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Sanjay M

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I am new to Django, and I was confused in choosing a IDE between Eclipse and aptana studio 3 to edit source code. Kindly suggest me a good one. 

Thank you in advance,
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Sanjay M


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I worked for month with aptana 3 on mac, but now i found pycharm
(http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/), fast, configurable and powerful.
Only one problem: it's not free!!! :)


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Ali Mesdaq

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If you can pay for the full version Komodo has been working awesome for me
not only for Django but for almost any kind of development work.

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doniyor

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aptana is the best, free and light. 

Eugenio Minardi

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Aptana works fine as soon as the workspace is light. We switched to PyCharm if you use it for work you'll get back the money you spent by saving time.

Eugenio

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Sanjay M

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Thanks for all the replies, But what is the difference between aptana standalone version eclipse plugin version? 

doniyor

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aptana standalone is the whole aptana ide and NOT a plugin for eclipse. (you can also install a aptana plugin into eclipse)

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Aptana or Eclipse with PyDev Plugin

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Sandro Dutra

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Again... Please search before create one more of this messages about "What's IDE is best?". The best IDE is the IDE you fell confortable using. There 666 topics about this here, search...

2012/5/14 Eneldo Serrata <eneldo...@gmail.com>

Aaron C. de Bruyn

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Try here:

https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoResources#IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments

But keep in mind, a good carpenter can work with a $5 hammer or a $50
hammer. The tools don't make the developer. (Although they can make
the job of a good developer easier.)

-A

doniyor

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@Aaron: you are more than right, 

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Harold.Miao

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maybe  eclipse+pydev  is good  IDE

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Maybe you can try Sublime Text 2. It's a good IDE or Editor.

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Ezequiel Bertti

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10x pycharm...

the best one...

the only one made to work with python and django...
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Harold.Miao

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it is not a free sw

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Phang Mulianto

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Again? 

Well i just use a simple text editor

Timothy Makobu

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PyCharm. Spend the $$, its worth it.

cougar cougar

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Pycharm

2012/5/14 Sanjay M <isan...@gmail.com>

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cougar cougar

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ulipad , free  and build with wxpython

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Karl Sutt

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I use Vim, for everything involving writing -- coding, producing papers/articles/reports, editing existing code and documents. It is not an IDE, but a text editor, and it is absolutely excellent. Once you learn Vim, you'll never want to use anything else (this is the case for me, at least). The learning curve is rather steep, but after you get used to the different modes, moving around and editing text efficiently, you start to see and appreciate the power of the keyboard.

The downside is that it does not come with documentation built in, or the code-checking and all that fancy stuff, like the bigger counterparts (Eclipse, Aptana, pyCharm etc), but I personally don't need it.
The upside is that you are not tied to a specific IDE for a specific language/framework. Vim lets you edit code and text efficiently, regardless of what language/framework/task you are working with.

Obviously, my goal is not to say Vim (another example is GNU Emacs) is the best editor ever, but to let people know of tools that have been around since the beginning of first operating systems. They have been perfected over the past 20 years by professionals, people who wrote the very operating systems you use today.

For a beginner programmer, my suggestion is to always start with the simplest tools possible, and not let one IDE do everything for you, without you understanding the process. The downside is that you'll have to put in a lot more effort to get going and you don't get the fancy add-ons. But the upside (in my opinion, anyway) is that you gain a deeper understanding of how these things fit together, giving you a better insight into whatever you're working on. Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty :-)

Karl Sutt

Matthew Lai

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I use PyCharm, it's a very good IDE, you can download and try first.

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For people used to using Vim in Unix, there is an Eclipse plug-in called Vwrapper.

- knowledge_seeker


On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:16:00 AM UTC-7, Karl Sutt wrote:
I use Vim, for everything involving writing -- coding, producing papers/articles/reports, editing existing code and documents. It is not an IDE, but a text editor, and it is absolutely excellent. Once you learn Vim, you'll never want to use anything else (this is the case for me, at least). The learning curve is rather steep, but after you get used to the different modes, moving around and editing text efficiently, you start to see and appreciate the power of the keyboard.

