Is MLO still alive?

[Peter D]

Is MLO development still happening? The IPAD version went into Beta
in September but haven't heard anything since. In fact haven't heard
ANYTHING since late last year. Any chance of an update? I've been a
fan and user of MLO for a number of years now, but a mobile (IPAD)
version is critical to me. Two potential alternatives (Wunderkit) and
Pocket Informant have released new versions recently that look quite
good and I just want to know whether a MLO release is close and I
should wait.

[Mark Levison]

I'm not an ipad user but I still see traffic about it on the beta mailing list. Andrey is a little bit more cautious than I would be but there upside is that I think an excellent product is brewing.

Cheers
Mark - Sr MLO tea leaf reader

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[Peter D]

Thanks Mark. Appreciate the tea leaf reading :)

I understand cautious but at least some communication that development
is continuing would be great. There's so many companies that develop
software up to a point and then dissapear or find something 'more
interesting' to do that having no communication at all is not a good
thing. Beta testers only make up a small portion of the customer
base, so I wouldn't rely on keeping only them updated. Obviously
Andrey is not a 'hype' sort of guy (which is good), but you can't do
no communication with your customers either as he does work in a
competitive market with new products coming out all the time. Loyalty
only gets you so far if your customer doesn't know what your doing and
will assume you're not doing anything and maybe even gone!

Yes I'm having a rant, but then I'm having it not to be a pain but
because I like the product. If I didn't like it then I would simply
buy someone elses and not say anything!

On Feb 6, 11:13 am, Mark Levison <m...@mlevison.com> wrote:
> I'm not an ipad user but I still see traffic about it on the beta mailing
> list. Andrey is a little bit more cautious than I would be but there upside
> is that I think an excellent product is brewing.
>
> Cheers
> Mark - Sr MLO tea leaf reader

> On Feb 5, 2012 6:28 PM, "Peter D" <peter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Is MLO development still happening?  The IPAD version went into Beta
> > in September but haven't heard anything since.  In fact haven't heard
> > ANYTHING since late last year.  Any chance of an update?  I've been a
> > fan and user of MLO for a number of years now, but a mobile (IPAD)
> > version is critical to me.  Two potential alternatives (Wunderkit) and
> > Pocket Informant have released new versions recently that look quite
> > good and I just want to know whether a MLO release is close and I
> > should wait.
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[Mark Levison]

Peter - I've told Andrey a few times that the thing he needs to work on most is communication. Now I'm telling him again.

Cheers

Mark

[pottster]

Leave it long enough and there will be nobody to communicate with. Apart from frequency I think the other problem with communication is consistency. I'm never sure where to go for the latest information; Facebook, Twitter, Blog(s), Webpage, Wiki, forums (this one or Beta), etc etc. It's a shame because the feeling of personal investment and involvement from Andrey used to be one of the best things about MLO. There is a saying in software development about developers "going dark" when they get caught in the trap of waiting to issue perfect code at the expense of keeping users informed about progress. Not sure if that's the case here or whether it's just that Andrey is overstretched. Maybe both. Either way, you can buy a lot of time and goodwill just by keeping people in the picture. Little and often is best.

[Mark Levison]

Ken this is exactly what I advise my clients to do and have suggested to Andrey several times ofter the years. I coach/teach/... Agile software development for a living.

While no agile method tells you exactly how to engage your stake holders it's usually during as simple as a monthly demo (webcast maybe?), with regular releases. For an app likely MLO a monthly our bi monthly release cycle probably makes sense. The idea would be to make most releases small. We as users could decide on month by month basis if the new features were enough to make the effort worthwhile.

Andrey take up three challenge be consistent in your communications. Set a MLO task to show us working software every month :-)

Cheers
Mark

On Feb 5, 2012 11:08 PM, "pottster" <kenwar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Leave it long enough and there will be nobody to communicate with. Apart from frequency I think the other problem with communication is consistency. I'm never sure where to go for the latest information; Facebook, Twitter, Blog(s), Webpage, Wiki, forums (this one or Beta), etc etc. It's a shame because the feeling of personal investment and involvement from Andrey used to be one of the best things about MLO. There is a saying in software development about developers "going dark" when they get caught in the trap of waiting to issue perfect code at the expense of keeping users informed about progress. Not sure if that's the case here or whether it's just that Andrey is overstretched. Maybe both. Either way, you can buy a lot of time and goodwill just by keeping people in the picture. Little and often is best.

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