Anyone Regret Selling a Bike?

[Mattt]

Hey Folks,

 

I am contemplating selling my Quickbeam I recently purchased from John on the Forum.  It is in great condition and has barely been ridden.  I am thinking about selling it because I only rode it a few times, don't see riding it much for a while, and could use the cash.  I get my riding time in mostly commuting and what I use my Sam for.  The regret part I think about is will I in a few years change my cycling routine and have a need for the Quickbeam.  I don't know, tough call.  

 

The main I posted this is wondering if anyone in the group regretted selling a bike.

 

Matt

 

     

[PATRICK MOORE]

Yes, I regret selling my first, Waterford, 1995 road custom, which I had altered into a fixed gear beater (Steve! With Dremel! It was fun!). It wasn't nearly as nice in finish and fit and handling (it turned quicker than it should, though this quality was muted with 32 mm tires in place of the 23s) as my current two, but it was still a very nice grocery bike that, with 40 lb in two Carradice panniers on a Tubus Fly, was rock solid. The paint tended to flake on those early Waterford Rivs, but the bike had a great early promise of later Riv-signature handling. And I only got $300 -- $350 for frame and fork.

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[David Blessing]

Yep, I have regretted selling many bikes.  I have over the years bought and sold many, many bikes and in doing so, I have accumulated quite a collection of Riv. or Riv-like bicycles.  I do not regret the selling of my early/middle adult biking career bicycles:  Kestrel, Klein road; but I still regret selling my RB-T and my XO-2.  The bikes I have today more than make up for the Bridgestones, but I still miss them.  Maybe I just need to buy a new Rivendell to medicate the pain.  Cheers.  david blessing

[Tim Whalen]

Yep, me too!  Especially my 58 Orange Rambouillet.  OTH, I've sold some and it made sense and was without regret, and will sell again.

Tim

[Greg J]

Too many to count. Ibis, Appel, Bontrager, Ritchey, on and on. But realistically, I couldn't have kept them all, so you gotta do what you gotta do. Another one, or an even better alternative, will come along.

Greg

[dpco]

I have regretted selling my blue Rambouillet. I later replaced with my Roadeo which I enjoy even more than the Ram. But, I still miss that bike. I would love to find a 60cm Ram. Oh well.
Don

[cyclotourist]

Yes!!! I regret selling my... QUICKBEAM!!!!

Well, only partially really. Like you, I just didn't ride it much,
and when I did I wasn't conditioned to ride a SS so the hills around
here were less than pleasant. When I rode it consistently it wasn't a
problem, but hopping on it once a month or so was tough. Gears are
good and all that.

That said, it was the most unique bike I've ever had, and a pleasure
to ride. It just felt better to me than my other bikes for some
reason. I miss it a lot, and if I had the space for it, would have
kept it. I did use the money to buy another bike, which has been sold
to buy another one.

Bikes do come and go, but a QB is pretty unique. If you think at all
you'll use it more in the future, maybe hold onto it. But if it's
really just going to be an extra bike you hop on now and then, I'm
sure there's someone who could use it :-)

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[James Warren]

Tough hills and just a great riding bike from that Quickbeam frame - that's why many of us have spent a lot of hours working up gearing schemes for the Quickbeam. Can't wait till JTEK makes that 11-speed bar-end shifter for drop bars!

[newenglandbike]

When I was a kid my dad auctioned off my yellow motobike at the Lion's Club auction one summer without telling me.     I don't have any hard feelings over it, but I do miss that bike - I rode that thing everywhere and it is the reason I love riding bikes today.    

The thing about the Quickbeam is that it might not be easy to replace.    Especially since the Simple One seems to be going away.

[rob markwardt]

I sold quite a few bikes that I thought I'd regret but after they are
gone they are pretty much forgotten. I think the key is having a good
replacement (or several). Often selling is an after-effect of buying
so that's usually not a problem. The hard part for me is putting the
bike up for sale. I've got a couple cool bikes that I think should
sell...they've become garage hangers...but the problem is they're
cool. My collector genes kick in an tell me to hoard. I know that
once I got rid of them I'd be fine but it's tough to get to that first
step. Maybe next year.

