3.5 JANUARY 2019 DEVELOPMENT BUILD

[Mark Liversedge]

https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/releases/tag/v3.5-DEV1901

Includes:

• Banister Model for performance prediction
• Power Index metric and performance test detection
• Daum Realtime Device Support
• Map Chart Improvements incl. Google user API key
• CP chart updates incl. Power Profile and Percentile rankings

I did a tutorial on Banister here: https://vimeo.com/311757866

if you're interested in the new Power Index metric and test detection read here: http://markliversedge.blogspot.com/2019/01/performance-tests-and-power-index.html

As ever post issues with the build here.

Mark

[José Luis García Pallero]

Hello:

I've obtained a segmentation fault. The content of goldencheetah.log is

OpenData disabled, secret not defined.
Auto configuration failed
140105754993344:error:25066067:DSO support routines:DLFCN_LOAD:could not load the shared library:dso_dlfcn.c:185:filename(libssl_conf.so): libssl_conf.so: no se puede abrir el fichero del objeto compartido: No existe el fichero o el directorio
140105754993344:error:25070067:DSO support routines:DSO_load:could not load the shared library:dso_lib.c:244:
140105754993344:error:0E07506E:configuration file routines:MODULE_LOAD_DSO:error loading dso:conf_mod.c:285:module=ssl_conf, path=ssl_conf
140105754993344:error:0E076071:configuration file routines:MODULE_RUN:unknown module name:conf_mod.c:222:module=ssl_conf

I'm using Debian Sid and I've installed libssl1.0.2 and libssl1.1. With the prior GC build there were no problems, but in this case I obtain this errors. The problem can be solved at least in Debian via

export OPENSSL_CONF=/etc/ssl/

[Hennadiy Verkh]

Hey Mark,

thanks for preparing a new release.

I noticed a change in a algorithm of finding best performances

Github: https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/blob/993eec89467e6bf9fd65c997e5e89f85c3a040c0/src/Metrics/Estimator.cpp#L253

New code

// lets extract the best performance of the week first.

// only care about performances between 3-20 minutes.

Performance bestperformance(end,0,0,0);

for (int t=240; t<week.length() && t<3600; t++) {

Previously it was:

for (int t=180; t<week.length() && t<1200; t++) {

You changed the window from 3-20 minutes to 4-60, but the comment still says 3-20.

Maybe it is some debugging leftover? 

I'm asking, because I can remember your video about sensible performance tests durations and you were talking about optimal max duration around 20 minutes.

Best

Gena

[David BG]

Hi Mark, 

I can't mount the image on Mac OSX 10.11.6, I get this error "sistema de archivos que no pueden montarse" (file system that can't be mounted)

I tried download from Safari and Chrome with same result on both.

Thanks!

El sábado, 19 de enero de 2019, 16:20:33 (UTC+1), Mark Liversedge escribió:

[Gui Terro]

Dear Mark,

Thank you to the GC Team, and yourself for this tremendous work.

I Downloaded the last January 2019 version.

I cannot find the ""Banister (Skiba) " Chart
where can I download it.

Thank you

Best regards

Gui

[RB]

Hi Gui,

 

You can find the chart when you are in the Trends view then menu View->Download Chart then it is for me on the first page.

Kind Regards,

RB 

[José Luis García Pallero]

I can see this new build still needs Python 3.6. Is it planned to migrate to Python 3.7?

El sábado, 19 de enero de 2019, 16:20:33 (UTC+1), Mark Liversedge escribió:

[Gui Terro]

Dear RB

Thanks it works.

Best Regards

Gui

[Mark Liversedge]

We could do that. Perhaps at the same time we shift to packaging up python and R with the install.

[pepe lisbon]

Hi Mark, please and a "Banister chart for running" and allow a user defined stress metric  (like Allan Olesen approach to RSS  ( 0.03 * Duration * IF^3.5; ))  as impulse metric.

