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badgolferman

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Oct 21, 2017, 5:00:58 PM10/21/17
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One of the places I used to work at had a Chevy/Ford rivalry between
several of the fellows. They would argue back and forth constantly about
which was better and nitpick the other one over and over. Being a Toyota
guy I made fun of both of them whenever I felt like joining in.

It looks like the same thing is happening here. Android vs iOS, yet the
personal insults are far more prevalent. I’m not sure why there has to even
be a rivalry at all. People choose the phone they want for personal or
professional reasons. What possible benefit is there to constantly barrage
the other side? The two operating systems and their premium phones are at
the top of the heap and make some of the most desirable pocket computers
that also happen to make calls.

Sure, both sides make valid arguments, but really who are you trying to
convince? Neither side will budge and neither side will admit to having
inferior systems. If it’s just for fun then make it fun. Some of you are so
pissy at each other that I wonder if you truly hate each other. It’s really
not worth it.


Snit

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Oct 21, 2017, 5:32:09 PM10/21/17
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On 10/21/17, 2:00 PM, in article osgci9$mda$1...@dont-email.me, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the places I used to work at had a Chevy/Ford rivalry between
> several of the fellows. They would argue back and forth constantly about
> which was better and nitpick the other one over and over. Being a Toyota
> guy I made fun of both of them whenever I felt like joining in.
>
> It looks like the same thing is happening here. Android vs iOS, yet the
> personal insults are far more prevalent. I雋 not sure why there has to even
> be a rivalry at all. People choose the phone they want for personal or
> professional reasons. What possible benefit is there to constantly barrage
> the other side? The two operating systems and their premium phones are at
> the top of the heap and make some of the most desirable pocket computers
> that also happen to make calls.
>
> Sure, both sides make valid arguments, but really who are you trying to
> convince? Neither side will budge and neither side will admit to having
> inferior systems. If it零 just for fun then make it fun. Some of you are so
> pissy at each other that I wonder if you truly hate each other. It零 really
> not worth it.
>
>
Absolutely agreed. Same with the Windows / macOS / Linux debates. I do not
get the religious debates about those. Use what you like.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

Alan Browne

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Oct 21, 2017, 5:40:09 PM10/21/17
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On 2017-10-21 17:00, badgolferman wrote:
<s>

1. This is an iPhone group. Period.

2. A troll keeps dragging x-posted crap into this group and baits away.

3. Some rise to the bait. Again. And Again. And Again. As if
reasoning with an idiot accomplishes something.[1].



No need to discuss anything.

Detect troll. KF troll. Kill the thread if required.

[1] A definition of insanity: Repeating the same thing while expecting
different results.
- paraphrasing someone probably famous.

Davoud

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Oct 21, 2017, 9:41:22 PM10/21/17
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badgolferman:
> > ...Android vs iOS, yet the personal insults are far more prevalent....

Only if you choose to read, which you do. Like a moth to a flame.
That's why you're in my kill-file, seen only second-hand

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

Joerg Lorenz

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Oct 22, 2017, 1:08:37 AM10/22/17
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Am 21.10.17 um 23:40 schrieb Alan Browne:
Here what remeains in my killfile, always the same stupid persons:

