickersack
Trangia cookset
Book to read
Wiggy's sleeping bag (on top)
Headlamp
Coffee setup
Marinated stir-fry, Eggs, bit of salami, macadamia nuts, larabar, rasberries & blueberries, dark chocolate

Saddlesack
Hennessy Hammock
Tools
Pump
Fleece Jacket
Ibex longies
Spare shirt
Spare socks
Opinel knife
Hozan Y wrench (as this was the first time out with this Sam and these racks, thought I may need to make adjustments, and that thing rocks for making adjustments to the nitto racks)

Keven's Bag
Phone
Wallet
Camera
Pencil
Crossword Puzzle


Some things I learned:
  • The Sam is just fine handling this amount of load.  No sway, felt solid underneath me the whole time.  (for the record, I weigh about 220 lbs, so this is a lot of total weight.  i think the marathon duremes may help with the stable feel of the ride, but it's hard to say).
  • Riding on the curves of the Albatross bar is 4/5 as good as riding in drops for me.  It got me down out of the wind, and handling was just fine.
  • The Sam is so much fun on descents, it's one of the most fun things I have ever done.
  • Leave earlier or ride shorter.  I pushed it and ended up making camp in the dark, it sucked.
  • Side roads in Vermont can be brutal.  I am fine on long ascents, but the crazy uphill stuff on Vermont dirt roads really takes it out of me.  I ended up walking the bike a fair bit on these, and ended up being way more tired than I would normally be after riding this long.
  • I don't need so much food.  I ate like half of what I brought.
  • The trangia cookset is awesome.  My first time using it, and it was solid.  Way way better than just using the little triangle windscreen thing and then cooking in something else.  
  • I am not much for taking pictures when I am riding.  I brought the camera, but didn't pull it out.  I was also really feeling the pressure of trying to make good time and beat the sunset, so that was part of it.

Robert F. Harrison

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Aug 26, 2011, 6:09:01 PM8/26/11
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That's almost the exact setup that I use (minus the warm weather gear) on with my QB - SaddleSack, SlickerSack, Hennessey, and Trangia. Works pretty well. Sounds like a great first go round.

Aloha,

Bob

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Thomas Lynn Skean

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Aug 26, 2011, 6:15:45 PM8/26/11
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Again with the SaddleSack Large! You are killing me, man! :)
 
It doesn't help that I used to have a tweed Mini-Bar bag too (yours looks like the Mini-Bar in the photo... is it actually a Keven's?)... but I confess I don't miss it as much as I do that SaddleSack Large.
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who wishes for small-ish front (separate) TourSack-ish panniers... no mounting clips/brackets/hangers, just straps and a dowel!

Peter Pesce

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Aug 26, 2011, 8:42:54 PM8/26/11
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Zack
Beautiful bike. Man, every detail on that is so sweet. I would have fainted if I opened a box from Riv and saw that!
I have never bike camped (best I can manage is a "Sub 2-to-4 Hour" ride) so at first it looked like an awful lot of baggage, but there's nothing on your list you could omit, except some food as you say, so I guess that's what it takes to do a S24O.
Take more pictures next time!
Pete

EastBayGuy

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Aug 26, 2011, 9:30:39 PM8/26/11
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Zach,

Great Bike and Congrats on your first S240. They become easier and easier each time you do one.

Congrats

Dustin G

Walnut Creek Ca


Zack

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Aug 27, 2011, 1:51:41 PM8/27/11
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I can't remember which bag it actually is - what is the difference between the mini bar and the kevens?  It looks to me like a kevens bag, so that's why I call it that.  Purchased it a few years ago when it was on sale I think. 

The use of the bag was definitely one thing that I learned - it's nice to have an easy place to grab stuff out of the bars when riding (snacks, wallet, phone, and camera, which I will indeed take out of the bag more next time).  The slickersack would benefit from a little zippy pocket on the part of the bag that faces the rider I think. As it is, the addition of that bag on the handlebars on my setup was nice.

