accessing django

[Lewis]

Hello,
Is it the right way to access django without going through the command shell, but instead using ftp -> making new file and edit just like using php?



Thanks

[Jonathan Baker]

When you say "access django", exactly what do you mean?

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[Lewis Satini]

For example, there's a script I want to install and everytime, I need to access to the command shell to install it, but in the case of php I can just unzip and upload to the server and access through browser.
Can I do with that way? how is the process?

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[Tom Evans]

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Lewis Satini <jubile...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For example, there's a script I want to install and everytime, I need to
> access to the command shell to install it, but in the case of php I can just
> unzip and upload to the server and access through browser.
> Can I do with that way? how is the process?
>

Django doesn't work like PHP. In PHP, each PHP file is a single
"program" that is run when the web server loads that 'page'. In
django, there is a single "program" that runs and communicates with
the web server. There are no "Django scripts" for instance, there are
Django packages you can install which add functionality to your Django
"program".

So no, you can't simply upload "scripts" to the web server with ftp, not easily.

Cheers

Tom

[Lewis Satini]

Hello,
I am sorry for misplace script and package. I am new to Django.
so everytime when I need to install Django packages. I need to do it through command shell? is there any other way without going through command shell?

Thanks

Tom

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[Kurtis Mullins]

Not really. You could probably use a host that might have some fancy control panel for doing something like that; but I'd recommend just using the shell. It'll make life a lot easier in the long run.

[Lewis Satini]

Thank guys for helping this out.
One more question what is the basic step of installing the package? are they all the same?

[Tom Evans]

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Lewis Satini <jubile...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am sorry for misplace script and package. I am new to Django.
> so everytime when I need to install Django packages. I need to do it through
> command shell? is there any other way without going through command shell?
>
> Thanks
>

As I said, no not really. Certain python packages require compilation
with a C compiler (python-mysql, python imaging library, others), some
are just pure python, and others can do whatever the heck they want
before installing.

With the right setup, you could 'install' pure python packages simply
by creating the right folders, and uploading the files in the right
place, and having your web server notice when this happens and restart
your django application. I wouldn't recommend this, it would be
difficult to setup, and you always run the risk of a package not being
installed correctly. Just install them as they are supposed to be
installed.

Cheers

Tom

[Tom Evans]

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Lewis Satini <jubile...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank guys for helping this out.
> One more question what is the basic step of installing the package? are they
> all the same?

Why don't you install a couple and see?

They are normally similar, but not necessarily so.

Tom

[Kurtis Mullins]

It depends on the computer, but I'd recommend using a Virtual Environment and the program called 'pip'. Google can be your friend there :) Or if you run into any specific problems, don't hesitate to ask!

[Lewis Satini]

Thank you so much all of you and the fast response

Tom

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[Jonathan Baker]

As a former PHP dev who avoided the command line at all cost, the frustrations during the transition period to Python/Django/CLI were well worth it. It can seem daunting, but command line syntax quickly becomes second nature, and I can't imagine going back to the days when I developed using a mouse.

As for package management, I'd highly recommend using pip within virtualenv. Here are a few links that helped me get started:

http://mirnazim.org/writings/python-ecosystem-introduction/

http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2009/05/notes-using-pip-and-virtualenv-django/

http://www.clemesha.org/blog/modern-python-hacker-tools-virtualenv-fabric-pip/