Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Feature Request: Order cards by tag

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Michael Campbell

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Oct 14, 2012, 9:44:50 AM10/14/12
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I have this same issue; what I do is create a number of saved "tag
sets" in the Ctrl-D dialog each of which captures a "context" of
cards.

It's not ideal as a workaround, but it does work.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:19 AM, <lu...@emailluke.com> wrote:
> I haven't seen this request anywhere - I've been using and recommending Mnemosyne for a couple years, and have 2600 cards now on a variety of subjects. My problem is that as I'm reviewing, context switches madly around with each card - I might review one vocabulary card, then one geography card, then a psychology card, then review one line from a quote.
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> In the Settings dropdown that says "Review memorized cards", can a third option be added? In addition to "most urgent first" and "in random order", "order by tag" or "order by primary tag" would be extremely useful. That way instead of taking an extra second with each card to determine the context, I could do all my Spanish review first, then all my "business contacts" review, etc.
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> I don't think it would be necessary to select a secondary sort mechanism - most urgent first would be a fine secondary sort mechanism. This would just save me a lot of time and effort in studying when you add up the time I'm spending each day to review 40-60 cards.
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> To the author: Thanks for considering the request, and thanks for making Mnemosyne - it's become truly indispensable to me!
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Peter Bienstman

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Oct 14, 2012, 10:34:49 AM10/14/12
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Actually, I don't consider it a workaround: it's the designed way to
deal with this :-)

Peter

Ayesha Nicole

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Oct 15, 2012, 5:13:22 PM10/15/12
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I am trying to understand what Michael described - because I am wondering if I should create separate databases for each 'subject/topic' or just create hierarchical tags - but then how do I review only one subject at a time? is it done through the 'browse cards' and selecting or de-selecting cards based on type and tags?  

Michael Campbell

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Oct 15, 2012, 7:45:37 PM10/15/12
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Just go to the Ctrl-D screen (De)activate cards.

Then pick a subset of your total tags you want to study with the checkboxes.

Then click "Save this set for later use", and name it. (You can use a
name you've already used if you like.)

You can do this as many times as you like, and doing so will mark JUST
those cards as "active". I have a few different sets for various
reasons. Some overlap, some don't. But that's totally up to you.
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Dan Schmidt

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Dec 25, 2012, 8:10:21 AM12/25/12
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One person's experience: I used to go through each of my (several dozen) categories in order by hand, every day, and also wished for a feature like this. Then I read a thread on this list in which it was claimed that the context-switching necessitated by shuffling all the cards together actually enhances memorization and recall, and thus is a desired feature. (I just looked for a couple minutes and couldn't find it, sorry.) I switched to just putting all my cards in a big pile and haven't really missed my old category-by-category method. Of course I can't really tell if it has actually helped or not.

On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:53:04 AM UTC-5, lu...@emailluke.com wrote:
Michael, if I'm reviewing 100 cards (a typical amount for a day) my brain is context switching perhaps 70 times because the categories appear randomly.  I'd much prefer, and it would be far more efficient, to context switch only 15 times because the cards are automatically grouped by subject.

Your suggestion (manually activate each category you want to study, every day) would require more than 15 context switches per session, b/c I would need to activate many categories individually just to see if there are cards to be studied that day.  Additionally, the switches would be relatively costly and distracting (open the Activate Cards dialog, think about which categories are worth activating individually, deactivate/activate next category).  That removes one of the most important benefits of Mnemosyne, which is that I don't have to think about which cards to study.  The program just shows me cards intelligently and I think about the content.

The elimination of continual context switches would allow me to focus on one subject at a time in the 15-20 minutes I'm studying, making learning far more efficient.  Manually activating each category to study anywhere from 3-20 cards there is not efficient for me, nor I suspect for anyone else.  This feature is useful if I want to focus on a single subject where I need to learn many cards at once, or if I want to cram, but in my opinion, is not useful in the daily scenario which we're discussing.

I'd really like to see this simple feature added!

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Michael Campbell

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Dec 25, 2012, 2:06:05 PM12/25/12
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I think you're focusing too much on context switching, as if it's a huge deal; it isn't.  I have also been led to believe that it's not necessarily even bad.  Efficiency in time in the short day to day term may lead to an INefficiency over the long term not remembering as well and having to go over the same things more often.

But, like I've said... everyone is different, so do what best fits *you*.


On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:53 AM, <lu...@emailluke.com> wrote:
Michael, if I'm reviewing 100 cards (a typical amount for a day) my brain is context switching perhaps 70 times because the categories appear randomly.  I'd much prefer, and it would be far more efficient, to context switch only 15 times because the cards are automatically grouped by subject.

Your suggestion (manually activate each category you want to study, every day) would require more than 15 context switches per session, b/c I would need to activate many categories individually just to see if there are cards to be studied that day.  Additionally, the switches would be relatively costly and distracting (open the Activate Cards dialog, think about which categories are worth activating individually, deactivate/activate next category).  That removes one of the most important benefits of Mnemosyne, which is that I don't have to think about which cards to study.  The program just shows me cards intelligently and I think about the content.

The elimination of continual context switches would allow me to focus on one subject at a time in the 15-20 minutes I'm studying, making learning far more efficient.  Manually activating each category to study anywhere from 3-20 cards there is not efficient for me, nor I suspect for anyone else.  This feature is useful if I want to focus on a single subject where I need to learn many cards at once, or if I want to cram, but in my opinion, is not useful in the daily scenario which we're discussing.

I'd really like to see this simple feature added!

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