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NAG
I have reported a website where the registrant and domain hosting is
Google Inc. App Engine - Appspot.com
This particular website is publishing unauthorised contents about my
business.
This contents comes on the first and second page of google when I type
my business name.
They are asking fees to remove contents. I made the payment via their
service section but they are asking for more money to remove all the
contents, It is against all applicable laws and Google Inc.
regulations.
They still haven’t performed their service. They have offered fake
services. IT'S EXTORTION.
I tried many times to resolve the situation with the website owner
but they never respond to my request.
I have reported the website to Google many times and I still do not
understant why Google haven't done any investigation and stay silence
regarding this important matter and also it is very dispointing that
Google support this kind of website.
I have follow every Google steps to remove those contents but when I
ask help, Google goes silence. Why??????
I need Google asistance to remove those contents and invetigate this
criminal website.
I hope this time I will have someone from Google App Engine to help
with this matter.
Brandon Wirtz
B. Don't ever pay a first party to remove bad things.
C. Unless the claims are fraudulent there is nothing that can be done.
D. I'm not a lawyer, but I have ones that take care of these kinds of things
Brandon Wirtz
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Brandon Wirtz
It’s a weekend, did you expect them to respond already?
You didn’t point to what they are doing wrong. Looks like they just show Alexa data, I don’t think you have much of a case for a take down.
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Jeff Schnitzer
>
> I posted this message so someone from Google appspot will respond.
You will not get a useful response from Google here; their lawyers do
not read this list. It's a community support forum where a number of
Google techies happen to hang out. Not lawyers.
If you believe that someone is hosting a TOS violation on appengine
(see http://code.google.com/appengine/terms.html), then you should
report it per these instructions:
http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/general.html#violation
However, you will have to be a lot more clear about what exactly the
problem is than you have described here. I really can't figure out
what you're saying. It sounds like you gave money to some sort of
scammer, which is incredibly stupid.
Jeff
Brandon Wirtz
(only slightly nicer, and I'm gaining on your code :-) )
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Jeff Schnitzer
> I like you Jeff. You remind me of me, only Slightly nicer with better code.
> (only slightly nicer, and I'm gaining on your code :-) )
But I don't look nearly as good dressed as a mermaid :-)
Jeff
Robert Kluin
> Hi,
>
> I have reported a website where the registrant and domain hosting is
> Google Inc. App Engine - Appspot.com
>
> This particular website is publishing unauthorised contents about my
> business.
>
> This contents comes on the first and second page of google when I type
> my business name.
>
> They are asking fees to remove contents. I made the payment via their
> service section but they are asking for more money to remove all the
> contents, It is against all applicable laws and Google Inc.
> regulations.
I have some copper plated zinc engravings of Abraham Lincoln for sale
for the low price of $19.99.
>
> They still haven’t performed their service. They have offered fake
> services. IT'S EXTORTION.
>
> I tried many times to resolve the situation with the website owner
> but they never respond to my request.
>
> I have reported the website to Google many times and I still do not
> understant why Google haven't done any investigation and stay silence
> regarding this important matter and also it is very dispointing that
> Google support this kind of website.
>
> I have follow every Google steps to remove those contents but when I
> ask help, Google goes silence. Why??????
>
> I need Google asistance to remove those contents and invetigate this
> criminal website.
>
> I hope this time I will have someone from Google App Engine to help
> with this matter.
>
>
NAG
NAG
Ikai Lan (Google)
That's exactly right a scammer who uses Google App Engine.
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Brandon Wirtz
You get 0 views per day? Maybe I can interest you in an affordable Search Engine Marketing campaign, to drive traffic and help you build valuable brand recognition. As an AdCenter Gold partner we can help you to create a campaign that will drive valuable traffic to your site from Bing and Yahoo Search.
From: google-a...@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-a...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ikai Lan (Google)
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Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Report
I'm not sure what the violation is. Here's my domain:
Ikai Lan (Google)
Brandon Wirtz
I think that is SEO… Unless you know a trick to get Google to run my ads for free based on high quality content… In which case we have to talk J
Maybe NAG has a point telling people you get 0 visitors could hurt those ad deals and sponsorship opportunities… but I think that would be tough to prove.
