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Bill Cuningham

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Dec 11, 2016, 1:57:10 PM12/11/16
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Does anyone know anything about this "install filesystem" that msdos 4.x
and 5.x used? I just heard of it. A driver system of some kind I read. Are
there any drivers out there for this?

Bill


R.Wieser

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Dec 11, 2016, 2:35:35 PM12/11/16
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Bill,

> Does anyone know anything about this "install filesystem" that
> msdos 4.x and 5.x used?

Yup, I do. Or rather, knew (Its rather long time ago I did anything with
it).

> Are there any drivers out there for this?

Yep, but very few that where of any use for someone wanting to write one
himself (mostly no sourcecode).

I just dove into my "chest of old stuff", and found some code back I worked
on, which, in its description header, mentioned where I got my info from.
Turns out that most of it came outof a single source: 'iHPFS for DOS' by
Marcus Better.

A quick-is peek on the Web shows that its (decade) old download has gone,
but I was able to find another using just the files name:

http://www.jumpjet.info/Application-Software/DOS/Viewers/iHPFS/iHPFS.zip

Hope you can use it.

Also do not forget Ralf Browns (excellent) interrupt list. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Bill Cuningham

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"R.Wieser" <add...@not.available> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
>> Does anyone know anything about this "install filesystem" that
>> msdos 4.x and 5.x used?
>
> Yup, I do. Or rather, knew (Its rather long time ago I did anything with
> it).
>
>> Are there any drivers out there for this?
>
> Yep, but very few that where of any use for someone wanting to write one
> himself (mostly no sourcecode).
>
> I just dove into my "chest of old stuff", and found some code back I
> worked
> on, which, in its description header, mentioned where I got my info from.
> Turns out that most of it came outof a single source: 'iHPFS for DOS' by
> Marcus Better.
>
> A quick-is peek on the Web shows that its (decade) old download has gone,
> but I was able to find another using just the files name:
>
> http://www.jumpjet.info/Application-Software/DOS/Viewers/iHPFS/iHPFS.zip
>
> Hope you can use it.
>
> Also do not forget Ralf Browns (excellent) interrupt list. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser

Ok did you need to use fdisk.exe to create a parition and maybe
format.com to format? Or do you need a HPFS filesystem? I don't have a
formatter for that. I run Virt PC 2007 and MS-DOS 5.21.

Bill


Rod Pemberton

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Dec 11, 2016, 10:39:03 PM12/11/16
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Wildman

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Dec 12, 2016, 12:19:14 AM12/12/16
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 20:38:30 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:

> Bill,
>
>> Does anyone know anything about this "install filesystem" that
>> msdos 4.x and 5.x used?
>
> Yup, I do. Or rather, knew (Its rather long time ago I did anything with
> it).
>
>> Are there any drivers out there for this?
>
> Yep, but very few that where of any use for someone wanting to write one
> himself (mostly no sourcecode).
>
> I just dove into my "chest of old stuff", and found some code back I worked
> on, which, in its description header, mentioned where I got my info from.
> Turns out that most of it came outof a single source: 'iHPFS for DOS' by
> Marcus Better.
>
> A quick-is peek on the Web shows that its (decade) old download has gone,
> but I was able to find another using just the files name:
>
> http://www.jumpjet.info/Application-Software/DOS/Viewers/iHPFS/iHPFS.zip
>
> Hope you can use it.

I found a couple of older versions here:

http://www.dcee.net/Files/Utils/

Scroll down to the bottom and you will find ihpfs122.zip and
ihpfs124.zip.

You might want to bookmark the page or just go ahead and
mirror it to your harddrive. Lots of other good stuff
there.

Or better yet, bookmark this:

http://www.dcee.net/Files/

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The cow died so I don't need your bull!

R.Wieser

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Dec 12, 2016, 2:36:33 AM12/12/16
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Bill,

> Ok did you need to use fdisk.exe to create a parition
> and maybe format.com to format? Or do you need a
> HPFS filesystem?

I have no idea, sorry.

I used that sourcecode as a reference to how IFS works, and wrote something
quite different (a simple "remote drive" using UDP over a packet driver).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Bill Cunningham

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"Rod Pemberton" <NeedNotR...@xrsevnneqk.cem> wrote in message
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The last three are broke. I am interested in that iso9660 thing with
mscd.exe. I got the fips for partitions a small partition. fdisk isn't good
to use. At least IDK how to use it. I create da small 50 MB extended
partition. Now with the ihpfs filesystem utility, do you need a formatter
for HPFS ?

