What's that????

[Dieter Waechter]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150890331475
I never saw that book.
88 pages? A joke, or what.
Dieter

[Nick]

Its just one of these scam companies that rip Wikipedia articles and automatically format them into a "book" - the references & linked articles are also automatically pulled in if possible. Its them "print on demand"

Scam - its all on Wikipedia for free anyway.

[kay486]

Ive been really suspicious about this too. Saw that on ebay yesterday, and i was pretty certain it wasnt anything legit.

[threeneurons]

Here's a blog on these types of publishing companies. Both Alphascript and Betascript, are VDM Publishing:

http://www.chrisrand.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/27/odd-tale-alphascript-publishing-betascript-publishing/

Its mostly legal, but clearly these people have no ethical or moral values. Publishing things from the public domain, and charging a lot of money for it. I could see it, if they did it as a service, and charged a nominal fee. But as the article mentioned, no humans seem to be actually involved in compiling the data. Some "bot" just vacuums in some Wikipedia verb-age, and craps out a book. That's probably also farmed out to some "publishing-on-demand" service, of which there a few on the net. They also sell thru Amazon, and other such vendors. The blog author fails to mention, that Amazon, also works as a broker, so most of its wares, it doesn't even stock. Amazon in most cases works more like eBay, but the identity of the seller, is more obscure, than it is on eBay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Print_on_demand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDM_Publishing

Start your own Amazon store, and sell used unwashed hankies:

http://webstore.amazon.com/?ld=SEWBGSRCH-3785&s_kwcid=TC|12902|amazon%20stores||S|e|21826358036

There is a lawsuit pending, though the Wordpress article has been deleted.

[Terry Kennedy]

On Aug 30, 10:30 pm, threeneurons <threeneur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Its mostly legal, but clearly these people have no ethical or moral values.
> Publishing things from the public domain, and charging a lot of money for
> it. I could see it, if they did it as a service, and charged a nominal fee.

This is the reason I stopped posting newly-scanned out-of-copyright
technology book scans on my web site (older example at
http://www.tmk.com/books/eastriver/index.shtml for reference).
Companies were taking these, ignoring my copyright notice on the
markup, layout, and presentation, and then selling badly laser-printed
copies to unsuspecting buyers. Some of the copies they sold still had
my Facsimile Edition copyright notice in there, and some buyers would
complain to me and I'd have to explain that I had nothing to do with
those cheap editions (my print editions have duplicates of the
original covers, including anything like gold leaf).

What I found most annoying was that a University Press (to remain
nameless) was doing this to some of my work. I actually bought a copy
and discovered it didn't have the illiustrations in it (but it did
have some "bugs" I put in the PDF's to detect this type of copying).
When I called and asked about the missing plates (without identifying
myself), they actually had the nerve to tell me I should contact
[myself] to get a set of the illustration plates sent out for free.

The last time I checked, this sort of scam was all over bookfinder -
you'd see listings for "this is a print-on-demand copy of a classic
out-of-print article" that they're selling for 3x the price of a
genuine original magazine copy.

[kay486]

Another question, whats this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/242-Magic-Eye-Nixie-Readout-Tube-Patents-on-CD-ROM-/360140049244?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53da050b5c

On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:42:57 UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote:

[threeneurons]

I've had that on my eBay "Watch" list for several months. I might actually get one. Its at least reasonably priced, and worth having. As I mentioned earlier, in this same thread, if they charged a reasonable price, then any of these reproduced, public domain docs, could be worth getting. However, I'm not paying $50+ for a few crappily scanned, or badly OCR'd, pieces of paper.

[kay486]

Hi there, i found an interesting book on ebay, i dont know its its good or rare, but i though some of you might like it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Counting-Tubes-Theory-and-Applications-by-Curran-and-Craggs-Butterworth-Scienti-/150971470527?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item232699d2bf

On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:42:57 UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote:

[John Rehwinkel]

> Hi there, i found an interesting book on ebay, i dont know its its good or rare, but i though some of you might like it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Counting-Tubes-Theory-and-Applications-by-Curran-and-Craggs-Butterworth-Scienti-/150971470527?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item232699d2bf

I don't recognize it either, but it sounds like a good buy. We should decide who will bid on it (I'm willing) so we don't bid against each other!

- John

[Bryan Goines]

there is  a "Buy it now" button. get it :)

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[Tidak Ada]

I am interested too. So if I one of you buys and makes scans, I would beg tor a copy.

Best seems me that one in the US does the purchase (lowest shipment), however I am prepared to buy if you want.

 

eric

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[Quixotic Nixotic]

On 28 Dec 2012, at 19:40, Bryan Goines wrote:

> there is a "Buy it now" button. get it :)
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> Bryan Goines

Whomsoever blagged it will, I hope, scan all 88 pages for us.

John S

[Bryan Goines]

I just googled for book title and found more: 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0007EA6BC/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Google books showed 235 pages 

http://books.google.com/books/about/Counting_tubes.html?id=mYZRAAAAMAAJ

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[Tidak Ada]

I read 238 pges in the Ad !!

eric

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[Mike Harrison]

Yes it is a joke - it's just a bunch of Wikipedia pages printed into book form - total rip-off from
a bunch of scammers called Alphascript/Betascript.
I got something similar from Amazon on a different subject a while ago - sent it back for a refund.

http://www.chrisrand.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/27/odd-tale-alphascript-publishing-betascript-publishing/

[Terry Kennedy]

On Dec 28, 2:58 pm, Quixotic Nixotic <nixci...@jsdesign.co.uk> wrote:
> Whomsoever blagged it will, I hope, scan all 88 pages for us.

If this is the book I'm thinking of, it is actually about
scintillation counter tubes (Geiger counters). This would seem to be
confirmed by the list of related books that Google shows.

[kay486]

I see there was bigger interest in that book than i though. Did somebody from this group buy it?