[Mark Liversedge]

On Sunday, 20 January 2019 17:57:33 UTC, pepe lisbon wrote:

Hi Mark, please and a "Banister chart for running" and allow a user defined stress metric  (like Allan Olesen approach to RSS  ( 0.03 * Duration * IF^3.5; ))  as impulse metric.

Ale is working on multisport -- it needs a different performance measure.

If you just want a different impulse metric thats already done, it works in exactly the same way as with the PMC curves.

Mark

[Mark Liversedge]

On Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:41:25 UTC, Hennadiy Verkh wrote:

You changed the window from 3-20 minutes to 4-60, but the comment still says 3-20.

Maybe it is some debugging leftover? 

I'm asking, because I can remember your video about sensible performance tests durations and you were talking about optimal max duration around 20 minutes.

Oh for sure the power index, performance and banisters stuff is likely to change.

The window start changed from 3 to 4 minutes because the resulting CP estimates were skewed for athletes with a high W' so this was to get rid of that without switching to a duration where maximal efforts became too infrequent.

The window end changed from 20 to 60 minutes because it probably makes little difference BUT long distance TTers often have best efforts at longer durations. I do feel that for tri and long form TTers this makes sense and for everyone else it doesn't make any difference at all (since their shorter efforts will always be closer to maximal than longer),

The comment/code mismatch is just a mistake, one I make far too often sadly.

Good spot !

Mark

[David BG]

Has anyone been able to install the development build in Mac?

I keep trying to install and I have this error

[JustinL]

I successfully installed it on macOS High Sierra 10.13. Have you checked if it's sandboxed? "System Preferences"->"Security & Privacy"

[Daniel Brogan]

I'm still seeing the old "This page can't load Google Maps correctly" error message. Do I need to reset something?

[Mark Liversedge]

If you want to use Google Maps you need to get an API key and put it in the chart settings.

[David BG]

I don't know what the problem might be. I've tried to download it from different browsers and also to download other images to check. Works fine except this one

I check security & privacy settings and it is Ok (install from anywhere)

[Paul Greenberg]

Thanks to you and the team again. GC is indispensable for training. 

Packing everything up in one install would be great for those of us less adept, computerwise!

[TJDunnigan]

Yes, successfully downloaded, mounted and installed on Mac 10.14.2.

[John Heffner]

I also can't mount the disk image on MacOS 10.11.  Was the image created with APFS (support introduced in 10.12)?

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I'm away at the moment but will check later this week, it was created using the default settings in diskutil (without encryption).

Mark

[Stefan Rothbauer]

Just downloaded and installed v3.5-DEV1901

As always: great work!

The Banister Diagram is really awesome. It automatically captures and for the first time validates my feelings regarding my progression over the last years.

For the FPCA: the chart did not work, I get errors, but am unable to resolve /debug these.

The required libraries are installed, also the files are downloaded, but somehow in the loop sampling the MMP values I get zeros?!

while(n < 91 ){

df1$y[n]<-df$power[x[n]]

n <- n + 1

}

Anyone already has successfully downloaded the FPCA Diagram (from trends view / Cloud DB)?

Did it work on a Windows 7 environment?

Would be glad to hear if others have the same issue, how they resolved it, or if it worked, what may be the things I am missing in my environment.

Thanks again,

Stefan

[Maarten]

I can' seem to find the Banister Diagram? I'm on Mojave 10.14, V3.5-DEV1901

Am I missing something?

Maarten

[Nigel Van de Velde]

Great Job!

I am using the Linux Appimage build

Things that are working again:

- Downloading of charts from the database

- Fix elevation errors seems to work more consistently again (or I might just have been lucky the last few days)

Found some small bug using the Map. Zoom to interval doesn't work any longer.

As I haven't used the new functions yet, I can't comment on those for the moment.

Kind regards,

Nigel

[Stefan Rothbauer]

Hi Maarten,

go to trends view and download it from the Cloud DB.

Best,

Stefan

[Poncho]

I think this only works with the official .AppImage binaries. Linux
builds for distributions as well as custom builds lack the Cloud DB
access token.

Attached is the Banister.gchart file. You can drag'n'drop it into the
trends view to import the chart.

