Re: [hexayurt] Smallest Folded Hexayurt design footprint for transport?

[Alejandro Moreno]

Last year I carried my H13 on the top of my Volvo wagon in a plywood tarp sandwich (they were 4x8 panels).  Is your roof not available?  

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Gibbon <nutra...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have built 3 hexayurts, all of which easily handled the playa (except for that rainstorm 2 years ago, when the inside got flooded), but none of which survived the shifting sands of warehouse storage in Oakland.

So, I am looking to build another for this year. I am addicted to living in the Hexayurt on the playa. I am driving from Seattle in a Honda Fit. The Fit carries an incredible amount of gear. But 4x8 sheets are out of the question, and I don't think that sort of car would safely haul a trailer, even a light one.

So, is there a Hexayurt design that folds down to a very small foortprint? I would be willing to risk a thinner foam panel, whereas in years past I have used at least 1.5" if not 2 or 3". The 3" Hexayurt is hilarious fun, by the way. I had it because Ashby Lumber were out of the other widths. That thing was truly a bomb shelter.

Also, I do recall a rumor of Hexayurt rental, premade units that are transported to and from the playa. Is that a possibility? I would rather rent an H-yurt than an RV any day.

Thanks,
Gibbon

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[Gibbon]

Roof is available. I think it would require a roof rack, and would severely impair the aerodynamics of that car, but worth a thought. I haven't been on the list for a year, is an h13 one of the smaller versions?

[Alejandro Moreno]

A roof rack would certainly help, especially for tying the whole thing down.  I'm not sure how else you could tie it down without a roof rack, barring running the rope through the windows, which once everything is tied, would prevent you from opening the doors of whichever windows you ran the rope through.  Kind of a bitch on a long trip.  If you have 4 doors, you could just run the rope through the rear 2, but it wouldn't be as effective a tie-down job because ideally you would tie the sandwich down evenly, with the rope more distributed, instead of just around the middle because that's where the only 2 windows are to run the rope through.  

The H13 is identical to the H12 basically, except by adding a 13th panel, you create a taller door, which also gives you more headspace inside the yurt.  More headspace also means more cooling space, so theoretically the H13 is not as potentially stuffy as the H12 is.  Here's the appropedia page in case you're curious: http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_H13

If you (or anyone) would like to see mine from last year (the build) and how I had it set up at Burning Man (from inside as well as out), here is a link to a photo album:  https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150297076217393.333665.554617392&type=3&l=b0898e0e81

Good luck! 

-Alejandro

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[Phil Dirt]

Last year I carried my stretch hexayurt on the roof rack of my truck without a plywood sandwich. I just made gussets from galvanized sheet metal (like what's used for flashing on roofs) to distribute the pressure from my tie down straps. The gussets are simply cut about 12"x12" and folded in the middle. They spread the pressure when you crank down on the straps.

A lot of people here are talking about rope, which is very inefficient for tie downs on roof loads. You have to use trucker's hitches and adjust them frequently, which probably means finding something to stand on to reach the anchor loop. I use cam straps, which have a 1600 lb load rating and can be adjusted easily with one hand. I suggest you get 16' lengths minimum, and at least two to tie down front and back.You can order them from NRS here: http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product_list.asp?deptid=1188

On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:42:43 AM UTC-7, Alejandro wrote:

[Lucas González]

H13 is in appropedia.org thru the search box
Hope that helps, can't copy links easily here sorry
Lucas

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[Alejandro Moreno]

I would have to totally agree with Phil even though I've never used cam straps. Rope sucks.  It worked because we really cranked down on the rope, tightly, with good knots, plus a roof rack.  Otherwise, from how user friendly they sound, I would SO rather have used cam straps.  Rope was pretty much a nightmare especially at the end of BM, so tired, SO dirty, and getting dark at night.  F'ing hated that part. And your hands get sore from cranking down knots, especially if you suck at them like I do.

The H13 appropedia link was provided in an earlier email today, just in case though here it is again: http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_H13

-Alejandro

[Percival du Chat Gris]

Greetings,

There are portable roof racks, places like Pep Boys sell them, and ways of roping things down that I teach, that are fairly simple, and take rope-stretch into account, but I always recommend ratcheting straps, both because they are wider and flatter (thus distributing your load more) and they can also be used between your halo and your stakes, for more security when camping.

In terms of the plywood on either side, pliatech (I believe) has some interesting couch, chair, and bed designs, based around cuts to same, so when I traveled that way last, the plywood was all part of my setup.

Percy