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Max Stavisuk

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Apr 7, 2012, 4:44:55 PM4/7/12
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Feature request:
When few tasks are selected and have min and Max times entered, would
be great if sum if Max time and min time is shown somewhere.this way
it would be possible to plan a day.
Example could be Excel: when few values are selected, sum is shown in
the status bar.

Christian Sachs

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Apr 8, 2012, 6:13:47 AM4/8/12
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I would like to add my voice to this feature request.
It would really make planning much more efficient.

Jon

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Apr 8, 2012, 11:16:55 AM4/8/12
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Ditto.

This kind of feature would be terrific!

Richard Collings

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Apr 8, 2012, 6:44:16 PM4/8/12
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Sounds good to me.   Although this is the sort of thing which would be even better if one could sum these figures on a day by day basis (as part of the calendar view!).

 

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Mark Levison

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Apr 8, 2012, 8:30:31 PM4/8/12
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Friendly reminder, +1 on a mailing list is fine however feature requests need to go on mlo.uservoice.com where we can see how many of your 10 votes they get.

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Mark Levison - forum grouch.

Matthews, Susan

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Apr 9, 2012, 6:02:39 AM4/9/12
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I think MLO would be greatly improved if it had a gantt option. I think it is very difficult to see things in context otherwise. The thought of having to take it all into excel is a bit of a faff.
 


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Richard Collings

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Apr 9, 2012, 12:10:02 PM4/9/12
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There has been much debate about this over the last few years.

 

There are those of us who would like MLO to have something (‘Gantt chart’,  ‘Calendar’ ,  ‘Thing’) which helps us see/calculate/visualise what work we have got coming up so that we can see whether we are overloaded or not and whether we are going to meet our deadlnies;   and those who don’t (it seems) have this problem (they don’t have deadlines?) who feel that this would be a ‘bridge too far’ and that MLO should just stick with helping us decide what task should we should do next.

 

Whilst I agree these are not easy problem to solve (am I overloaded or not;  when can I get this job done by, etc),  the value of being able to see something that provides some indication of this would be to my mind extremely useful as we already have most of the information entered,  it is ‘just’ a question of finding a way of displaying this information

 

Richard

Richard Collings

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Apr 9, 2012, 12:23:20 PM4/9/12
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Here is one of the topics where it is being discussed:

 

http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general/suggestions/1043201-calendar-overview

 

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Greg.O

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Apr 9, 2012, 2:11:31 PM4/9/12
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Eh, it's amazing how many times these requirements (calendar, workload
estimation) have been raised over the years. And so frustrating how
the suggestions get repeatedly ignored or shot down with "bridge-too-
far" or "MLO is an outliner only and should stay so" arguments.

Lack of any workload estimation functionality is the main reason why
I've given up on MLO (found I can tweak OneNote to my requirements
better). I still hope this will be addressed at some point though
(which is why I keep reading the forum).

Regards,
Greg

On Apr 9, 5:23 pm, "Richard Collings" <r...@rcollings.co.uk> wrote:
> Here is one of the topics where it is being discussed:
>
> http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general/suggestions/1043201-cale...
> erview

Richard Collings

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Apr 9, 2012, 7:06:41 PM4/9/12
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Although an advocate of doing something, I think there is justifiable
concern that adding such a capability would add significantly to the
complexity of the product whilst not actually solving the underlying
requirement.

I feel sure that the problem can be solved and in a way that fits with the
MLO philosophy of providing a set of tools which can be used in a variety of
different ways but I can also see that it is not easy problem to solve.

I think a key element should be that the new facilities should not intrude
on the existing capabilities so that those who do not want such a facility
will not be encumbered by it.

If you have any specific ideas - particularly, some small simple steps that
would deliver some useful improvements (perhaps along the lines that have
already been suggested), I would suggest that now would be good a time to
put them forward.

How are you using One Note to forward plan your work?

Richard

Greg.O

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Apr 10, 2012, 6:03:35 PM4/10/12
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Hi Richard,

Calendar/workload-estimation features have been discussed more than
enough already. You've been on this forum long enough to know that :)

We really don't need to be going through ideas again. Enough posts
have been written about this to kick-start things. Unfortunately,
there has never been any willingness by the development team to look
into the requests.