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry
newton <ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't even
report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 11:21:49 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't
even report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 11:21:49 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't even report
the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 12:32:40 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't
even report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 12:32:40 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Update screw up am 21.10.17, 13:14:26 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Update screw up am 21.10.17, 13:14:26
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:18:54 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:18:54
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:23:09 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:23:09
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:24:00 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:24:00
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:24:47 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:24:47
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:26:11 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:26:11
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:28:07 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:28:07
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:29:17 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:29:17
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:32:52 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:32:52
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:35:15 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:35:15
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:37:48 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:37:48
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:39:35 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:39:35
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:43:49 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:43:49
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:45:13 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:45:13
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:46:33 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:46:33
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:48:35 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:48:35
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:51:26 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:51:26
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and Galaxy Note 8
in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:07:48 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and
Galaxy Note 8 in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:07:48 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and Galaxy Note 8
in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:23:29 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and
Galaxy Note 8 in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:23:29 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and Galaxy Note 8
in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:25:48 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and
Galaxy Note 8 in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:25:48 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and Galaxy Note 8
in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:30:56 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and
Galaxy Note 8 in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:30:56 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and Galaxy Note 8
in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:34:49 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and
Galaxy Note 8 in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:34:49 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and Galaxy Note 8
in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:39:18 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Pixel 2 dethrones iPhone 8 Plus and
Galaxy Note 8 in camera rankings am 21.10.17, 14:39:18 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate
fictional iOS functionality? am 21.10.17, 14:48:45 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Why do iOS apologists incessantly
fabricate fictional iOS functionality? am 21.10.17, 14:48:45 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Third-party researches yet again find security
vulnerabilities in iPhones (Apple is secretly allowing apps to silently
record your screen) am 21.10.17, 14:50:49 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Third-party researches yet again find
security vulnerabilities in iPhones (Apple is secretly allowing apps to
silently record your screen) am 21.10.17, 14:50:49 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Third-party researches yet again find security
vulnerabilities in iPhones (Apple is secretly allowing apps to silently
record your screen) am 21.10.17, 14:52:53 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Third-party researches yet again find
security vulnerabilities in iPhones (Apple is secretly allowing apps to
silently record your screen) am 21.10.17, 14:52:53 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Third-party researches yet again find security
vulnerabilities in iPhones (Apple is secretly allowing apps to silently
record your screen) am 21.10.17, 14:53:59 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Third-party researches yet again find
security vulnerabilities in iPhones (Apple is secretly allowing apps to
silently record your screen) am 21.10.17, 14:53:59 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Third-party researches yet again find security
vulnerabilities in iPhones (Apple is secretly allowing apps to silently
record your screen) am 21.10.17, 14:58:34 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Third-party researches yet again find
security vulnerabilities in iPhones (Apple is secretly allowing apps to
silently record your screen) am 21.10.17, 14:58:34 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - How to mount the entire mobile device file system
on Linux am 21.10.17, 15:23:10 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - How to mount the entire mobile device
file system on Linux am 21.10.17, 15:23:10 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht nospam
<nos...@nospam.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't even
report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 07:04:24 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Whitelist E-Mailadressen" auf die Nachricht
dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't
even report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 08:49:49 angewendet
Ausführung gestoppt

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't even report
the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 11:21:49 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't
even report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 11:21:49 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't even report
the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 12:32:40 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't
even report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 12:32:40 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate
fictional iOS functionality? am 21.10.17, 14:48:45 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:28] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Why do iOS apologists incessantly
fabricate fictional iOS functionality? am 21.10.17, 14:48:45 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht nospam
<nos...@nospam.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't even
report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 07:04:24 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Whitelist E-Mailadressen" auf die Nachricht
dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't
even report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 08:49:49 angewendet
Ausführung gestoppt

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't even report
the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 11:21:49 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't
even report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 11:21:49 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Substitute for Osmand/CoPilot? am 21.10.17,
12:01:51 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Substitute for Osmand/CoPilot? am
21.10.17, 12:01:51 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - Substitute for Osmand/CoPilot? am 21.10.17,
12:07:39 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - Substitute for Osmand/CoPilot? am
21.10.17, 12:07:39 angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't even report
the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 12:32:40 angewendet Unterthema
ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - It's a fact current iOS devices can't
even report the correct cell tower ID am 21.10.17, 12:32:40 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:18:54 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:18:54
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:23:09 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:23:09
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:24:00 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:24:00
angewendet Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Killfilter" auf die Nachricht harry newton
<ha...@is.invalid> - 11.0.2 is out! am 21.10.17, 13:24:47 angewendet
Unterthema ignoriert

[21.10.17, 15:46:29] Filter "Blacklist Deppen-Server" auf die Nachricht
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He who is badgolferman said on Sat, 21 Oct 2017 21:00:57 -0000 (UTC):

What *none* of you show you can *comprehend* is that *you* think it's an
even comparison between Apple & not-Apple because you own what amounts to a
dumb blonde who is stunningly gorgeous but so dumb as to defy comparison.

There is *no comparison* possible when *functionality* is the topic.
1. iOS hardware is about the same as Android hardware
2. But Apple severely *limits* what iOS hardware can do
3. Hence, iOS functionality will *always* be far less than other platforms

To wit:
a. There is no functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android, and,
b. We can easily list tons of functionality on Android not on iOS

Those are facts.
The fact is, there is no comparison.

The comparison is only in your mind.

You, being iOS apologists all, *think* there is a comparison, but witness
the fact that Snit *fabricated* functionality that nospam and Jolly Roger
high fived and Snit trolled that *completely imaginary functionality* for
three weeks (I counted 60 posts from Snit trolling that one imagainary IOS
functionality).

Here's Snit's own video which if you haven't listened, you have no business
with your "chevy versus ford" comparison because it's "car versus bicycle"
when it comes to *functionality*.
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>

harry newton

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He who is Joerg Lorenz said on Sun, 22 Oct 2017 07:08:35 +0200:

> A troll keeps dragging x-posted crap into this group and baits away.

