Transferring to mobile V 2.0

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solidjs

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Jun 26, 2012, 7:24:40 PM6/26/12
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I was searching the website and it seems as though there is no plugin
for me to take my cards from the laptop and transfer them to my droid
device. Is there another way for me to do this manually or is it
impossible right now to transfer cards to and from a mobile device?

Peter Bienstman

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Jun 27, 2012, 2:55:23 AM6/27/12
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Tim is currently working on releasing an updated Mnemogogo plugin.

Peter

Timothy Bourke

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Jun 27, 2012, 8:02:10 AM6/27/12
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I updated Android Market (and launchpad) on the weekend with Mnemododo
2.x. The updated plugin can be found here:
http://mnemosyne-proj.org/plugins/mnemogogo

I encourage 'power users' to upgrade now, and 'less confident users'
to wait for another week or two. This will give me a chance to further
identify and fix any problems.

An update to Mnemojojo will follow when I can find the time.

Tim.

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Juan Alonso

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Jun 27, 2012, 3:45:41 PM6/27/12
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A free alternative to mnemododo is anymemo. You can export cards from
mnemosyne to anymemo and back and it also allows editing and adding
new cards:

http://anymemo.org/index.php?page=home

However keep in mind that anymemo uses its own card review scheduling
algorithm which I find a bit inferior to Mnemosyne's.
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schinke...@googlemail.com

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Jul 2, 2012, 2:25:24 PM7/2/12
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Hi, I'm new to Mnemosyne and I'm trying right now to import my Anymemo cards to Mnemosyne without losing the learning progress, but I keep getting the following Error message:
Uncaught exception!
.... in accet .... in do_import.... in read_items_from_mnemosyne1_xml
KeyError:'Allgemein'

.txt file import without learing data works just fine. Any ideas? Is the .xml exchange format documented somewhere?
Thanks

(with 'Allgemein' being a category name)

Murray James Morrison

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Jul 2, 2012, 10:39:13 PM7/2/12
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Tim,

Been playing with Mnemododo for the last few days, it works great!

Will later versions allow you to switch between card types? I use different card types for different languages (one for reading Chinese, one for writing, one for English-language cards). It seems I can only send one set at a time to Mnemododo.

--murrayjames


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Timothy Bourke

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Jul 3, 2012, 12:53:18 AM7/3/12
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On Jul 3 at 10:39 +0800, Murray James Morrison wrote:
> Will later versions allow you to switch between card types? I use different
> card types for different languages (one for reading Chinese, one for writing,
> one for English-language cards). It seems I can only send one set at a time to
> Mnemododo.

Mnemogogo will export all activated cards, regardless of type. You
would need to activate all types before exporting. Perhaps it would be
useful to add an option to specify what gets exported?

Within Mnemododo, you can activate or deactivate cards based on their
tag. Mnemododo, however, only supports a single tag which is chosen
arbitrarily. I'm still thinking about how this might be improved and
(as always) suggestions are welcome.

Tim.

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Murray James Morrison

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Jul 3, 2012, 8:48:25 PM7/3/12
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Hi Tim,

Before, I didn't know it was possible to activate all card types at once! Very cool. A thing that could help, esp. for people who have lots of tags, is the addition of a Select All Tags/Select None option in Mnemododo.

When I activate tags in Mnemododo, the tag names are sorted strangely. This is not only the Chinese sorting problem I've mentioned before (a problem that continues in Mnemosyne 2, alas). English tag names are in seemingly random order, too. This makes it harder to track down individual tags to (de)select them.

A question about unseen cards: It seems Mnemododo exports up to 100 unseen cards. What determines where these cards are drawn from? I ask because I have several tags with unseen cards, but Mnemododo only seems to be taking from one of these.

--murrayjames

Timothy Bourke

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Jul 7, 2012, 11:06:33 PM7/7/12
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Hi murrayjames,

On Jul 4 at 08:48 +0800, Murray James Morrison wrote:
> Before, I didn't know it was possible to activate all card types at once! Very
> cool. A thing that could help, esp. for people who have lots of tags, is the
> addition of a Select All Tags/Select None option in Mnemododo.

Good idea. I've added it to my todo list.