PS
Putting your site behind CDNinaBox.com reduced the page load time from 1.8s to 923ms J
NAG
Brandon Wirtz
I am not a Google Employee. I can not speak for Google. That also affords me the Ability to say what Google Can’t.
Google would have your back if there was a Copyright complaint. You would file a DMCA and they would take it seriously.
You on the other hand have a Criminal matter. And one that currently is your word against theirs. You need to lawyer up. File a complaint against the web site owner. That will get you a court order that you can provide Google To release the information of the person you paid the money to if that is required, and a take down notice that Google will (typically) honor.
Without these things you are just a loud obnoxious person who stupidly paid money when they shouldn’t have. Using a method they shouldn’t have. If you had used PayPal or another Escrow service you could say, “HEY that bastard didn’t do what they said they would” and your money would come back to you.
That didn’t happen. And that is an issue that you now have to deal with court and lawyers.
Should I feel bad for you? Maybe. But you came in to this forum screaming with Red underlined and bold text and wild allegations. IF you had come in polite with a coherent story, I’d have said “Here are the things you need to do, sorry about your ordeal, Google can’t help you until you have the following things”.
Instead. Currently I’m rooting for the other guy. He may be sleaze, but at least he isn’t obnoxious.
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:45 PM
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So Ikai, you are telling me that www.showsiteinfo.appspot.com hasn't breach anything. I think they did.
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Brandon Wirtz
Practical. Not nice. It was going to take me more time to write a rule that removed him from my email threads than it would to shut him up.
Plus I figure since Google can’t win no matter what they say, I’d say something they couldn’t and hopefully free them up to fix bugs so 2.7 can be production, and random latency issues can go away J
I’m not nice. I just want my shit worked on instead of having Google guys distracted. Don’t let this fool you I’m still evil. That’s why me and Google do so much business together.
NAG
Brandon Wirtz
And Ikai responded. Told you what you needed to do. And I responded and told you even more of what you needed to do, because google won’t tell you to lawyer up and get a court order.
I realize you are French, so that makes you more rude by default. But I gave you the information you needed to resolve this. I did so in a much nicer tone than you.
The forum has been pretty nice to you considering how rude you are, and that this is a technical support forum and your issue isn’t technical in nature.
Now send Ikai a nice letter saying “Thanks Ikai, I appreciate the information you provided, I’ll follow up through the channels you linked to.” Then go get a court order, you can even do that in your local country. Submit it through the Legal Contact for Google in your local region. And the site will come down. Or the Judge will decide not to do anything with the site and you can sue the individual for your money. Either way you will have resolution.
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Jeff Schnitzer
Stop now. Nobody here can help you. And thanks to your attitude, we
wouldn't even if we could. All you have done here is convince a large
audience that you have absolutely no idea how the internet works.
Take your legal issues to a forum where someone actually gives a damn.
Jeff
NAG
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Robert Kluin
to remove the content that details what they said they would do to an
attorney; they will help you get this all sorted out. Maybe you can
even sue them to recover the attorney fees.
I was actually trying to make exactly the point that Brandon later
explained pretty clearly. I hoped my point would be made with humor
-- know what you're getting and have a contract that clearly states
this. You got duped, learn from it.
Robert
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 06:38, NAG <aber...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
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> Do you think you are funny. why have did you add this stupit comment?????
Simon Knott
Simon Knott
NAG
Andrin von Rechenberg
this is somehow entertaining. It reminds me of kinder garden,
where one kid embarrassingly fucked up and is now standing in the corner shouting for mommy/google and
refuses the help of the other kids.
So they start making fun of him.
Lol, how cruel kids are :)
I know my mom always told me not to do that, but it was still funny.
Sorry mom.
Cheers,
My nostalgic ego
No comments, I'm only replying the same way they are talking.
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