In the related thread:
Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate fictional iOS functionality?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/K_yBNZiPFYo/yekUPvIXAwAJ>

We discussed with "dorayme" a critical observation explaining that it isn't
that you iOS apologists (badgolferman, Snit, Jolly Roger, nospam,
BKOnRamp, Jeorg Lorenz, etc.) are actually as utterly incomprehsibly dumb
as what you write makes you appear to be.

Her argument is that people choose to *emotionally defend* that which isn't
defensible on fact.

That explains, for example, why Snit trolled this fact-free video over 60
times just last month proclaiming in *every* thread he could that iOS has
this (utterly fabricated) imaginary functionality:
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>

Most of you iOS apologists gleefully high-fived his trolls, saying "that
will show him" where even you, Davoud, had a conversation with Snit when
Snit proclaimed that he had my back against the wall with the "facts" of
his video!

For weeks, not one of you iOS apologists ever even *looked* at the facts!
<http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/wifi_sweetspots.jpg>

When I spoke with dorayme, my enigma is that nobody can be as dumb as you
iOS apologists appear to be. Nobody. You just *can't* be *that* dumb.

And, yet ... the facts show ... you are!

So this whole "chevy vs ford" idiocy is just another one of your factless
emotional tirades (where you have the gaul to call "me" a troll, when you
trolled that video of imaginary functionality until I decided to just post
that single picture - because I knew from the very first post that Snit was
trolling imaginary functionality).

The real question is *nothing* like "ford versus chevy".
The real question is:
Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate fictional iOS functionality?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/K_yBNZiPFYo/yekUPvIXAwAJ>

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Hey Newton, I am not an iOS apologist. I can find fault with anything and
have done so numerous times here regarding iOS and the iPhone. I have an
iPhone because that is what my company gave me and I try to make the best
of it. Actually I was quite grateful to get the iPhone because I had a
Blackberry which was a piece of crap.

Snit

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On 10/28/17, 5:50 AM, in article ot1uf5$1ts7$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry
newton" <ha...@is.invalid> wrote:

...
> There is *no comparison* possible when *functionality* is the topic.
> 1. iOS hardware is about the same as Android hardware

Can you support this?

> 2. But Apple severely *limits* what iOS hardware can do
> 3. Hence, iOS functionality will *always* be far less than other platforms
>
> To wit:
> a. There is no functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android,

Can you support this? For example, can you show (on a non-rooted device):

* Record screen AND voice AND device sounds without jail breaking.
Also record desktop screen and sound with the time coordinated.

* Drag and drop content

* Search contacts, settings, mail, etc. all at once.

* Be secure (97% of mobile malware is for Android)

* 3D Touch

* Apple Pencil or comparable

* Family sharing

* Full encryption

* Local face recognition (better privacy)

* Secure Wi-Fi password sharing

* Portrait lighting

* Animojis

* Facial recognition that cannot be "beat" with a photo

Some of those might exist for Android... but I did not find any. Can you?

Maybe you can with one or two. Maybe not. But in the end you have one and
only one point: you prefer Android... and to feel OK with that choice you
need to not only put down iOS but users of iOS.

So you are deeply insecure about your choices -- so much you lash out with
insults, lies, attacks, and spend your time scavenging the web for iOS
weaknesses. Is there anything else you want to share?

...
> <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>

Ah, in that video I show:

* Record screen AND voice AND device sounds without jail breaking.
Also record desktop screen and sound with the time coordinated.

And you have yet to do so. To even get the first line of it you had to use a
rooted device... and even with the rooted device you have yet to show doing
the full thing.

Interesting... you fail over and over and over.

harry newton

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He who is badgolferman said on Sat, 28 Oct 2017 17:23:52 -0000 (UTC):

> Hey Newton, I am not an iOS apologist. I can find fault with anything and
> have done so numerous times here regarding iOS and the iPhone. I have an
> iPhone because that is what my company gave me and I try to make the best
> of it. Actually I was quite grateful to get the iPhone because I had a
> Blackberry which was a piece of crap.

We all had a blackberry and we all had RAZR's before that.
You can't compare them to a "modern" phone, right?
It's not Ford versus Chevy; it's driving versus hitchhiking, right?

Same with iOS versus Android.

Everything about iOS is *primitive* from the ancient literally
non-functional user interface (which Apple Marketing *hails* as "familiar"
(heh heh) to the fact that you can't do the *simplest* of things on iOS.

I speak only facts, so you know everything is backed up.