The downside is that it does not come with documentation built in, or the code-checking and all that fancy stuff, like the bigger counterparts (Eclipse, Aptana, pyCharm etc), but I personally don't need it.
The upside is that you are not tied to a specific IDE for a specific language/framework. Vim lets you edit code and text efficiently, regardless of what language/framework/task you are working with.

Obviously, my goal is not to say Vim (another example is GNU Emacs) is the best editor ever, but to let people know of tools that have been around since the beginning of first operating systems. They have been perfected over the past 20 years by professionals, people who wrote the very operating systems you use today.

For a beginner programmer, my suggestion is to always start with the simplest tools possible, and not let one IDE do everything for you, without you understanding the process. The downside is that you'll have to put in a lot more effort to get going and you don't get the fancy add-ons. But the upside (in my opinion, anyway) is that you gain a deeper understanding of how these things fit together, giving you a better insight into whatever you're working on. Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty :-)

Karl Sutt


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ulipad , free  and build with wxpython


2012/5/14 Sanjay M <isan...@gmail.com>
I am new to Django, and I was confused in choosing a IDE between Eclipse and aptana studio 3 to edit source code. Kindly suggest me a good one. 

Thank you in advance,
Regards,
Sanjay M


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On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:16:00 AM UTC-7, Karl Sutt wrote:
I use Vim, for everything involving writing -- coding, producing papers/articles/reports, editing existing code and documents. It is not an IDE, but a text editor, and it is absolutely excellent. Once you learn Vim, you'll never want to use anything else (this is the case for me, at least). The learning curve is rather steep, but after you get used to the different modes, moving around and editing text efficiently, you start to see and appreciate the power of the keyboard.

The downside is that it does not come with documentation built in, or the code-checking and all that fancy stuff, like the bigger counterparts (Eclipse, Aptana, pyCharm etc), but I personally don't need it.
The upside is that you are not tied to a specific IDE for a specific language/framework. Vim lets you edit code and text efficiently, regardless of what language/framework/task you are working with.

Obviously, my goal is not to say Vim (another example is GNU Emacs) is the best editor ever, but to let people know of tools that have been around since the beginning of first operating systems. They have been perfected over the past 20 years by professionals, people who wrote the very operating systems you use today.

For a beginner programmer, my suggestion is to always start with the simplest tools possible, and not let one IDE do everything for you, without you understanding the process. The downside is that you'll have to put in a lot more effort to get going and you don't get the fancy add-ons. But the upside (in my opinion, anyway) is that you gain a deeper understanding of how these things fit together, giving you a better insight into whatever you're working on. Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty :-)

Karl Sutt


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ulipad , free  and build with wxpython


2012/5/14 Sanjay M <isan...@gmail.com>
I am new to Django, and I was confused in choosing a IDE between Eclipse and aptana studio 3 to edit source code. Kindly suggest me a good one. 

Thank you in advance,
Regards,
Sanjay M


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On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:16:00 AM UTC-7, Karl Sutt wrote:
I use Vim, for everything involving writing -- coding, producing papers/articles/reports, editing existing code and documents. It is not an IDE, but a text editor, and it is absolutely excellent. Once you learn Vim, you'll never want to use anything else (this is the case for me, at least). The learning curve is rather steep, but after you get used to the different modes, moving around and editing text efficiently, you start to see and appreciate the power of the keyboard.

The downside is that it does not come with documentation built in, or the code-checking and all that fancy stuff, like the bigger counterparts (Eclipse, Aptana, pyCharm etc), but I personally don't need it.
The upside is that you are not tied to a specific IDE for a specific language/framework. Vim lets you edit code and text efficiently, regardless of what language/framework/task you are working with.