René Sterental

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Aug 28, 2011, 12:44:03 AM8/28/11
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Zack,

As I look forward to start doing my own S24Os and configure my setup, yours is certainly a great representation of the setup I'm considering with some variations. 

I already have the Platrack and Sickersack for my commute and really like it for the front. I also have a Carradice Long-flap Camper that I'd like to try in the back but that large Saddlesack is quite enticing as well. 

So many options, so little time to just go and get lost...

René

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On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Zack <zac...@gmail.com> wrote:

I can't remember which bag it actually is - what is the difference between the mini bar and the kevens?  It looks to me like a kevens bag, so that's why I call it that.  Purchased it a few years ago when it was on sale I think. 

The use of the bag was definitely one thing that I learned - it's nice to have an easy place to grab stuff out of the bars when riding (snacks, wallet, phone, and camera, which I will indeed take out of the bag more next time).  The slickersack would benefit from a little zippy pocket on the part of the bag that faces the rider I think. As it is, the addition of that bag on the handlebars on my setup was nice.

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Jay

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Aug 28, 2011, 6:40:21 AM8/28/11
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Just came back from a visit to New England which included 5 days
biking in Vermont on my new to me Sam.
Beautiful part of the world this time of year.
The hills were a bit much for this flatlander, especially self
supported, but managed to have a really good time anyway.

Jay

On Aug 26, 11:44 pm, Zack <zack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Went on my first S24O this week on my new Sam.  I rode from Burlington to
> Jerusalem and camped in the Camel's Hump State Forest.
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3RjVQ7WAEVo/TlgFrCEVRNI/AAAAAAAABA...>
>    - The Sam is just fine handling this amount of load.  No sway, felt solid
>    underneath me the whole time.  (for the record, I weigh about 220 lbs, so
>    this is a lot of total weight.  i think the marathon duremes may help with
>    the stable feel of the ride, but it's hard to say).
>    - Riding on the curves of the Albatross bar is 4/5 as good as riding in
>    drops for me.  It got me down out of the wind, and handling was just fine.
>    - The Sam is so much fun on descents, it's one of the most fun things I
>    have ever done.
>    - Leave earlier or ride shorter.  I pushed it and ended up making camp in
>    the dark, it sucked.
>    - Side roads in Vermont can be brutal.  I am fine on long ascents, but
>    the crazy uphill stuff on Vermont dirt roads really takes it out of me.  I
>    ended up walking the bike a fair bit on these, and ended up being way more
>    tired than I would normally be after riding this long.
>    - I don't need so much food.  I ate like half of what I brought.
>    - The trangia cookset is awesome.  My first time using it, and it was
>    solid.  Way way better than just using the little triangle windscreen thing
>    and then cooking in something else.  
>    - I am not much for taking pictures when I am riding.  I brought the

Minh

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Aug 29, 2011, 6:12:16 PM8/29/11
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Zack,

You sure don't waste time getting going! Love the setup but man that
rear bag looks huge!

I'm interested in the food, did you actually make eggs for
breakfast?

Minh--who's dreaming of an S240 this weekend himself.

Zack

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Aug 29, 2011, 9:12:33 PM8/29/11
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Minh - I did indeed make eggs for breakfast.

I think the bag looks right-sized - but I am 6'3" and 220 and riding a 64 cm Sam!

I cracked the eggs and put them in a little nalgene bottle right before I left (eggs keep for a while.  i wouldn't have done this if I was going to be in 100 degree heat all day, but everything I read led me to believe I would be fine leaving them overnight).

One thing that was pretty cool was I rode past about four farms that I usually get food from in my daily life - Laplatte beef, Rockville Market Eggs, and a few Organic Valley dairies.  I actually had that beef and those eggs in my bag as I rode past!  Next time maybe i'll pick stuff up as I roll, could be pretty fun.


Thomas Lynn Skean

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Aug 29, 2011, 9:18:57 PM8/29/11
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Earlier this year I did the egg breakfast on a bike-picnic. Less tedious than I thought. I wrapped the eggs in cloth and put the in a ziploc screw-top bowl.

http://tinyurl.com/3gvhd9a

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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