Just looking through my profile I can see a few posts / suggestions I
started plus a few I added my voice to:

1. Display the total of all "time required for this task" values for a
group in to-do view. (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
browse_thread/thread/19ba18c5e321ade4/b999d03b23fc80a3?q=)
2. Feature request - maximum-workload constraint.(http://
groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/browse_thread/thread/
e8e088b0ffd0d23/fb0de173d7bd651?q=)
3. Feature request - update "time required for this project" as task
are completed (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
browse_thread/thread/34d4b031c44f28d/15378ad93e9b8905?q=)
4. Calendar: (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
browse_thread/thread/4756e00b5827d78a/ebede88c475720fa?q=)
5. Calendar wars (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
browse_thread/thread/7a4d7b1c10dc530e/695588a597735757?q=)
6. Calendar for MLO (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
browse_thread/thread/62a4adf208400087/8b30c3e5c0a897ff?q=)

I'm sure there are many more posts on the subject. IMO, we don't need
yet another thread discussing details. Maybe if the developers showed
a hint of interest that would make sense. Otherwise it's just a waste
of time, if you ask me. Or maybe I'm just a disillusioned user :)

As for One Note, nothing beats its feature set for keeping and
organizing copious amounts of information. It's an amazing outliner as
well (the ability to roll up several pages of information into a
nicely ordered overview outline with a simple double-click is a
Godsend). Plus I can just flag any item as a calendar event with a key
shortcut and have a corresponding Outlook even created automatically.
I then drag it to the required size (15mins, 2h, half a day etc.) and
can see straight away how my workload is looking and whether I've got
any free time left or I'm overcommiting myself. I try to get back to
MLO sometimes but find that, overall, OneNote allows me to manage my
workload much much better. I work with IT projects and need to be able
to not only manage tasks but also easily store screenshots, embed
documents, tag things for easy retrieval etc. Plus of course visualize/
manage my workload. Can't do that with MLO unfortunately.

Regards,
GReg

Mark Levison

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Apr 11, 2012, 2:14:01 AM4/11/12
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Greg - Andrey has always been very quite about what he's working on.

My concern and I suspect his - a good calendar is a very very big problem. An initial implementation will cost a lot of time/money and frustrate people with its limitations. We will spend the next as Andrey and co. work to build bigger thing everyone wants. In the meantime other goals won't be met.

It might help if people explained what business problem they're trying to solve with this Calendar. This would allow Andrey to focus his efforts on the right target.

Cheers
Mark

Max Stavisuk

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Apr 13, 2012, 6:50:09 PM4/13/12
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I have added the original feature request on site:

Please vote for it. It should be WAY simplier than a calendar, but will allow to plan time. 

Понеділок, 9 квітня 2012 р. 19:10:02 UTC+3 користувач Richard C написав:

There has been much debate about this over the last few years.

 

There are those of us who would like MLO to have something (‘Gantt chart’,  ‘Calendar’ ,  ‘Thing’) which helps us see/calculate/visualise what work we have got coming up so that we can see whether we are overloaded or not and whether we are going to meet our deadlnies;   and those who don’t (it seems) have this problem (they don’t have deadlines?) who feel that this would be a ‘bridge too far’ and that MLO should just stick with helping us decide what task should we should do next.

 

Whilst I agree these are not easy problem to solve (am I overloaded or not;  when can I get this job done by, etc),  the value of being able to see something that provides some indication of this would be to my mind extremely useful as we already have most of the information entered,  it is ‘just’ a question of finding a way of displaying this information

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthews, Susan
Sent: 09 April 2012 11:03 AM
To: 'mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: [MLO] Re: Time calculation total

 

I think MLO would be greatly improved if it had a gantt option. I think it is very difficult to see things in context otherwise. The thought of having to take it all into excel is a bit of a faff.

 

 


From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Collings
Sent: 08 April 2012 23:44
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Subject: RE: [MLO] Re: Time calculation total

Sounds good to me.   Although this is the sort of thing which would be even better if one could sum these figures on a day by day basis (as part of the calendar view!).

 

From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Sent: 08 April 2012 4:17 PM
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Subject: [MLO] Re: Time calculation total

 

Ditto.

This kind of feature would be terrific!

On Sunday, April 8, 2012 11:13:47 AM UTC+1, Christian Sachs wrote:

I would like to add my voice to this feature request.
It would really make planning much more efficient.

On 7 Apr., 22:44, Max Stavisuk <maxe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Feature request:
> When few tasks are selected and have min and Max times entered, would
> be great if sum if Max time and min time is shown somewhere.this way
> it would be possible to plan a day.
> Example could be Excel: when few values are selected, sum is shown in
> the status bar.

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Matthews, Susan

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I think you have a great product. This is the one ommission that severely restricts the product as far as I'm concerned. What a powerful thing it would be if it had this option. I think that other solutions out there would have a hard time competing if it had this. Just my comments. I hear that you have been debating for a while, but personally I can't see why anyone would not want this option. Anyway this diatribe get nobody anywhere. I would just encourage you to add something. Preferably a gantt format.
 
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