Technical details that would suit a profile of Lojban

[Muhammad Nael]

All right. Things like Lojban's Shannon entropy rate, etc... Where are they?

[james riley]

My guess would be that they don't exist. Though if it's an interesting
challenge generating these data then you might be able to excite
people in the list into calculating them. If it's not exciting then
you might be stuck calculating them yourself.

[Muhammad Nael]

This was a simple question... Where can one ask simple (as close to that) questions without opening a thread that says 'discussion'? I'm pretty sure much of what's in here only needs simple answers and sometimes booleans! So, where is this place?

[Pierre Abbat]

AFAIK no one knows the answer. Entropy rate is not a design criterion of
Lojban, and given the wide range of proficiencies and lack of native
speakers, it may not even be well defined. What other data do you want?

Pierre

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[Luke Bergen]

IRC?

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Muhammad Nael <muhamm...@gmail.com> wrote:

This was a simple question... Where can one ask simple (as close to that) questions without opening a thread that says 'discussion'? I'm pretty sure much of what's in here only needs simple answers and sometimes booleans! So, where is this place?

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[M. Nael]

I'm indeed sorry if I sounded 'smug synonym'... I never intended to...

Well, not much else... But tests like Shannon entropy fit a profile of a language like Lojban.

On another hand, IRC who? Is there a site like 'Yahoo Answers' that would allow a circle of the knowledgeable of the language to reply to anybody's questions without much of the big-discussion theme that Ggroups create?

Best Regards

[Luke Bergen]

well, if you're looking for something that is less "discussiony" than gGroups but a bit more formal than IRC... Sounds like what shapado was designed for.  http://lojban.shapado.com

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[Robin Lee Powell]

A place where you can ask a question about the Shannon entropy of a
*language*, a concept that regularily generates scholarly research
papers, without generating a discussion? I would very much hope
that no such place exists; that would be a sad and boring place.

In this particular case, no-one knows the answer because no-one has
studied it. We're all unpaid volunteers. Feel free to do it
yourself; http://corpus.lojban.org/ would be a good starting point.

-Robin

[Muhammad Nael]

Shapado looks almost perfect! I'll use it more now that I've free time to work on Lojban and I'll a lot to ask.

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A place where you can ask a question about the Shannon entropy of a

*language*, a concept that regularily generates scholarly research

papers, without generating a discussion?  I would very much hope

that no such place exists; that would be a sad and boring place.

I'm sure it would be. On the other hand, I started this topic, and I'd very much appreciate if I wasn't the one to maintain it if such a discussion begins... I'd rather a real scientist (or as close to that) to have his/her name on the topic. And I'm no scientist.

Also, I just realized that however fluent you (not thee) might be in Lojban, it'll need people a bit more used to it to do Shannon entropy...

Have a great day!

[.alyn.post.]

Does someone have a ready description to hand of what features we
have/want in jbovlaste that aren't available in extra-community work
like Shapado?

Stated another way, what *technical* barriers exist to using a tool
maintained outside this community to store and interact with a
Lojban dictionary (, glosser, and flashcard program)?

-Alan

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