Obviously, my goal is not to say Vim (another example is GNU Emacs) is the best editor ever, but to let people know of tools that have been around since the beginning of first operating systems. They have been perfected over the past 20 years by professionals, people who wrote the very operating systems you use today.

For a beginner programmer, my suggestion is to always start with the simplest tools possible, and not let one IDE do everything for you, without you understanding the process. The downside is that you'll have to put in a lot more effort to get going and you don't get the fancy add-ons. But the upside (in my opinion, anyway) is that you gain a deeper understanding of how these things fit together, giving you a better insight into whatever you're working on. Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty :-)

Karl Sutt


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ulipad , free  and build with wxpython


2012/5/14 Sanjay M <isan...@gmail.com>
I am new to Django, and I was confused in choosing a IDE between Eclipse and aptana studio 3 to edit source code. Kindly suggest me a good one. 

Thank you in advance,
Regards,
Sanjay M


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On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:16:00 AM UTC-7, Karl Sutt wrote:
I use Vim, for everything involving writing -- coding, producing papers/articles/reports, editing existing code and documents. It is not an IDE, but a text editor, and it is absolutely excellent. Once you learn Vim, you'll never want to use anything else (this is the case for me, at least). The learning curve is rather steep, but after you get used to the different modes, moving around and editing text efficiently, you start to see and appreciate the power of the keyboard.

The downside is that it does not come with documentation built in, or the code-checking and all that fancy stuff, like the bigger counterparts (Eclipse, Aptana, pyCharm etc), but I personally don't need it.
The upside is that you are not tied to a specific IDE for a specific language/framework. Vim lets you edit code and text efficiently, regardless of what language/framework/task you are working with.

Obviously, my goal is not to say Vim (another example is GNU Emacs) is the best editor ever, but to let people know of tools that have been around since the beginning of first operating systems. They have been perfected over the past 20 years by professionals, people who wrote the very operating systems you use today.

For a beginner programmer, my suggestion is to always start with the simplest tools possible, and not let one IDE do everything for you, without you understanding the process. The downside is that you'll have to put in a lot more effort to get going and you don't get the fancy add-ons. But the upside (in my opinion, anyway) is that you gain a deeper understanding of how these things fit together, giving you a better insight into whatever you're working on. Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty :-)

Karl Sutt


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ulipad , free  and build with wxpython


2012/5/14 Sanjay M <isan...@gmail.com>
I am new to Django, and I was confused in choosing a IDE between Eclipse and aptana studio 3 to edit source code. Kindly suggest me a good one. 

Thank you in advance,
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Sanjay M


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You make a really good point about starting with Vim. I personally started
with Vim and used it exclusively for years and feel all developers need to
be at least proficient with it. But just as you should start with Vim you
probably also should move on once your intermediate to advanced in
development. To me going back to Vim from Komodo is like going back to the
stone age. Just as we are always looking for the best web technologies to
develop on that make our lives easier and solutions better we should also
do the same with our development environments.

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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:52 PM, knowledge_seeker
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> For people used to using Vim in Unix, there is an Eclipse plug-in called
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For people used to using vim there is vim.

http://pragmatictips.com/22

No amount of point and click frippery can replace the power that is
gained by being proficient with a truly powerful editor.

Cheers

Tom

Kejun He

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Hi,
  I using wingide

yati sagade

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Let  us take an oath not to answer any more of these IDE questions. I don't mean to be rude, but PLEASE SEARCH BEFORE ASKING. PLEASE do. Every other day someone asks.
 "Hi I'm new to Django, What IDE should I use?"

 and a steady stream of replies like "I use xxx", "I like yyy, but XXX looks good.." start appearing. Enough, people.

Old members, PLEASE direct the OPs of such questions to an existing thread, or ask them to search rather than answering. If one person answers, others feel tempted to do so, I don't know why.

No offence meant to anyone, but this is just annoying.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Kejun He <print...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
  I using wingide

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@yati : True. I believe the following links should answer and, hopefully,  close the discussion:


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