Attention Flex developers..... Turn towards HTML5, ExtJS, Sencha, JQuery etc..

[naresh s]

Hi Guys,

I'm a flex developer. I've been working for past 1 year on this
platform. I've observered (you may also) a sharp declining of Flex Job
oppurtunities after HTML5 has succesfully emerged. Not only this, even
Adobe has also decided to move working with HTML5 in a official
statement.

Further more, Flex can't be powerful in Tab arena where IOS and
Android OS work well with HTML5 and other mobile frameworks like
Sencha and ExtJS etc.,

So, should we take our turn towards HTML5, ExtJS, Sencha, JQuery and
any mobile and web frameworks etc...?
Hope your experiences and views will help me and also frehers who want
to see the career in Flex platform.


Regargs,
Naresh

[mahesh blue]

HTML5 is going to launch on 2020 so no worries for flex developer upto 2020

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[Jitendra Jain]

Flex is now Apache project. U don't know the Apache Foundation. It is the foundation that delivered first http server. Moreover the most popular frameworks and compilation tools in java community are from Apache. Ant, Maven, JMeter, Struts, Apache Tomcat etc.

so don't underestimate the apache. Adobe has thought more than us before making the comments and handing his most of revenue generating framework to apache.

Thanks,
Jitendra Jain

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Mohit Kumar <mhtk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Naresh,

I have 6+ year exp in Flash/Flex Technology and currently I am working in a reputed company.You believe that HTML5,Sencha, and ,jQuery etc... are the future but I want to say that remember the time of silver light, Everybody was saying that Silver light will finish the flex market but what was the result..  every body know.

You say Flex is over now, tell me which project of Apache is Failure.Now Flex going to Apache.

Flex Technology have fastest way of data transfer (for example AMF).

of-course HTML5 is rich in comparison with html4 but not Flex.It's Enterprise (Everything in one Place).

So Continue your learning with new technology but Flash Tech is not over.It Has its own market value.

Thanks

Mohit  

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:16 PM, naresh s <naresh...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[amit shrestha]

Hi guys,
  i am flex developer as well as Extjs developer.Definately future is HTML5, no doubt on that,, but for now when i compare Extjs and Flex for development of rich and big UI applications, i personally found in general, productivity of average developers are much higher when building same thing in flex rather than sencha and also the learning curve of the technology in case of lfex is much higher.. do'nt may be it could be due to programming paradim change flex is OO and JS is not OO and from the beginning of development we are used to OO.Also could be strong IDE and debugger the flex has as compared to javascript. Main disadvantage with JS is it is not purely object oriented.. and it is some thing not compiled insted intrepreted at run time so i think JS is always going to miss the prevelage of having strong debugger as we have in flex or java or .net which will make debugging thing always a nightmare of average developer.

[Shyam]

Hi  All,

Adobe’s view of Flex and its commitments to Flex in the future

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html

Shyam

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:16 PM, naresh s <naresh...@gmail.com> wrote:

[nishantkyal]

Hi,

I agree with the original post that Flex developers should be on their toes looking at other technologies, the most obvious choice being UI technologies like HTML5, JQuery etc.

Couple of reasons:

• Flex is winding down and even though it'll wind down even faster with upcoming Windows 8 which will not support browser plugins and increasing dominance of iOS. Even Adobe is pulling out of mobile browser space and will have to do so when major OS stop supporting third-party browser plugins. Sad but true.
  
• Flex wouldn't die tomorrow, but you'll see less and less money put into it which means lesser exciting work and more maintenance on projects which are waiting to be converted into other technologies. Obviously these will not be a hell lot and will also not pay as much.
• Being moved over to Apache doesn't mean it's gonna perform as good as other projects. If anything that went to apache became a rockstar, every project will start on apache. Apache is just an opensource foundation, it doesn't drive adoption and success.

My advice to everybody (including me) is to start looking at other technologies and trying to be better programmers with more emphasis on algorithms, UI models, code structuring and just being better programmers. That's your insurance against the any tech you're working on fading out.

Nishant

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[Saurabh Narula]

Agree to most of your views Nishtant, specifically the fact that we need to be good programmers at the end of the day. Being stubborn (oh yes stubborn!) & disciplined to extensbility, scalability of the app architecture, good code writing practices is something that will stand you apart in the crowd. Strict usability practices/guidelines is another area (if you are serious about UI) that you should focus on. But I still dont buy in the whole propaganda of 'fire in the mountain .. run run run', but then its not all hunky dory as well.