Rob

> > Well, only partially really.  Like you, I just didn't ride it much,
> > and when I did I wasn't conditioned to ride a SS so the hills around
> > here were less than pleasant.  When I rode it consistently it wasn't a
> > problem, but hopping on it once a month or so was tough.  Gears are
> > good and all that.
>
> > That said, it was the most unique bike I've ever had, and a pleasure
> > to ride.  It just felt better to me than my other bikes for some
> > reason.  I miss it a lot, and if I had the space for it, would have
> > kept it.  I did use the money to buy another bike, which has been sold
> > to buy another one.
>
> > Bikes do come and go, but a QB is pretty unique.  If you think at all
> > you'll use it more in the future, maybe hold onto it.  But if it's
> > really just going to be an extra bike you hop on now and then, I'm
> > sure there's someone who could use it :-)
>

> > On 12/31/11, Greg J <gregkj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Too many to count.  Ibis, Appel, Bontrager, Ritchey, on and on.  But
> >> realistically, I couldn't have kept them all, so you gotta do what you gotta
> >> do.  Another one, or an even better alternative, will come along.
>
> >> Greg
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[PATRICK MOORE]

I solve the problem in a different way: Riding hills on my gearies, I shift just a little lower than on my fixies. Well, sometimes a lot lower, as with loads and very steep hills.

I deal with the problem of fitness lost on gearies for fixed riding by downshifting rather little for hills, except for the very steep ones. Seriously, I can't spin a granny up a hill with comfort: I very quickly get out of breath. It's easier to sit and torque at 50 - 60 rpm in a 30 to 40" gear, depending on tires, load and hill.

More seriously: wouldn't it make more sense to use a Rivendell road bike instead of a QB if you want multiple gears? Is there something wholly unique about the QB (or Simple One, for that matter) that you don't find with other Rivs?

Me, I'd love a QB or a SO -- or to get back that converted 1995 Waterford Riv.

[rcnute]

I had a Quickbeam, sold it, regretted it and got another one. Just
one of my regrettable bike sales. But each sale let me try out
something new, so it evens out.

Ryan

[Beth H]

> The main I posted this is wondering if anyone in the group regretted
> selling a bike.

Yes. I had a Peugeot "Orient Express" mountain bike frame that I had
built up into a really tough commuter about ten years ago:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc039-bethhamon1005.html

It was a beautiful old atb frame, with thick, almost medieval lugs and
a fork crown so big and beefy it made me weep. It was almost too big
for me (21" c-t) but somehow I made it work, and I rode it everywhere,
even taking it on some weekend tours.
When I needed to thin the herd (due to space considerations -- another
bike was coming to the bike ranch), I reluctantly sold the frameset to
the shop where I work. It sold to someone else immediately -- I didn't
know to whom since it sold on my day off -- and I didn't see it again
for a long time. Then, last year, while my bike was hanging vertically
on a hook at the end of the MAX [light-rail] car, I looked across the
aisle and saw my Peugeot hanging on the other hook! It had been
rebuilt with some modifications, including a shorter stem, skinnier
tires and narrower handlebars, but was being ridden by a [taller]
woman who looked like it made her perfectly happy. She got off two
stops before me, hopped on and rode away with ease. And while I was
sad at having to sell the frame, I was glad it was being ridden.

I've since replaced the Peugeot with a Riv All-Rounder frame, which is
smaller, fits me much better, and has an eerily similar build-up:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4983518560/

(If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?)

Beth

[Mike]

I was kind of regretting that I sold my Rambouillet the other day. It
was a tad small. Lately I've been contemplating selling my Quickbeam
which is a tad big. I have the same gearing on my Surly CC (40x18) and
seem to enjoy riding that bike more. I also am much more comfortable
locking it up.

I gotta say, I'm at 5 bikes now (Hilsen, LHT, CC, custom rando and the
QB). That seems excessive. There's some redundancy. I used to think
the one that I couldn't do without was the Hilsen but now I think it's
the LHT. I find the ride on the LHT to be just as nice as the Hilsen
but what inches it up ahead is that it's a bit more versatile.