[Will]

The Bannister Model for performance prediction looks really cool, I'm looking forward to playing with it. One question, is there an analogous concept to TSB in this model?

Thanks,
Will

[Mark Liversedge]

On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:25:35 UTC, Will wrote:

The Bannister Model for performance prediction looks really cool, I'm looking forward to playing with it.  One question, is there an analogous concept to TSB in this model?

I touched on this in the video tutorial - TSB is conceptually NTE i.e. a measure of accumulated fatigue.

TSB is acutally analagous to the performance curve, which has no conceptual equivalence in the PMC

i.e.

PMC: TSB = CTL - ATL

Banister: Performance = PTE - NTE

Mark

[Tony]

Now I am confused. I thought NTE was conceptually similar to CTL?

All working well here. I have even recreated the Bannister chart my hand without a problem.

[Stefan Rothbauer]

Hi Mark,

on the Dev1901 on windows 7 64 bit when I go to the map view, it does not zoom to the correct region.

Even if I double click on "whole activity" or an intervall the map does not zoom to the corresponding section (which it did in previous dev builds)

Also dropbox synchronisation does not work (while GoogleDrive does). Later I will try to set it up again, to see if this fixes the problem. In previous dev builds I did not have to re-setup dropbox synchronisation.

Best regards,

[Mark Liversedge]

On Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:52:18 UTC, Tony wrote:

Now I am confused. I thought NTE was conceptually similar to CTL?

All working well here. I have even recreated the Bannister chart my hand without a problem.

Watch the first half of the tutorial and it explains the banister model.

Mark

[Mark Liversedge]

On Thursday, 24 January 2019 07:19:14 UTC, Stefan Rothbauer wrote:

Hi Mark,

on the Dev1901 on windows 7 64 bit when I go to the map view, it does not zoom to the correct region.

Even if I double click on "whole activity" or an intervall the map does not zoom to the corresponding section (which it did in previous dev builds)

I think this must have been broken in the refactoring of the map.

Also dropbox synchronisation does not work (while GoogleDrive does). Later I will try to set it up again, to see if this fixes the problem. In previous dev builds I did not have to re-setup dropbox synchronisation.

This must be related to the windows build because that code hasn't changed. Wil check.

Mark

[Stefan Rothbauer]

Also dropbox synchronisation does not work (while GoogleDrive does). Later I will try to set it up again, to see if this fixes the problem. In previous dev builds I did not have to re-setup dropbox synchronisation.

This must be related to the windows build because that code hasn't changed. Wil check.

Mark

Dropbox Synchronisation did work just now (without setting it up again). 

So I do not know what caused the dropbox synchronisation to fail today in the morning.

Since it works again, don´t worry, sorry for posting this.

[Ale Martinez]

El jueves, 24 de enero de 2019, 4:19:14 (UTC-3), Stefan Rothbauer escribió:

Hi Mark,

on the Dev1901 on windows 7 64 bit when I go to the map view, it does not zoom to the correct region.

Even if I double click on "whole activity" or an intervall the map does not zoom to the corresponding section (which it did in previous dev builds)

I've found this tends to happen the first time the map chart is activated for the selected activity and changing the selected activity when the map is active fixes it.

[Will]

Thanks Mark, that is more clear now. I did watch the video. From looking at the curves, though, I think TSB and Performance are analogous but not homologous. The Performance chart is more a cumulative total of stress balance in an attempt to quantify cumulative response, whereas TSB is the current day's deficit and is used more to make sure you are not currently digging too deep (<-25 for more than a day or two).

Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

Thanks,
Will

[Peter K]

Hi Mark,

I tried the 3.5-DEV1901 build and it works fine. However, i did notice the following:

- I enabled the "Play sound before new lap" feature in Training preferences (BTW i love that feature). While in "train mode", the first time i get to a lap marker, GC freezes for about 5-10 seconds. Then it plays the sound and keeps working fine. The data is also recorded correctly. Not a major issue but i though i bring it to your attention.

- When i have 2 athletes open it 2 tabs, the search feature is always returning results for the first one.