Adobe's priorities have changed, they are a company and its their own right to invest in what they think would be most valuable and good investment for them. People still do not realize that when flash for mobile devices (and thus flex in a way) was not dumped, there were still alternatives, and you could still develop apps without using flex, weighing the odds of the options available (at that time or today) is still very subjective and depends on use cases. Flex is still a choice, but the future of technology/platform is uncertain. I would (and everyone should) see this as an opportunity to apply all that you have learnt with flex in other frameworks. extJS do makes sense. Think about working with SVG, canvas directly in the browser. HTML5 capabilities are not there yet, and undoubtedly flex is ahead, but flex clearly is not the future, HTML5 is.  

Thanks

Saurabh

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[thiyaga rajan]

Hi Friends,


              I ve heared that cts stopped using flex and they move on to html 5...

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[Naresh Kumar]

Hi,

Adobe's official FAQs over FlexVsHTML5:


http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html



On 27-03-2012 13:39, thiyaga rajan wrote:

Hi Friends,


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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Saurabh Narula <reachsaur...@gmail.com> wrote:

Agree to most of your views Nishtant, specifically the fact that we need to be good programmers at the end of the day. Being stubborn (oh yes stubborn!) & disciplined to extensbility, scalability of the app architecture, good code writing practices is something that will stand you apart in the crowd. Strict usability practices/guidelines is another area (if you are serious about UI) that you should focus on. But I still dont buy in the whole�propaganda�of 'fire in the mountain .. run run run', but then its not all hunky dory as well.

Adobe's priorities have changed, they are a company and its their own right to invest in what they think would be most valuable and good investment for them. People still do not�realize�that when flash for mobile devices (and thus flex in a way) was not dumped, there were still alternatives, and you could still develop apps without using flex, weighing the odds of the options available (at that time or today) is still very subjective and depends on use cases. Flex is still a choice, but the future of technology/platform is uncertain. I would (and everyone should) see this as an opportunity to apply all that you have learnt with flex in other frameworks. extJS do makes sense. Think about working with SVG, canvas directly in the browser. HTML5 capabilities are not there yet, and�undoubtedly�flex is ahead, but flex clearly is not the future, HTML5 is. �

Thanks

Saurabh

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:41 PM, nishantkyal <nishan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I agree with the original post that Flex developers should be on their toes looking at other technologies, the most obvious choice being UI technologies like HTML5, JQuery etc.

Couple of reasons:

• Flex is winding down and even though it'll wind down even faster with upcoming Windows 8 which will not support browser plugins and increasing dominance of iOS. Even Adobe is pulling out of mobile browser space and will have to do so when major OS stop supporting third-party browser plugins. Sad but true.
  
• Flex wouldn't die tomorrow, but you'll see less and less money put into it which means lesser exciting work and more maintenance on projects which are waiting to be converted into other technologies. Obviously these will not be a hell lot and will also not pay as much.
• Being moved over to Apache doesn't mean it's gonna perform as good as other projects. If anything that went to apache became a rockstar, every project will start on apache. Apache is just an opensource foundation, it doesn't drive adoption and success.

My advice to everybody (including me) is to start looking at other technologies and trying to be better programmers with more emphasis on algorithms, UI models, code structuring and just being better programmers. That's your insurance against the any tech you're working on fading out.

Nishant

On Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:22:24 PM UTC+5:30, flexdev wrote:

Hi �All,

Adobe�s view of Flex and its commitments to Flex in the future

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html

Shyam

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:16 PM, naresh s <naresh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I'm a flex developer. I've been working for past 1 year on this
platform. I've observered (you may also) a sharp declining of Flex Job
oppurtunities after HTML5 has succesfully emerged. Not only this, even
Adobe has also decided to move working with HTML5 in a official
statement.

Further more, Flex can't be powerful in Tab arena where IOS and
Android OS work well with HTML5 and other mobile frameworks like
Sencha and ExtJS etc.,

So, should we take our turn towards HTML5, ExtJS, Sencha, JQuery and
any mobile and web frameworks etc...?
Hope your experiences and views will help me and also frehers who want
to see the career in Flex platform.


Regargs,
Naresh

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[Ganesh Suyampirakasam]

Hi thiyagarajan

Is that TRUE??few of my friends still working with flex in CTS

[thiyaga rajan]

Hi Ganesh,


I have heard this news  from CTS Bangalore . Pls check with ur friends is it true or not.

With Regards
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[Jitendra Jain]

There are still big companies preferring Flex over HTML5 for bigger applications. HTML5 is good for smaller applications. I don't know why to panic, when HTML5 specification will be out in four to five years from here. I talked to one of the Apache Flex Committer and he told me that once the Compiler code get into Apache, many of the hurdles will be sorted out. And infact the compiler code is in Apache.
Lets hope for a bigger release/first release from Apache in the next month.

[Saurabh Narula]

A practical and very relevant take on HTML5 vs Flex. A bit long, but detailed and well explained -

http://yakovfain.com/2012/01/26/enterprise-development-flex-or-html5/ 

Thanks

Saurabh