I think I'd really be just fine with the LHT and the CC. I probaby
shouldn't say that here.

[Geoff]

I'd like to comment on this topic, but from a slightly different angle.  And I apologize(ahead of time) if I vector off too much.

I don't regret selling any of the many bikes that I've owned prior to my first Riv, my Hunqapillar.  I would deeply regret selling my Hunqapillar, ever, as well as any other Rivendell bike that I'd be fortunate enough to acquire in the future.

What I do very much regret, is that I did not discover Rivendell or Grant Petersen before spending all that money, buying so many different types of bikes in my search for a truly comfortable bike to ride.  Names like Univega, Bianchi, Trek, Specialized, Ibis, and Calfee(yes, carbon fiber)...not to mention my foray into the recumbent sector.  All of those traditional bikes that I tried resulted in the same numbing of the hands, wrists, and crotch, and soreness of the lower back and neck.  The recumbents were supremely comfortable, but their unique designs had their own ride quality issues(at least, for me they did).  Though I still own a "tadpole" style recumbent trike, and it's a blast to ride.

[Bertin753]

I just did a short ride on the '03 Curt Custom today after many weeks of riding the trike and Fargo exclusively. Once

again, I was very pleasantly surprised at how perfectly comfortable it was -- thanks again , Grant!

Patrick "tho' I must say that there is something to be

said for multiple gears for hills and headwinds" Moore

Patrick Moore

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[Bill M.]

You can sell bikes? Don't tell my wife!

Bill

On Dec 30, 9:47 pm, Mattt <mattto...@gmail.com> wrote:

[EricP]

Sort of regret selling both my Fargo and my Brompton. But most of the
other ones, not really. Even the Atlantis was not that difficult a
sale, as the bike was too small and could never get comfortable on
it.

The only other regret was a basic Specialized Hardrock Disc from about
7 years ago. Aluminum, shocked fork and all. Mainly for sentimental
reasons. Was my first "good" bike after getting back into riding. And
still would be a decent bike for our trails.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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[William]

I never look back, it distracts from the now. 

OK, I kind of miss my 1993 purple XO-2, sometimes.  At that time I was rolling bikes over at a clip of about 2 per year.  Sometimes more. 

[Eric Norris]

Regrets? Not so much bikes I've sold as bikes I haven't bought. There was a beautiful Richard Sachs with S&S couplers on eBay a few years ago that I could have had for a great price, but I didn't pull the trigger. I still regret that one. 

--Eric N

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[robert zeidler]

I love my Calfee. But it's a different "flavor ". Still tastes good but it is different.

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[Bob]

I like to keep things moving. As long as a bicycle continues to
deliver, it stays in the stable; if not, I will sell it without
looking back.

I just sold a 1984 Trek 610 that had been a very reliable tool for me,
but I did not have a whisp of regret or sentimentality about it.

On the other hand, if a dear friend willed me a bicycle and I thought
about that friend every time I saw/rode/tinkered with that bike, that
would be an entirely different story.

Bob

[Marty]

I tend to catch and release, with few exceptions. I'm always casting for "legal size" (aka: vintage 64cm, but a QB that size is on the wish-list, as is the elusive 61cm All Rounder), but all too often I end up with something less than legal size and quickly throw them back for others to catch. I'm keeping my 2nd Bombadil, and the bike I met my (now) wife while riding (a 70s Proteus that I converted to SS in the late 80s - long before SS was cool.) I would regret giving that one up for sure. Most other bikes I simply photograph for posterity before setting them free. I enjoy "fishing", and the only thing I would truly regret is giving up the sport itself.

[Shifty]

I echo Geoff's comments about wasting money before discovering Rivendell (thank you Jim Thill, Owner of Hiawatha Cyclery for arranging a test ride of a customer's bike, namely Eric's "Hillgreen"). I had most recently been riding my ill-fitting mountain bike for the past month in the Minnesota winter crud when suddenly, we rec'd a rare window of 50° sunny weather. I pulled my Homer out of storage and went for a ride; I swear the clouds parted, sunbeams lit my face and angels began singing, Halleliuah, Halleliuah. It fits and rides that good. Unfortunately, it took 12 ill-fitting bike prior bike purchases before discovering it.

