FDS for firefighters

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Matija Balant

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Dec 3, 2012, 9:52:04 AM12/3/12
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Hi to all members of FDS group.

For quite some time now ,I am wondering, if there is anybody who uses FDS as tool for teaching firefighters about enclosure fire dynamic … I am asking this question because I want to write new material about fire development and it’s dynamic for firefighters. If there is anybody who is willing to share such information is more than welcome to contact me.  

Best regards,

Matija Balant

Tristan Hehnen

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Dec 4, 2012, 2:30:45 PM12/4/12
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Hi,

i also thought i would be a good idea to use FDS for firefighter-training.
Until now i just simulated some variations of the roomfire example which comes with FDS. I've added some ISOF for three different temperatures (40°C, 250°C and 500°C) und for three different oxygen concentrations (20%, 13.5% and 11.4%) and put in some SLCF for temperature, mixture fraction and velocity.
For the geometry i used the following changes: room without ceilling, a lower ceilling (1.4m height), a wooden ceilling and a hot ceilling (650°C).

I'm not sure but i think i will change the resolution to 5cm cells.

I want to explain the flashover phenomenon with these simulations but until now i haven't. I'm scheduled for february for the presentation so i do not have any experience if FDS is appropriate for this application.


Tristan Hehnen
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Dec 5, 2012, 10:09:07 AM12/5/12
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On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:57:46 AM UTC-5, Matija Balant wrote:

Hi Tristan,

I am happy to hear your reply to my mail. I am also doing some simulation based on real fire. My friends have put out fire in the house and recorded fire development via thermo couples...  This material is my basic. They want to put this material (photos) of fire in our material for teaching fire fighters about extinguishing enclosure fire... I see opportunity for visualization of mentioned fire via FDS... And I would like to get in touch with peoples who also are using or will use FDS to teach firefighters about fire dynamic. At the moment I do not have time to look more in the detail in the users guide, if FDS is appropriate for modeling flashover, but I have Google out some material and this is video of flashover model, created with FDS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmcd1Z0l6Qw


I have also attach a file in which is topic related with computer models (also FDS) and flashover simulation...


P.S.

If I tell something about my self. I am a voluntary firefighter in Slovenia. Are you from Germany? I would like to get in touch with you. Where you are planing to present your presentation? Will be public?


Regards,


Matija







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Mohamed ASSAL

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Dec 5, 2012, 10:18:35 AM12/5/12
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Hi Matija and Tristan.

There are some teaching materials about flashover for firefighters but
in french language. with the version 4 of FDS.

Modélisation - FDS & Smokeview (I) ......... Modélisation - FDS &
Smokeview (VI)

http://www.flashover.fr/modules.php?name=Search

I can help you on the language issues.

Cheers Mohamed.


2012/12/5, Matija Balant <matija...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Tristan,
>
> I am happy to hear your reply to my mail. I am also doing some simulation
> based on real fire. My friends have put out fire in the house and recorded
> fire development via thermo couples... This material is my basic. They
> want to put this material (photos) of fire in our material for teaching
> fire fighters about extinguishing enclosure fire... I see opportunity for
> visualization of mentioned fire via FDS... And I would like to get in touch
> with peoples who also are using or will use FDS to teach firefighters about
> fire dynamic. At the moment I do not have time to look more in the detail
> in the users guide, if FDS is appropriate for modeling flashover, but I
> have Google out some material and this is video of flashover model, created
> with FDS:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmcd1Z0l6Qw
>
>
> I have also attach a file in which is topic related with computer models
> (also FDS) and flashover simulation...
>
>
> P.S.
>
> If I tell something about my self. I am a voluntary firefighter in
> Slovenia. Are you from Germany? I would like to get in touch with you.
> Where you are planing to present your presentation? Will be public?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Matija
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 December 2012 20:30, Tristan Hehnen
> <tristan.fi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>

Tristan Hehnen

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Dec 7, 2012, 5:09:08 AM12/7/12
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Hi Matija and Mohamed.

To Matija: I am also an voluntary firefighter and I'm from Germany. The presentation will not be public, it is planned only for members of our firestation. I consider this presentation more like a test for using FDS results in presentations like this.

To Mohamed: I will take a look at the material you mentioned, thank you for the link!

Regards,

Tristan
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