Dermatology project

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Amelie

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Apr 12, 2012, 5:39:19 PM4/12/12
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Hello,

For my médical thesis, I would like to use mnemosyne to learn
dermatology, and test the effectiveness of the method on a group of
residents.

For my study I would have to have access to the information concerning
the users of my flashcards, to be able to know how they where used and
how it affects the scores of the residents.

Whom must I contact for more information and help?

Thanks a lot?

Amélie

Justin Hale

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Apr 12, 2012, 5:47:20 PM4/12/12
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I for one, am not entirely sure what you are asking for. Are you setting up a study of the effectiveness of Mnemosyne? Are you using test subjects yourself or both? How many subjects/residents would you need? Or are you just using Mnemosyne for your own personal benefit?


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Apr 12, 2012, 9:20:11 PM4/12/12
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Hi, I couldn't help noticing your post. I am a medical student. I was wondering if I could have hand in such a project.

Joseph
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Amelie

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Apr 14, 2012, 6:47:22 AM4/14/12
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Hello,

Well thanks a lot for your post. I'm a dermatology resident in France,
I have just started to work on this project, that I was planning to
test on french residents.

Of course, it would be interesting for me to have acces to other
students/residents around the world because it would increase the
number of residents tested and increase the statistical power of my
study.

Where do you come from, in what year are you? What are you planning on
specialising?

Amélie
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> Hi, I couldn't help noticing your post.  I am a medical student.  I was wondering if I could have hand in such a project.
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> I for one, am not entirely sure what you are asking for. Are you setting up
> a study of the effectiveness of Mnemosyne? Are you using test subjects
> yourself or both? How many subjects/residents would you need? Or are you
> just using Mnemosyne for your own personal benefit?
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> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Amelie <amelieb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hello,
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> > For my médical thesis, I would like to use mnemosyne to learn
> > dermatology, and test the effectiveness of the method on a group of
> > residents.
>
> > For my study I would have to have access to the information concerning
> > the users of my flashcards, to be able to know how they where used and
> > how it affects the scores of the residents.
>
> > Whom must I contact for more information and help?
>
> > Thanks a lot?
>
> > Amélie
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Amelie

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Apr 14, 2012, 7:01:43 AM4/14/12
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Hello thank you for your post,
 
In dermatology, you have to be able to differinciate a mole that looks benign from a mole that can be a melonoma.
The problem is even if every day every medical resident sees hundreds of moles, he does not have the immidiate response: is this mole benign or a melanoma since he cannot biopsy evey lesion he sees.
 
Therefore learning dermatology obliges residents to biopsy to many patients. and even if one week later they have the result of their biopsy they do not always remeber how the mole looked.
 
Mnemosyen for me is the perfect answer. Residents would be shown a photo and they would have to say is it suspect or is it benign and they would have the immidiate response to the question.
 
I would like to create the flashcards using a data base of photos that have been collected in my ward. I would then test their effectiveness via mnemosyne on a groupe of residents. The idea would be to create two groups. One that uses the software and one that doesn't.
 
Both groups would be tested before, after one year of utilisation and after two years.
 
I have just started on this project. I don't know yet how many residents I have to include to have powerful statical results, or how many questions I have to elaborate to have the most productive software.
Mabe you could help?
 
Of course Mneomsyne would be a co author if ever there is a publication.
 
I am working with my chief who is a known professor. There is NO commercial interest in this project. The benefit would be for residents and mabe science but not for me only.
 
Thanks alot for your post,
 
Amélie
by the way I am french

George Wade

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Apr 14, 2012, 12:20:14 PM4/14/12
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I'm going to make a shamelessly blasphemous suggestion:  your project is too important not to.

One set of flashcards could have notes on how the mole developed over time on the answer side.  As the students become familiar with each answer they could begin to delete parts of those notes, until after a few months only the simple 'Yes – melanoma.'  'No – other diagnosis.' was left.  It could be a three sided card with the full notes answer always available if you liked.  The answer could have a movie of progression of the mole whenever photos are available.

A powerful learning stage could be for residents to make (Some of...) their own cards.  Resident crowd sourcing of the 'Mole / melanoma deck.'

I shall keep all my other blasphemies at home, as:  in the end the Q & A cards will have become just like normal, pure, sparse Mnemosyne cards with no contamination of helpful associations.

Dermatologists at work do many tasks between examinations.  Another suggestion is to keep one trial deck and group of students working on a 'Mole or melanoma deck'  kept separate from their other studies;  then as time goes by and they are familiar with it, the deck can be merged with all the others being studied.  So an anatomy card is answered;  a biochemistry card;  a microbiology card, then a mole card:  seemingly at random.  This has been suggested as a particularly powerful memorisation modality.  However, some students could find it disruptive until they become familiar with the Mole deck, as an essential learning step.

I was a medical lab tech, cancer research;  got depressed in London's concrete jungle;  so went sailing for a few years and ended up teaching ESL in Japan.  Now I'm retired and irreligious.

George



On 14 Apr 2012, at 04:01, Amelie wrote:

Hello thank you for your post,
 
In dermatology, you have to be able to differentiate a mole that looks benign from a mole that can be a melonoma.
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