Back to the topic, I've been actively trying to fill the void of a Trek 510 I had in the early 70's, the lowest end model of their so-called silver-brazed lugged, steel bikes. Also, a Marin Tange-tube, steel-fork mountain bike that I'd pay top dollar to get back for winter riding.

Personally, I wish I had never learned the word, "sell" when it comes to bicycles.

[ted]

I don't regret having sold a bike since I haven't, so perhaps I
shouldn't
comment. But ...

I do have a SimpleOne that I haven't been riding much lately. I was
mostly
using it for commuting and since my commute and hours changed recently
it
hasn't seen much use.

But I am definitely not selling it.

I had been considering getting a Quickbeam two or three years ago. But
Riv
was out of my size and were not going to do any more. There was rumor
of a
similar frame sourced out of Taiwan instead of Japan, but nothing
definite.
When they finally put out the call for Simple One pre orders, I went
in the
next day (or close to it) and put down my deposit. I am still glad I
did.
The the riv single speeds are very unique. I think even more so than
their
other models. I don't think there is another 120 spaced slotted rear
dropout
bike on the market today with bottle, and fender, and rack, and other
rack
braze on fittings, lugged, and a nice fork crown. I have mine set up
with
longboards, a Nitto mini in front and a R-14 top rack in back with not
a P
clamp in sight. Much cleaner and works better than other fixed/ss
builds I
have cobbled together in prior years.

Since they are now in the "real sale" for way cheep, I suspect when
this
lot is gone it might be forever before they do another run. Getting a
similar
frame from a custom builder would cost a lot. Finding one used is hit
and
miss. If you don't have one, think you might ever want one, and can
afford
it, you might want to grab one cheep before the sale is over. If you
have
one and think you might ever miss it, you might want to hang on to it.

Ted

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[Philip Williamson]

I regret breaking my Peugeot Canyon Express, and I (kind of) regret
selling a WTB tandem wheelset, but I don't sell bikes. I've had the
same few bikes for more than 10 years. In that decade I did buy and
sell a Bianchi Premio, and gave away a Specialize HardRock, a Robin
Hood, and an AMF cruiser. I don't regret any of those. My bikes end up
so dialed for my preferences that selling them make no financial,
emotional or functional sense. I did consider selling all my bikes to
buy and build a Jones steel spaceframe, though...

Philip

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[Angus]

I've "repurposed" bikes, and only sold when it was VERY clear that I
had "moved on."

I sold two early Rivendell frames, a 59.5cm Road Standard and a 57cm
Cyclocross (see RR8...i think). I don't regret selling the bikes as
aging back, wisdom (listened to Grant) and being very happy on 64cm
Rivendell's meant I have moved on.

This does mean I hold onto bikes for quite a while...

Angus

[George Schick]

I've always kind of regretted selling a bike that I built from the
frame-up back in the late 70's. I bought the frame from an LBS called
"Turin Bike" on Clark Street (I think) in Chicago in and about 1977
and equipped it with mostly Campy Record components of the era - along
with, of course, the obligatory Cinelli bars and stem. That was one
nice riding bike - a road racing bike of that time, actually.

But then a couple of kids came along and I had to give some stuff up
for a decade or two to make ends meet. I finally turned my attention
back toward high quality products in the early part of the Twenty-
First Century, bought one of those orange Rambouillet frames, and
built it up with some darn nice state of the art components. Man, how
I wish I would've had it 35 years ago - I don't think I'd have ever
purchase another bike (except that Surly 1x1 I have that serves as my
general purpose do-it-all knock around bike).

[Mattt]

Great hearing from all of you with your stories. The experience you have is valuable even if it is about selling a bike. I still have not made a decision, but will get there. Hope everyone has a great 2012.