Again, not major issues. Thanks again for your hard work. GC is the best!!!

Peter

[Mark Liversedge]

On Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:01:41 UTC, Will wrote:

Thanks Mark, that is more clear now.  I did watch the video.  From looking at the curves, though, I think TSB and Performance are analogous but not homologous.  The Performance chart is more a cumulative total of stress balance in an attempt to quantify cumulative response, whereas TSB is the current day's deficit and is used more to make sure you are not currently digging too deep (<-25 for more than a day or two).

Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

On the whole the main difference between PMC and Banister are the *dimensions* of the CTL/ATL and PTE/NTE curves.

Conceptually NTE makes more sense than TSB since it is directly related to accumulated load. For me, TSB is chasing shadows that aren't there. It double counts for adaptation - scaling of the impulse (TSS scales with fitness) vs longterm-shortterm load (what I did recently vs accumulated fitness).

I can't help thinking that once the dimensions were lost in the EWMA calculations for CTL and ATL Coggan didn't really know what to do and just made some shit up. I mean honestly, why did he even need to "invent" something when the existing solution is already there in PTE and NTE? The same applies for FTP (and latterly FRC) and CP/W'. Most of his shit is just a rehash of someone else's idea to add a trademark and make money.

That is of course entirely separate from the goal of Banister to fit to actual performance in order to predict future adaptations.

Mark

[sylwek s]

Hi David, did you managed to install the Dev build in Mac? I get the same error like you and don't know how to proceed???

Thanks

[Will]

Oh I don't disagree with you, it's just a change in perspective that will take some getting used to. I'll need to play with it some more. I really like it, thanks for all the work putting it in.

Will

[David BG]

Hi, I use a friend's computer to mount the dmg, and I upload the .app and download in my computer. This way works fine for me.

This is the link with the .app compressed Link wetransfer

[UlysseUlysse]

Hello Mark
Thank you for this new version, great job

Installation on debian of GoldenCheetah_v3.5_DEV1901_Linux_64bit.AppImage

Improvement: much more stable, significantly less untimely closing or screen lock, but, at times, still a few stops of the program, without a warning message, without understanding why !?

This is a first observation ... Have a nice day

[Ugo]

Hi there,

I also having the same problem. any suggestions? I have OS X 10.11.6.

Thanks,

Ugo

[jim smyth]

Installs fine for me on OSX 10.14.2.  OTOH - what is broken for me is Ant+:

Debug: antlog path: "/var/folders/s5/4gs_01hd0j3d9pbzd1hngx_00000gn/T/antlog.raw"
Debug: Found a Garmin USB2 ANT+ stick: "/dev/bus/usb/020/021"
Debug: ANT device reset was not acknowledged !...try again
Debug: ANT device reset was not acknowledged !...try again
Debug: ANT device reset was not acknowledged !...try again
Debug: ANT device reset was not acknowledged !...try again
Debug: ANT+ reset not acknowledged, closing..

I can confirm that when using 3.4 (stable) I can pair with my devices, but 3.5 does not work.  I tried the following.

1. Remove all pairings (GC3.5)

2. Attempt to pair HRM (output in logfile as above)

3. stop GC3.5

4. start GC3.4, pair the HRM successfully.

5. stop GC3.4

6. start GC3.5

7. Look at paired devices.  HRM is displayed as a paired device but no values and output to logfile as above

j

[UlysseUlysse]

Hello

I noticed that GC quits unexpectedly when I try to resize the left column (see picture), and sometimes Gc quits unexpectedly when I hover over this column, (without error message)

[UlysseUlysse]

Hello

The proof by the video: follow the youtube link and see the program close, without error message…

https://youtu.be/qslRmxCHlQ8

[José Luis García Pallero]

El mié., 30 ene. 2019 a las 16:57, UlysseUlysse
(<vande...@atelieraquarelle.org>) escribió:

>
> Hello
>
> The proof by the video: follow the youtube link and see the program close, without error message…
>
>
> https://youtu.be/qslRmxCHlQ8

