Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey
Efi Merdler-Kravitz
flock-to-public-cloud-in-2012/) an interesting article on the adoption
of cloud.
An interesting question was about which public cloud services
developers will use and app engine wasn't mentioned at all,
Two points I'm interested to hear your thoughts on:
1. It always seems that app engine is conceived as a toy cloud
platform, *I know it's not*, but why the press treats it like that ?
2. what's your experience with your colleagues, do you hear numbers
like the ones mentioned on the article ?
Brandon Wirtz
who speaks Tech Press. So they don't get any love.
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Ricardo Bánffy
Engine doesn't do PHP. For them, things like Gondor, Heroku and
Djangozoom don't register.
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Brandon Wirtz
would have been very high on my list. I'd have said to someone like me.
"here is $300k" take a team and build us a wordpress killer.
And GAE would have instantly been "the CMS that doesn't crash" and bloggers
would talk about if GAE was better than PHP, and all the script kiddies
would jump on board, and Voila instant credibility.
Do you know how many times I have heard (and Google must have as well) But
it doesn't run MySQL.
To which I responded CMS WTF you say "Gimme Record" and you are done.
There's no SQL in CMS's you could to that in tables or flat files.
But because you "can't" run a blog on it, it must suck.
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all of the templates, CSS files and so on (of course, with some
guarded optimism - I've seen under WP's hood) to gain some time and
give some familiar look and feel for users.
Not a bad idea.
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custom PHP. (all of mine do)
But converting some of the most popular wouldn't be too hard.
www.xyhd.tv and www.jeffprobst.com are Wordpress running behind GAE :-) I
wouldn't even have to do a rewrite if it was "closed source" we just
wouldn't tell anyone that there were Apache servers in the background. :-)
Not a bad idea.
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Brandon Wirtz
It is a good start. I don’t think it meets the requirements of an enterprise class CMS, or a mass deploy CMS.
I was envisioning a multi-tenant “deploy via Apps For Domains” app that had templates via upload, and was extendable via plugins.
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Hi Brandon, I have created just the GAE-CMS you've described, minus the budget of course :-) And it took a lot longer than a weekend to develop. Please have a try and join our project to help us make it the best of the best. Thanks!
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Olivier Truemat
This is a very very very good topic.
--> Is GAE a toy ? My conclusion after 4 months of intensive work with it is that it is clearly not a toy. I have been able to develop an application with 93,000 lines of code in Java which delivers the functional and non-functional requirements. The application is currently in user acceptance test and the end-users are very happy about the product and they are impressed by the response time.
--> Does Google make enough publicity ? Clearly not and that could lead to problems in the future with the competition become better and better.
My recommendations would be along the following lines :
I. Increase awareness
--> Interview senior management of Google explaining the long-term commitment and roadmap of the product. Google I/O could be a very good opportunity
--> Post on the front pag of GAE an updated list of web sites using GAE together with the industry they support (e.g. Marketing, Games, Finance, ...)
--> Send regularly reports about number of developers / number of applications
II. Architecture support
--> Provide architecture / data diagrams of existing applications using GAE. This relates to a problem I had figuring out how to model entity-relationships + question I had on how to structure the application.
III. Improve datastore backup / restore functionalities
--> A lot of work has been done recently on the backup / restore functionalities but I still miss the following :
--> Backup / restore by namespace. Without this, it is very difficult to deploy a multi-tenant application which is one of the key advantages of the cloud platforms. Currently, backup / restore by namespace requires developer coding but this should become a commodity
--> Backup / restore for blobstore also by namespace
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