Turtles Everywhere

[Claire Kultgen]

Today we managed to turtle 2 of our boats at the same time into relatively cold water. We tried to get to the masts in time before they sank but no luck; it happened too fast. Obviously this appears like it's going to be an issue, and we'd like to prevent it if possible. Has anyone tried a Bob or Mast float? Any other ideas?

And is everyone is just using their spinnaker halyards to recover? Any other tips? 4 of us leaning off one didn't get it to budge at all.

Aside from that, great day.

Claire

[Jeremy Lyman]

Check out the post here:https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!searchin/johnson-18-one-design/capsize/johnson-18-one-design/Q0LBBN67wqs/6kl4HC8AC6wJ

Mostly I started using myself as the mast float if I get get there quickly enough.  But once the mast is down, moving your weight towards the bow will help get the boat to slowly roll back over.  It takes a bit of patience, which can be pretty difficult in cold water.

Claire

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[Steve Troute]

When I purchased my '18 from Bill Willmon, he had a beefy "righting" line rigged at the port chainplate lifting point with a heavy duty carabiner at one end and a loop big enough to step in at the other. It resides at the bottom of the spin bag when not in (God forbid) use. This is an elegant solution to righting a capsize prior to a turtle scenario, and was, I think, an outgrowth of breaking a centerboard while trying to right the boat. Since I haven't managed to turtle 178 yet (touch wood), I haven't tested it in a turtle, but in theory if thrown over the hull to the opposite side and stepped into it should create enough leverage to right the boat. Bill may have some pics, or I'll try to drag myself into the 21st century and upload some.

 

Opening Day yesterday..80 degrees - 20 kts

 

As is often noted here: " Lucky you live Hawai'i"

 

Aloha

Steve

[derek mckesson]

When we turtled 157 back when we owned her, the only way I was able to right her was being dragged by a pontoon boat,(BIG one), while on the cb and with tow line around it, finally got going fast enough to pull it up, sold it next week!
 

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:31:50 -0700
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Subject: Re: [johnson-18] Turtles Everywhere
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[Theo McDonald]

Well maybe that explains some of the repairs on the Centerboard. I have 157 now, and I had a very hard time righting the boat alone. I used the line attached to a trapeze point on the mast and another boat to pull on that. We'll be looking into the Hobie float for sure.

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[Mga...@aol.com]

The simplest way to right a J18, if you have another boat, is to go under it and take the spinnaker halyard out of the blocks and the hole in the deck.  It then goes most of the way to the top of the mast.  Take it outside the stays and use it to pull the top of the mast to the top of the water.  Pick up the mast head and throw the boat upright.

Bill W

[Mga...@aol.com]

A righting line is a catamaran concept.  It allows you to pull up on the far side of the boat while leaning out as far as possible with your crew right next to you pulling on the line.  The weight of two large guys pulling from the extreme edge of the hull will right a J18.  Just standing in the loop, as Steve mentions, will gain you nothing, so stand on the hull and hold onto the loop while you lean back out as far as you can.  Righting is slow, so don't give up.  Before doing this be sure your main and jib or spinnaker are uncleated and the bow is into the wind.

A large diameter soft line that will be easy on your hands is best for a righting line.

Bill W

[Mga...@aol.com]

I realized that the instructions I gave for righting a J18 with the Spinnaker halyard were not right.  go under the boat and uncleat the sp halyard. pull the spinnaker back up and stow it. Recleat the halyard and remove the other end of the halyard from the head of the spinnaker.  Use that end to pull the head of the mast up to the surface.  Be careful not to drop that loose end.  It would be hard to get it again.