Learn DJango first, then learn Pinax; or just learn Pinax straight-off?

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Alec Taylor

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Sep 17, 2011, 3:17:32 AM9/17/11
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Good afternoon,

I plan on using Pinax for a project I'm doing (releasing project under
New BSD or similar).

My Learning Plan is as follows:
1. https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev//intro/tutorial01/
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev//intro/tutorial02/
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev//intro/tutorial03/
2. http://pinaxproject.com/docs/dev/contributing/#getting-started

My current Python skills are limited to PythonCGI only.

Would you recommend I follow the aforementioned Learning Plan, or
would you recommend a different method?

Thanks for all suggestions,

Alec Taylor

Russell Keith-Magee

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Sep 17, 2011, 7:24:31 PM9/17/11
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This sounds like a reasonable approach -- although I would:
* Make sure you do Django's Tutorial 4 after Tutorial 3.
* Use something other than the "how to contribute" guide to Pinax as
your introduction to Pinax.

The thing to keep in mind through all of this is that Python, Django
and Pinax are all just layers built on top of each other. Python is a
language. Django is a library that uses that language. Pinax is a set
of specific Django apps and configuration guidelines that help in
using Django. Jumping straight in and learning Pinax from the start is
probably possible, but you'll miss a whole lot of valuable groundwork
along the way.

Best of luck with your project!

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

Alec Taylor

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Sep 18, 2011, 1:43:10 AM9/18/11
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Thanks Russ, I'll use that method.

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Alec Taylor

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Sep 18, 2011, 1:48:26 AM9/18/11
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Also, quick tutorial question; are there a good set of video tutorials
(i.e. on YouTube or metacafe) for DJango?

/me finds the most resources he has at his disposal the quicker he
learns

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> >> > I plan on using Pinax for a project I'm doing (releasing project under
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> >> > 1.https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev//intro/tutorial01/
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Adnan Sadzak

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Sep 18, 2011, 3:46:36 AM9/18/11
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You have some tutorials on http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/django
Also there is Python videos if You starting up.

Cheers,
Adnan

邓超

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Sep 18, 2011, 8:59:19 PM9/18/11
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I suggest learn django first

2011/9/17 Alec Taylor <alec.t...@gmail.com>
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Alec Taylor

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Sep 19, 2011, 6:48:33 AM9/19/11
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Adnan: Those tutorials seems 2-3 years old, has DJango changed significantly in those years?

Deng: Thanks, I will do so :]

Adnan Sadzak

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Sep 19, 2011, 6:54:14 AM9/19/11
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Yes it has changed, but not so much that you can't follow tutorials.


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Adnan: Those tutorials seems 2-3 years old, has DJango changed significantly in those years?

Deng: Thanks, I will do so :]

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Rajul Srivastava

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Sep 19, 2011, 4:52:33 AM9/19/11
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Dear Alec,

I would suggest that you learn Django first before you move on to Pinax,as Pinax is just a collection a number of commonly used  Django apps. So you must at least have a basic grasp of Django before you start with Pinax. Also in the official documentation of Pinax, on the Getting Started page they give the links to Django tutorial and Django documentation. So it seems only logical to first deal with Django and then go after Pinax. Your learning plan does seem fine and the tutorial will at least give you a basic overview of Django, though I doubt that it will be sufficient to make you a Django expert but it will surely give you a start and will prepare you for Pinax.

So, I suggest that you stick to your plan. All the best.

-Rajul

Alec Taylor

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Sep 19, 2011, 7:54:58 AM9/19/11
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Thanks all, lets see how much progress I can make in the next few
days, maybe finally commit some code to my github!

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Brian Rosner

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On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Alec Taylor <alec.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would you recommend I follow the aforementioned Learning Plan, or
> would you recommend a different method?

Our getting started guide
http://pinax.readthedocs.org/en/latest/gettingstarted.html shows you
some reading you should do before diving into Pinax. NOTE: the
documentation linked is for the development version of Pinax.

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Alec Taylor

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Sep 26, 2011, 10:20:09 PM9/26/11
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Thanks. I'll get the prereqs installed now.

Alec Taylor

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Jan 16, 2012, 1:12:31 PM1/16/12
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Thanks

(also, apologies for replying to these so late, I thought I was subscribed but I was only a member... n00b mistake, well I'm getting them as they arrive now)

Mario Gudelj

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Jan 16, 2012, 6:03:57 PM1/16/12
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I'd recommend Django first. Do the polls tutorial, first 7 chapters of the book, some Django By Example tuts and then get into Pinax.




Cheers,

On 17 January 2012 05:12, Alec Taylor <alec.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks

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Venkatraman S

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Jan 16, 2012, 10:52:21 PM1/16/12
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http://www.lightbird.net/dbe/ has some neat hands-on tutorials.

-Venkat

Alec Taylor

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Jan 16, 2012, 11:08:48 PM1/16/12
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Thanks, I didn't know of the lightBird site.

mattym

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Jan 17, 2012, 12:14:10 AM1/17/12
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I started learning Python and Django at the same time. That was a bit
of a challenge for me, with the Django template language having
slightly different syntax. Soon after I started I had to get a project
out fast, so I went with Pinax. Pinax helped me learn more about
Django (and Python). It felt complementary to me.

Python knowledge and an undertanding the MVC pattern will help tons.

Good luck!
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