Hello:

You can inspect the file goldencheetah.log in .goldencheetah in order
to see the errors. I had a similar problem, which I could solve as I
explained here:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/golden-cheetah-users/j3xqlELi2Gc/6aBBAwoSFAAJ

>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 2:57:23 PM UTC+1, UlysseUlysse wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>> I noticed that GC quits unexpectedly when I try to resize the left column (see picture), and sometimes Gc quits unexpectedly when I hover over this column, (without error message)
>>
>>
>>

>> Le samedi 26 janvier 2019 10:32:25 UTC+1, UlysseUlysse a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Mark
>>> Thank you for this new version, great job
>>>
>>> Installation on debian of GoldenCheetah_v3.5_DEV1901_Linux_64bit.AppImage
>>>
>>> Improvement: much more stable, significantly less untimely closing or screen lock, but, at times, still a few stops of the program, without a warning message, without understanding why !?
>>>
>>> This is a first observation ... Have a nice day
>>> On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 4:20:33 PM UTC+1, Mark Liversedge wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/releases/tag/v3.5-DEV1901
>>>>
>>>> Includes:
>>>>
>>>> Banister Model for performance prediction
>>>> Power Index metric and performance test detection
>>>> Daum Realtime Device Support
>>>> Map Chart Improvements incl. Google user API key
>>>> CP chart updates incl. Power Profile and Percentile rankings
>>>>
>>>> I did a tutorial on Banister here: https://vimeo.com/311757866
>>>> if you're interested in the new Power Index metric and test detection read here: http://markliversedge.blogspot.com/2019/01/performance-tests-and-power-index.html
>>>>
>>>> As ever post issues with the build here.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
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[UlysseUlysse]

Hello Josée

I try this solution but it does not work for me

thanks again

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[UlysseUlysse]

On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 6:13:31 PM UTC+1, UlysseUlysse wrote:

Hello José

[jim smyth]

Replying to my own post....

After a look at the history of src/ANT/ANT.cpp I found a commit for 3.5 (d5eb58e88699024add7656cbf57dfb715e56da91) which *seems* like it is causing my issue - some error checking on the USB device which doesn't exist on 3.4.   Perhaps it is specific to my USB adaptor, or even the way this adaptor behaves on OSX.  It's been a long enough time since I looked at c++ so if I am very wrong, be gentle :-)  You guys are doing a fantastic job so nothing but admiration from me.

thanks

jim

[Thomas Heller]

I'm using the v3.5-DEV1901 build on a german Windows 10 64-bit.

In the overview window (Trends: Zusammenfassung) the label of the Z7 Powerzone is somehow wrong, see the attached screenshot.

Probably has to do with the Umlaut in the word 'Neuromusculär'.

[Jörn R.]

Translation File looks fine - anyway I removed the "Umlaut". Since these are just defaults, you can change it yourself in the Power Zone Definition (Single Click Opens Text to be overwritten). With this you can fix your layout. Also change it in the defaults.

[Juanjo Díaz]

Hi,

My Summary tab has gone blank in one of my athletes (not the other one). I have tried to add a new Summay tab but the new one is again blank. I have also tried to reinstall de programm without success, everything still the same.

Any ideas?

Otherwise the program seems to be working fine, and the rest of the tabs and graphics work ok.

Thank you very much! 

[Ale Martinez]

El lunes, 11 de febrero de 2019, 11:39:08 (UTC-3), Juanjo Díaz escribió:

Hi,

My Summary tab has gone blank in one of my athletes (not the other one). I have tried to add a new Summay tab but the new one is again blank. I have also tried to reinstall de programm without success, everything still the same.

Any ideas?

See https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/wiki/FAQ-MOST-COMMON-QUESTIONS-OF-ALL#why-are-my-charts-blank-or-data-is-missing 

[Greg Leg]

Hi there

Since installing v4.5-DEV1901 I can't download charts from the cloud (Technical Problem with Cloud DB).

Using Win10

Thanks, for the great work! I love GC...