For a *modern* launcher, for example, iOS can't compete with even the
*free* launcher I have on my phone, which itself is five years old.

What you have to understand is that, when it comes to *app functionality*,
it's not Chevy versus Ford, but Car versus Walking, Android to iOS.

In terms of sheer beauty - Apple mobile devices win *hands down*.
They're absolutely gorgeous.

Gorgeous like a dumb blonde bombshell is gorgeous.
Fantastic to hold. Fantastic to touch. Fantastic to fawn over.

But just *look* at the most watched web page in all of Apple's history:
Here's what I wrote in the iPhone X thread today...
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/B9kmzikVKdA/H_3RcE4HBgAJ>

The page about the iPhone X is all stupendous blonde bombshell looks but
almost no functionality under the pretty (and very fragile) skin!
I wanted to see what Apple said about that functionality at this page:
<https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/>
* The *first* thing they talk about in the dumb blonde, is *looks*
"It's all screen."
* Then they say the display "fills the hand and dazzles the eyes"
(just like any dumb but stupendously gorgeous blonde would)
* Then they proclaim beauty "all the way to the elegantly rounded corners"
(OK. We get it. It's a ridiculously gorgeous dumb-as-nails blonde!)
* Then the go on to "the first OLED screen that rises to iPhone standards"
(Huh? Their first iPhone screen that actually meets their own standards?)
* Then they talk about the "tiny space" for the camera (which isn't
functionality since all intelligent people already know iPhones are
traditionally on the bottom of the top-ten in mobile phone camera
functionality, and only recently temporarily in the bottom of the top five)
* And then back to the looks, this time the glass back (which we all know
is ridiculously expensive once it breaks - and it *will* break)
* Then they talk about "familiar gesture's" of the primitive iOS interface,
which, the only claim they can make is that it's "familiar" because it was
designed at the dawn of smartphones, so it's decidedly primitive compared
to a modern launcher.
* Then they talk about face id, which if you wanted it, might be the first
functionality that they speak about in this, the most marketed page in
Appkle's web site.
* But then they fall back into the mundane of "taking selfies" (whoopie
doo), and Animoji(TM) to (and I quote) "reveal your inner pig".
* Then they talk about camera hardware, never once saying that they are
generally in the bottom of the top ten in camera *functionality* and only
recently in the bottom of the top five.
* Then they start discussing *potential* functionality by "introducing the
A11 Bionic" and "efficiency cores" and "performance cores", none of which
do they translate into performance via the competition.
* And then it's back to "face id".
* And then, get this, a "custom battery design" (as if every smartphone
doesn't already have a custom-battery design.
* Then the GPU but all they said is that it's faster than what sucks.
* And then back to the A11 "Bionic powers" (why do they repeat so much)
* And then back to the "wireless charging", none of which is a big deal.
* And lastly, they conclude with pod crap, siri crap, and that horridly
ancient primitive iOS interface that every user is "familiar" with (duh).

Notice there's not one thing about *functionality* of the modem whose
performance was throttled by Apple "so that it has a parity with the slower
Intel modem" (meanwhile, the Android phones using the same modem are *not*
throttled - so they'll work better well into the future since Android
phones with removable batteries, in general, far outlast phones sans
removable batteries ... where mine is circa 2012 and still has *more* app
functionality than any iPhone X could ever hope to have.)

E.g., it can load any modern app launcher ... which is a *huge* difference
right there, and I can list *tons* of things Android does that iOS can't
hope to do (e.g., something as simple as graphing WiFi signal strength over
time is *impossible* on iOS for heaven's sake, or automatic phone
recording, or putting app icons where you want them, etc.).

--
iPhone X is a pretty but very dumb stupendously gorgeous blond bombshell.

Snit

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On 10/28/17, 11:43 AM, in article ot2j4l$133o$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry
newton" <ha...@is.invalid> wrote:

> I speak only facts, so you know everything is backed up.

This is a direct lie given the lies of yours I have quoted. But let us stick
to tech and not about YOU YOU YOU and your lies. You lie a lot. That is a
given. Whatever.

With Android, can you show these features?

* Record screen AND voice AND device sounds without jail breaking.
Also record desktop screen and sound with the time coordinated.

* Drag and drop content

* Search contacts, settings, mail, etc. all at once.

* Be secure (97% of mobile malware is for Android)

* 3D Touch

* Apple Pencil or comparable

* Family sharing

* Full encryption

* Local face recognition (better privacy)

* Secure Wi-Fi password sharing

* Portrait lighting

* Animojis

* Facial recognition that cannot be "beat" with a photo

Some of those might exist for Android... but I did not find any. Can you?



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