le lisxra cu fanva fo zo'oi.Ceqli.

[Jonathan Jones]

The Lojban translation of the Ceqli through Pictures comic is finally finished!

You can find a link to the comic via the Texts in Lojban page on the tiki in the "Comics" section, or you can go straight to the page itself: le lisxra cu fanva fo zo'oi.Ceqli.

A quick note- my tiki-editing skills are, well, crap, and the picture is pretty large, so even on my 1920*1080 screen with the browser in full screen, the comic goes off the edge and there's both horizontal and vertical scrollbars.

If anyone knows how to make the tiki resize the picture to fit inside the browser window, please fix this.

Hope you enjoy it.

I should probably note that I do not consider this an entry level learning tool. I don't consider it a learning at all, really- in either language. I find it's primarily useful as a test of ability or as a reminder of the grammar etc.

Especially in the latter panels, you kind of have to /know/ the language already - or at the very least, the vocabulary- to be able to understand it.

The above is my opinion, of course. It may be that it's a great learning tool and I'm completely wrong. However, it is because of my opinion that I made the decision I did regarding the visual presentation (, such as using an all-caps font, for instance).

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

[Jonathan Jones]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Jonathan Jones <eye...@gmail.com> wrote:

If anyone knows how to make the tiki resize the picture to fit inside the browser window, please fix this.

And by that, I mean /relative/ resizing. so that if the size of the browser window changes, the picture still takes up the same percentage of the window. (So, assuming the sidebar takes up 200 pixels width and the window is 1000 pixels wide, the picture would be 800 pixels wide. If the window becomes 500 pixels wide, assuming the sidebar doesn't change size, the picture would then be 300 pixels wide.)

The main reason for my asking someone to do this is because everyone's screen has different resolutions, different aspect ratios, and different browser window dimensions. That way, if someone with say a 640*480 monitor views the page, [s]he'll still see a full comic row without needing to scroll sideways.

[Kevin Reid]

On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:55, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Jonathan Jones <eye...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If anyone knows how to make the tiki resize the picture to fit inside the browser window, please fix this.
>>
> And by that, I mean /relative/ resizing. so that if the size of the browser window changes, the picture still takes up the same percentage of the window. (So, assuming the sidebar takes up 200 pixels width and the window is 1000 pixels wide, the picture would be 800 pixels wide. If the window becomes 500 pixels wide, assuming the sidebar doesn't change size, the picture would then be 300 pixels wide.)

The proper way to do this in HTML is to use the CSS width property, like so:

<img src="..." style="width: 100%;">

(That 100% is related to the width of the current region of the page, not the window.) The height automatically scales to match as long as you leave it unspecified.

HOWEVER...

1. I tried to get Tiki to embed that and failed; while its image syntax claims to support a percentage, the resulting HTML has a fixed size and it appears to be something like "percentage of original image size", not CSS percentage.

2. By mucking with the HTML, I found that the wiki has a fixed-width layout (which your original image was simply forcibly spilling out of due to being large); this auto-resizing will simply not have any effect but making the image fit _the wiki theme_. In order to have the image content adapt to the window size, the wiki theme would have to be edited to itself be adaptable.

My recommendation would be to either construct a separate site designed for the comics, or link to the bare image without any page around it; modern browsers will scale the image and allow the user to zoom in and out.

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Kevin Reid <http://switchb.org/kpreid/>

[gleki]

Please, split it back to individual images!

[Jonathan Jones]

No. In order for us to be allowed to even have the comic, Rex requires us to display certain information along with it, which is currently at the bottom of the image. If any of the panels appear at any time without the accompanying information, that places us in violation of our agreement. The only way to be even reasonably sure that doesn't happen is to embed the information into the image.

There is no way I am going to embed that into 72 individual panels. For one thing, that's a crap-ton of work, and for another, having that on every single panel would look horrible.

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For now, I just resized the image so it fits within the tiki theme, and made it clickable so you can view it, as you say, bare.