Am Samstag, 19. Januar 2019 16:20:33 UTC+1 schrieb Mark Liversedge:

[Jörn R.]

Hi Greg,

can you please post a screen shot of the message / more details. Just tested the access and downloaded multiple charts - no issues. (Win10, DEV1901).

Thanks.

Joern

[Greg Leg]

Hi Joern

Thanks for the quick answer. Find a screenshot of the message and some details attached. Need more details (sorry, I'm a noob)

Thanks
Greg

[Greg Leg]

[Jörn R.]

Hi Greg,

from a technical perspective the error message is shown in case there is no proper HTTP response code was found. Which is very weird since this was just a "should never happen" check in the code before handling the real HTTP responses.

Can you please check if there are any proxies / firewall settings or something else interfering your internet connection. CloudDB is definetely up and has no problems.

Thanks

Joern

[Thomas Heller]

Jörn,

I tried already to disable the windows firewall, also
tried on an hotspot opened from my android phone using
mobile data - no change in both cases.

Tomorrow I can try on another PC and another network when I'm at work.

Thomas

Am 12.02.2019 um 17:05 schrieb Jörn R.:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> there were no changes in this area since quite some time. And I see
> quite some traffic on CloudDB (requests) Also CloudDB had no changes.
> The access token is "baked" into the code. Which means that if someone
> builds his own version
> he cannot connect to CloudDB (without knowing the secrets at build time).
>
> All official builds are created with CloudDB support. And I am using
> Windows10/64Bit latest version as well - without any problems.
>
> Can you please check on a different network/different PC if the problem
> exists as well?
>
> There were also no recent changes on the Server side. 
>
> Best regards.
> Joern
>
>
>
> Am Di., 12. Feb. 2019 um 16:42 Uhr schrieb Thomas Heller
> <the...@ctypes.org <mailto:the...@ctypes.org>>:

>
> Am 12.02.2019 um 16:00 schrieb Jörn R.:
> > Hi Greg,
> >

> > from a technical perspective the error message is shown in case
> there is
> > no proper HTTP response code was found. Which is very weird since this
> > was just a "should never happen" check in the code before handling the
> > real HTTP responses.
> > Can you please check if there are any proxies / firewall settings or
> > something else interfering your internet connection. CloudDB is
> > definetely up and has no problems.
>

> I have exactly the same problem, with the same GC build on Windows
> 10 64bit.
> Has it something to do with a "missing Cloud DB access token"?
> I have found something in this message:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/golden-cheetah-users/Cloud$20db%7Csort:date/golden-cheetah-users/j3xqlELi2Gc/cfPwQhTAFQAJ
>

[Jörn R.]

Hi Thomas and all who have problems to Authorize external Services.

we had the problem some weeks ago the the guy found a solution (working for him - and probably for you as well).

His problem related to some corrupt Windows System File(s) most likely caused by problems during the 1809 Upgrade.

See problem and answer here: https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/issues/2944

He scanned his system and fixed the corrupt files - after that the problem in GoldenCheetah was resolved:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/929833/use-the-system-file-checker-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system

IMHO definitely worth a try - 1809 caused a lot of problems during upgrade. I have recently managed to upgrade my system and am running GC without problem on it.

Hope that fixes your issues.

Joern

[Jörn R.]

Hi Greg,

we have new findings on the problem - please check the post here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/golden-cheetah-users/j3xqlELi2Gc/QvBVCa5ZHAAJ

Thanks.

Joern

Am Dienstag, 12. Februar 2019 09:17:26 UTC+1 schrieb Greg Leg:

[Greg Leg]

Hi Joern

Thanks. After running the System file checker tool it says: Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.
I turned off the firewall, just to check. Without any firewall, I can download charts.

Thanks for your help
Greg

[m0414...@gmail.com]

Hi,
Yeah, when I ran SFC it also said no issues found, but after both GC worked properly and Windows 10 dark theme worked properly.
So it's fixing something.
Cheers

[Greg Leg]

After remooving GC and reinstalling it, chart download is working fine again. Thanks for all the help and inputs
Cheers