50K of mixed terrain fun!

[cyclotourist]

A few less miles than the Old Cazadero, but a great time out today!  Furlough day (no pay!) from work, so made the best of it along with a rare 70F morning.  I had hoped to ride a bit further, but it was getting hot and I was getting tired.  And I had a slow leak in the front tire I had to keep pumping up every 20 min or so.  Should probably do something about that...

Took a lot of rest breaks, so lots of bike pics!  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157627264675195/with/6023557692/

I'm hoping to put this along with some other sections into a 100K mixed surface ride.  Could be fun!

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David
Redlands, CA

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improving their taste than from improving their performance. - RTMS

[Solomander]

Nice pix.  I have always wondered what happened to couches after they mated and went off to die.

Joel

[cyclotourist]

I learned that from reading National Geographic.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Solomander <Solom...@aol.com> wrote:

Nice pix.  I have always wondered what happened to couches after they mated and went off to die.

Joel

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[Esteban]

Let's put that 100K together! The perfect distance!

On Aug 8, 7:08 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I learned that from reading National Geographic.
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> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Solomander <Soloman...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Nice pix.  I have always wondered what happened to couches after they mated
> > and went off to die.
>
> > Joel
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> *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would
> probably benefit more from
> improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS

[rcnute]

The couch would make a great secret control.

Ryan

[cyclotourist]

Yeah, "What type of living room furniture is lying alongside Jefferson St?"

improving their taste than from improving their performance. - RTMS

[cyclotourist]

Something like this:  http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/45075466

I love metrics!

improving their taste than from improving their performance. - RTMS

[Ely Rodriguez]

I really would like to have a mixed permanente here in SF.

[Esteban]

David - that looks fun. Put it on the calendar!

Ely - I know people who've done such - you could start with a 100-115K
from the bridge, go up Mt. Tam via RR Grade and include the dirt
section along Samuel Taylor State Park. There ya go!

[Michael_S]

yes David, put it out there for us to plan for, hopefully in the fall when the weather is more tolerable. And I'll  live much closer  by then too.

~mike

[cyclotourist]

I'll see what shapes up!

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Michael_S <mikey...@rocketmail.com> wrote:

yes David, put it out there for us to plan for, hopefully in the fall when the weather is more tolerable. And I'll  live much closer  by then too.

~mike

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[CycloFiend]

On Aug 9, 7:41 am, Ely Rodriguez <elyk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I really would like to have a mixed permanente here in SF.

You'd have to check with Rob, but I think the issue in getting the
permanentes officially recognized was that the route needs to be the most
direct (or maybe it was "reasonably direct") means between points. There's
something about the alternatives of paved routes that has prevented RUSA
from recognizing them.

Of course, Carlos has listed a few specific options -
http://bike.duque.net/ride-calendar.htm

And if you ever are wondering about a route, feel free to contact me
directly. There are usually some sort of non-paved options throughout the
north bay, for sure.

- Jim

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[Steve Palincsar]

On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 10:18 -0700, CycloFiend wrote:
> On Aug 9, 7:41 am, Ely Rodriguez <elyk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I really would like to have a mixed permanente here in SF.
>
> You'd have to check with Rob, but I think the issue in getting the
> permanentes officially recognized was that the route needs to be the most
> direct (or maybe it was "reasonably direct") means between points. There's
> something about the alternatives of paved routes that has prevented RUSA
> from recognizing them.

I raised your question with Crista Borras, RUSA Permanent Coordinator.
Here's what she said:

>
> There are, in fact, many mixed paved/unpaved permanent routes.
> They just have to be controlled like any other permanent route.
> Sometimes, in fact, an unpaved road might be part of a more
> direct route. It as a challenge to design an attractive route
> on scenic, quiet roads that is, in fact, "controlled"
> adequately.
>
> The route taken between controls should be as direct as possible
> to avoid the potential for shortcuts. This is true regardless
> of whether a road is paved or unpaved.
>
> As a general rule the cued distance between any two successive
> controls should be no more than 10% longer than the most direct
> route between those controls, unless the more direct route
> incorporates roads that are illegal to cyclists (interstates or
> otherwise limited access roads), significant stretches of
> high-traffic, high-speed roads with no shoulder, unpaved roads,
> or roads that are dangerous to cyclists for some other good
> reason (e.g., a steep, twisty-turny mountain road with logging
> trucks, poor sight lines and no shoulder).
>
> Not every ride, of course, lends itself to a permanent route
> because to control it would mean having so many controls that
> the rider would have to stop so much that it would become an
> annoyance.