> When I activate tags in Mnemododo, the tag names are sorted strangely. This is
> not only the Chinese sorting problem I've mentioned before (a problem that
> continues in Mnemosyne 2, alas). English tag names are in seemingly random
> order, too. This makes it harder to track down individual tags to (de)select
> them.

I'll fix this in the next version. They should be sorted
alphabetically.

> A question about unseen cards: It seems Mnemododo exports up to 100 unseen
> cards. What determines where these cards are drawn from? I ask because I have
> several tags with unseen cards, but Mnemododo only seems to be taking from one
> of these.

Mnemogogo exports ((num_days_to_export + 1) * num_non-memorised_in_hand)
unscheduled cards.

They are taken in order of:
to relearn, grade = 1 (already seen, but forgotten)
to relearn, grade = 0
new memorising, grade = 0 (never seen, but graded on creation)
new memorising, grade = 1
unseen (never seen)

The order within each category is determined by the underlying
database.

It may be better to shuffle in each category before taking the first n
cards. I will update Mnemogogo to do this when I find some time;
hopefully this week.

In the meantime, you could try increasing the number of days to
export. On my phone, Mnemododo easily handles an export of 1400 cards.
I would expect it to work well up to at least 2000. If you export too
many cards, Mnemododo may fail with out of memory errors, or the
loading of cards may become slow.

Tim.

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Peter Bienstman

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Jul 9, 2012, 7:07:29 AM7/9/12
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On Monday, 2 July 2012 20:25:24 UTC+2, schinke...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi, I'm new to Mnemosyne and I'm trying right now to import my Anymemo cards to Mnemosyne without losing the learning progress, but I keep getting the following Error message:
Uncaught exception!
.... in accet .... in do_import.... in read_items_from_mnemosyne1_xml
KeyError:'Allgemein'

Sorry for the delay, I was on holiday.

Feel free to mail me this xml file privately, so that I can take a look at it. However, if the xml file was generated by Anymemo, it's possible that it's a bug in Anymemo, not Mnemosyne.

Cheers,

Peter 

Timothy Bourke

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Aug 3, 2012, 7:51:08 AM8/3/12
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Hello murrayjames,

On Jul 4 at 08:48 +0800, Murray James Morrison wrote:
> Before, I didn't know it was possible to activate all card types at once! Very
> cool. A thing that could help, esp. for people who have lots of tags, is the
> addition of a Select All Tags/Select None option in Mnemododo.

I've added the ability to "long press" on categories to select or
unselect them all. It will be available in the next release (in a few
days after I have been able to fix one or two pressing bugs).

> When I activate tags in Mnemododo, the tag names are sorted strangely. This is
> not only the Chinese sorting problem I've mentioned before (a problem that
> continues in Mnemosyne 2, alas). English tag names are in seemingly random
> order, too. This makes it harder to track down individual tags to (de)select
> them.

I have just uploaded a new version (2.0.4) of Mnemogogo where this
problem is fixed: the categories are now sorted alphabetically on
export.

> A question about unseen cards: It seems Mnemododo exports up to 100 unseen
> cards. What determines where these cards are drawn from? I ask because I have
> several tags with unseen cards, but Mnemododo only seems to be taking from one
> of these.

The updated version of Mnemogogo tries to better shuffle the unseen
cards before exporting some of them. Could you please let me know
whether this gives improved results?

Tim.

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Murray James Morrison

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Aug 3, 2012, 1:54:55 PM8/3/12
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Timothy,

Cool! How do I get the new version? It is a new version of the computer plugin, or the Android app?

-murrayjames

Timothy Bourke

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Aug 3, 2012, 5:03:50 PM8/3/12
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On Aug 4 at 01:54 +0800, Murray James Morrison wrote:
> Cool! How do I get the new version? It is a new version of the computer plugin,
> or the Android app?

The new version of the plugin (Mnemogogo) fixes the mix of new cards
exported and sorts the categories. It can be downloaded from:
http://mnemosyne-proj.org/plugins/mnemogogo

A new version of the client (Mnemododo) provides long press support
for activating/deactivating all categories at once. It will be updated
in the Market in a few days (when some other problems are resolved).

Tim.

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