GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

[Raymond Weisling]

Greetings everyone,

I am the person who started the Neonixie-l Yahoo group a long time ago (10 years?) and who developed the B-7971 GeekKlok and Four Letter Word products.

I have earned a bad reputation due to a financial meltdown and some number of units that never were able to be shipped, which I deeply regret. I have been trying for about 4 years to get things in better shape, but got hit with all kinds of financial problems, health expenses and stuff that never seemed to end. In addition, the database of sales and in shipped sales was lost in a computer wipeout. (Two hard disks had the data for backup in case a disk failed, but both were creamed by a lightning induced power surge. A CD-ROM backup of the data also was not readable.) Luckily the technical data for making these was all saved on another HD and CD.

I give up. It doesn't look like I'll every be able to get back into that endeavor.

However, if anyone is interested in helping me out of my financial morass and is interested in buying the rights and all documentation to continue make these products in the future, please contact me off list. Ian Griffin in UK has no less than 700 tubes left, maybe more, and that'd make a lot of GKK and FLW. Several hundred, anyway. plus those who have tubes that they'd bring out of boxes or remove from other widgets.

What you (the buyer) would get is all PCB files in Gerber format, including the single and split PCB versions. The split ones are great, and a very few of them were produced.

You get all source code in assembler as well as the object files for the latest version. I may be able to source the microcontrollers, serious inquiries will be followed up by my checking one potential source here in Indonesia that may have hundreds.

You get a small inventory of random parts, as there isn't much left, but a few items are in larger quantities.

You also would get around 10 B-7971s. I don't know how many, exactly.

You also get all source files for the user manuals which were around 30 pages in length.

How much do I want? This will be an open bidding process. Frankly I need money to cover debts, medical costs and whatnot. The starting bid is $7971. Just joking. I reverse that statement. The starting bid will be $1797. If the bid exceeds $2222 I will pay shipping. That's To Win 2222 (2N2222, heh heh).

That's what I have to offer. Sorry everyone for making a mess of this fine product.

Email me at zetalink.ray [(at)] gmail.com for more info or to place a bid.

Happy neondaze, y'all.

Ray

[Raymond Weisling]

Also I would include a number of different drawings for laser-cut acrylic cases that are very attractive, both for the large board and split PCB versions. These are FreeHand or Corel-draw files that any laser cutting operation can do. These cases also could be sold to retrofit to existing FLW/GKK units

[Greg P]

How about using the money you get from the sale to pay back the people
you ripped off.

[Raymond Weisling]

Noble idea, but I have no surviving records of who was left unsupplied. Furthermore, with debts over 4x the opening amount and at 2.5 to 4% PER MONTH interest, I have to settle that first.

"Ripped off" implies it was quite by design and quite intentional. The products are sound designs with solid engineering and high quality. Far from your everyday hit and run scam.

[Zane Faught]

I was one of those people that you ripped off.  Hundreds of purchases on the web, and you are the one and only time a transaction was misrepresented.

I can't believe anyone would trust you to deliver on this offer.

Zane

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[aarggh @aarggh.com]

This really sounds like another scam, selling the rights? What's to say you aren't "selling the rights" to everyone who makes an offer, given there is only a small amount of physical vs software items, this could be another pyramid scheme. It certainly looks that way to me, especially as you don't appear to have any shame.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Raymond Weisling <zetali...@gmail.com> wrote:

Also I would include a number of different drawings for laser-cut acrylic cases that are very attractive, both for the large board and split PCB versions. These are FreeHand or Corel-draw files that any laser cutting operation can do. These cases also could be sold to retrofit to existing FLW/GKK units

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[Terry S]

And out of the wormwood crawls the worm....

[Instrument Resources of America]

I just hope and pray that no one here is dumb enough to buy it,
without taking receipt first,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pay later. Ones who do
not learn from history, are apt to make the same mistakes over and over.
Ira.

[NeonJohn]

On 12/02/2012 10:17 PM, Zane Faught wrote:
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PLEASE! Can we stop this crap?

Rehashing this issue yet again will accomplish absolutely nothing other
than making this an unpleasant list to be on.

Try shutting up for a change, y'all!

John

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[Gene Segal]

I have never dealt with R Weisling directly, but I do enjoy the Nixie group he started. 

The one thing that confuses me:  if Ray lost all his customer data, but still had access to the Nixie group he started, couldn't he have recreated the database by posting on the list?  Couldn't he have responded directly to the customers he accepted payment from who were requesting product or refund from him on the list?  I know firsthand that it's not fun getting burned.  How about a 3rd party escrow as a solution?  I think this is done for things like transferring domain names and such. Funds are held in a 3rd party account until all conditions of the deal are satisfied.   Just a thought.

[aarggh @aarggh.com]

Really! Seriously! How about following your own advice?

 

Or you could just...you know, NOT take note of this particular thread! Or do all threads have to be approved for consumption by you?

 

WTF!

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[aarggh @aarggh.com]

I think the fact that all hard drive and CD backups of any customer details were lost, but all copies of the project code and data were safe and intact says it all!

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Gene Segal <wave...@earthlink.net> wrote:

I have never dealt with R Weisling directly, but I do enjoy the Nixie group he started. 

The one thing that confuses me:  if Ray lost all his customer data, but still had access to the Nixie group he started, couldn't he have recreated the database by posting on the list?  Couldn't he have responded directly to the customers he accepted payment from who were requesting product or refund from him on the list?  I know firsthand that it's not fun getting burned.  How about a 3rd party escrow as a solution?  I think this is done for things like transferring domain names and such. Funds are held in a 3rd party account until all conditions of the deal are satisfied.   Just a thought.

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[Nick]

This thread is being locked.

If you have any issues about this item, or want to bid, mail Ray directly.

Nick