 

 

Matt

[Jared Volpe]

For any of you on the fence about selling your Riv and want to know it
would go to a good home, drop me a line.

If I don't find a used Riv soon, I'm going to break down and buy a
64cm Surly LHT when they hit the market.

I'm 95-96cm in the PBH. Comfortable with a seat height of 83 - 84cm.

I'm looking to do some commuting and short (< 1 week) tours. Fire
roads, back roads, etc. Seems like a lot of Rivs would fit the bill.

According to Keven@Riv the following frames would work:

64cm Sam Hillborne
62cm Hunqapillar
64cm Bombadil
67cm AHH
66cm Atlantis
66cm Rambouillet

There should be no regrets selling your Riv to a good home! You can
even have first right of refusal!

Jared

PS I'm in Berkeley, CA. You can even have visitation rights if you
are local!

[KenP]

Had to sell a Saluki because it was too small and needed space at home.  Got a new Saluki of the correct size.  Here's what I regret: selling the fist one for much less than what it was worth.

[colin p. cummings]

I sold a green QB two years ago and still regret it. I have a picture
of me standing over it on a bright summer day packed to ride to the
canyon outside Amarillo, TX. I am beaming. That was a good day.

[Kelly Sleeper]

Colin,

Do we get to see the picture? Please :)  

Kelly

[Ray Shine]

Colin -- What canyon outside Amarillo?  Is it in a park or a greenbelt?

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[LF]

On Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:47:24 AM UTC-5, Mattt  trepidatiously pondered:

<snip> will I in a few years change my cycling routine and have a need for the Quickbeam?

I say:
Life is unpredictable, filled with surprises, some of them quite pleasant.
I've regretted getting rid of things, including bicycles, but more and more delight in less and less.
You could find a good answer to your question by pondering it while cleaning out your most cluttered closet.

Best,
Larry

 

     

[Joe Bernard]

I have an opposite answer. I regret BUYING a recumbent trike brand new. Silly me, I should've picked up a used one to see if I would dig it. I was just SURE a trike would be the real humdinger. I sold it a year later in still brand new condition at not a brand new price to a very nice and grateful guy. Turned around and bought my AHH. Never looked back..no regrets.

[Bruce Herbitter]

In 2005, I built up a go-fast bike with a Reynolds 853 frame and carbon fork. Two years later, multiple tweaks to get it comfy had a stem extender to get the bars up and a B-17 saddle, and bigger cogs in back, and I realized that it was just the wrong bike for me. I sold it and used the money to buy my 1st Riv, a Rambouillet, which CAME with higher handlebars, smoother steel fork, better geometry, longer chain stays and smart gearing.  I did NOT regret selling the racer.

[EricP]

Oh how I agree with that sentiment. The day I purchased a Bianchi
Volpe as a present to myself for one weight loss goal was the day I
discovered Rivendell. After buying the Bianchi, of course. In 20/20
hindsight could have waited a day or two longer and ended up with an
Atlantis or Bleriot instead.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

[colin p. cummings]

Palo Duro Canyon, 2nd largest canyon in the nation. Guess which one
is first.

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> Colin -- What canyon outside Amarillo?  Is it in a park or a greenbelt?
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> Subject: [RBW] Re: Anyone Regret Selling a Bike?
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> I sold a green QB two years ago and still regret it.  I have a picture
> of me standing over it on a bright summer day packed to ride to the
> canyon outside Amarillo, TX.  I am beaming.  That was a good day.
>
> On Dec 30 2011, 11:47 pm, Mattt <mattto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Folks,
>
> > I am contemplating selling my Quickbeam I recently purchased from John on
> > the Forum.  It is in great condition and has barely been ridden.  I am
> > thinking about selling it because I only rode it a few times, don't see
> > riding it much for a while, and could use the cash.  I get my riding time
> > in mostly commuting and what I use my Sam for.  The regret part I think
> > about is will I in a few years change my cycling routine and have a need
> > for the Quickbeam.  I don't know, tough call.
>
> > The main I posted this is wondering if anyone in the group regretted
> > selling a bike.
>
> > Matt
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