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Thomas Beale

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Jun 16, 2012, 11:47:43 AM6/16/12
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I have created some initial 'about' content for the community. Yes, I know, this is presumptuous, but I am hoping that this community will be broadly interested in these ideas and/or morph them into more representative ones. See http://www.eiffelhub.org/node/1 .

According to the ideas posted above, I think there are various practical activities that can occur in parallel:
* the 'identify' stage - setting up some kind of register of existing components. I know this has been done 10 times before, and a starting point is probably one of the previous lists.
* the 'describe' activity - some components have active maintainers and can be 'described' - for this we need to decide on a set of adequate meta-data
* the 'accession' activity - actually moving code into the EiffelHub.github area, and putting it under some sort of known management
* the 'roadmap' activity - defining target structure & contents for a coherent application and system development environment.

For some time initially, it would be good just to do the first 2 items, I suspect. Question: how do we want to go about setting up a register of existing code? It could be a page on the website, but ideally we want to be able to query it. I am a Drupal newcomer, so am unclear on what is behind Drupal, in terms of helping us build queryable website content.

This question also applies to the 'describe' activity, since ideally we want to be able to query the component descriptions.

thoughts?

- thomas beale

Thomas Beale

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On 16/06/2012 16:47, Thomas Beale wrote:
All,
I have created some initial 'about' content for the community. Yes, I know, this is presumptuous, but I am hoping that this community will be broadly interested in these ideas and/or morph them into more representative ones. See http://www.eiffelhub.org/node/1 .

I fixed this - now it is http://www.eiffelhub.org/about


According to the ideas posted above, I think there are various practical activities that can occur in parallel:
* the 'identify' stage - setting up some kind of register of existing components. I know this has been done 10 times before, and a starting point is probably one of the previous lists.
* the 'describe' activity - some components have active maintainers and can be 'described' - for this we need to decide on a set of adequate meta-data
* the 'accession' activity - actually moving code into the EiffelHub.github area, and putting it under some sort of known management
* the 'roadmap' activity - defining target structure & contents for a coherent application and system development environment.

For some time initially, it would be good just to do the first 2 items, I suspect. Question: how do we want to go about setting up a register of existing code? It could be a page on the website, but ideally we want to be able to query it. I am a Drupal newcomer, so am unclear on what is behind Drupal, in terms of helping us build queryable website content.

This question also applies to the 'describe' activity, since ideally we want to be able to query the component descriptions.

thoughts?

- thomas beale
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Thomas Beale

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Any reactions?


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Jocelyn Fiat

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Jun 25, 2012, 4:34:08 AM6/25/12
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About drupal, we can create new content type, and within drupal, we
can precise the different fields.
Once we have that, I guess we need to build a specific drupal module
to be able to search/query ... those specific content types.

Now, we should know what kind of data/field we want
Once we know that, we can customize drupal to edit/display them.

In the meantime, I guess we can start using Drupal's book, and put the
information in text.

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Thomas Beale

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Jun 25, 2012, 6:26:01 PM6/25/12
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On 25/06/2012 09:34, Jocelyn Fiat wrote:
About drupal, we can create new content type, and within drupal, we
can precise the different fields.
Once we have that, I guess we need to build a specific drupal module
to be able to search/query ... those specific content types.

Now, we should know what kind of data/field we want
Once we know that, we can customize drupal to edit/display them.

ok - if that functionality exists, I'm happy to make a first draft of the fields - I'll have it done sometime this week. Can we create a drupal form to capture a 'record' (or whatever Drupal's idea of a data object or data set is)?




In the meantime, I guess we can start using Drupal's book, and put the
information in text.

there is other stuff I think we can document in this way. I'll do some work on that this week.

- thomas


Alexander Kogtenkov

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Nov 9, 2012, 2:51:03 AM11/9/12
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If Eiffel Hub is going to take over NICE, it seems to be the good time
to deal with that right now - see today's post to the NICE discussion
group:

Thomas Beale

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Hi Alex,

I agree. So far I have not managed to get anyone to reply to my previous posts on this list about moving forward!  Anyone interested in moving on this?

I'll post a reply on that other list.

- thomas


Jocelyn Fiat

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Nov 9, 2012, 4:42:24 AM11/9/12
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Hi all,

I am interested as before.

If needed, I am candidate to be on the next board of NICE or EiffelHub, if any.

And I wish to continue the EiffelHub project, maybe more focus on providing resources such as tutorial, but also application framework.

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