Bill


Rod Pemberton

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On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:07:47 -0500
"Bill Cunningham" <nos...@nspam.invalid> wrote:

> "Rod Pemberton" <NeedNotR...@xrsevnneqk.cem> wrote in message
> news:20161211223935.0cb8f51d@_...
> > On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:57:11 -0500
> > "Bill Cuningham" <nos...@nspam.invalid> wrote:

> >> Does anyone know anything about this "install filesystem" that
> >> msdos 4.x and 5.x used? I just heard of it. A driver system of some
> >> kind I read. Are there any drivers out there for this?
> >>
> >
> > If you mean an installable filesystem, then take a look at some of
> > my posts to Harry Potter:
> >
> > [links]
> >
> > If a link you need is out of date, I'll try to locate a new source
> > for it.
>
> The last three are broke. I am interested in that iso9660 thing with
> mscd.exe. I got the fips for partitions a small partition. fdisk
> isn't good to use. At least IDK how to use it. I create da small 50
> MB extended partition. Now with the ihpfs filesystem utility, do you
> need a formatter for HPFS ?
>

Sorry about the delay guys. I went over the links. Except for a few,
the links were either correct or still available from the same
websites. I couldn't find a copy of CPHANTOM1.zip, only CPHANTOM.zip.
If I found multiple locations, I provided additional links.

CPHANTOM by Thomas F. Divine
(as CPHANTOM.zip or CPHANTOM1.zip)
CPHANTOM.zip
http://web.archive.org/web/20100922072815/http://decuslib.com/decus/vmslt99a/nt/cphantom.zip
http://www.filewatcher.com/m/cphantom.zip.32033-0.html

A "ramdrive" by Davin McCall to comp.os.msdos.programmer
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.msdos.programmer/msg/36b34f208807076b
Message-ID: <8799181...@proxy1.albury.net.au>

CMU's Mach DOS emulator i386.mdos.src.tar.Z from here:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/mach/public/src/

CDROM.C by Jim Harper
http://www.drdobbs.com/database/a-dos-redirector-for-scsi-cd-rom/184408958

IHPFS (An HPFS Driver for DOS) by Marcus Better
(as IHPFS115.zip or IHPFS128.zip or IHPFS129.arj)
http://cd.textfiles.com/hobbesos29503/32BIT/DOS/IHPFS115.ZIP
http://kannegieser.net/veit/programm/ihpfs129.arj

RIFS (Remote Installable File System) by Kyle A. York
(as DOSRIF.zip or DOSRIFS.zip or DOSRIFS2.zip)
http://cyberside.net.ee/files/util/system/dosrif.zip
http://cyberside.net.ee/files/util/system/dosrifs2.zip

a) device drivers

IBM Disk Operating System Version 4.00 Technical Reference
"Chapter 11. Writing an Installable Device Driver"
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/pc/dos/15F0256_DOS_4.0_Technical_Reference_Jul88.pdf

PC DOS 7 Technical Update
"Chapter 8. Writing an Installable Device Driver"
http://web.archive.org/web/20060515000000*/http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/gg244459.pdf
http://www.tavi.co.uk/phobos/pdf/gg244459.pdf
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/GG244459.html (html version)

"DOS Device Drivers: A Debugging Utility and Definition"
Stephen A Rodgers, Programmers Journal, Nov. 1988, pg 46-52
http://www.unz.org/Pub/ProgrammersJournal-1988nov-00046

DR-DOS System and Programmer's Guide Device Driver.htm
"Chapter 6 Device Drivers"
http://www.drdos.net/documentation/sysprog/chap6.htm

Writing MS-DOS Device Drivers by Marcus Johnson, DDJ, Dec 1990
http://www.drdobbs.com/writing-ms-dos-device-drivers/184402277

b) installable filesystems

Old post of mine with list of Int 2F "network redirector" functions
(as equates).
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.msdos.programmer/pw4dPk30E30/vUue6E8VXncJ
Message-ID: <b6ph93-...@news.infowest.com>

c) Some links to other reference and technical manuals for
DOS, BIOS, PC/XT/AT/PS2 etc:

http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/pc/ps2/
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/pc/dos/
http://www.retroarchive.org/dos/docs/
http://www.mcamafia.de/pdf/pdfref.htm
https://archive.org/details/SystemBiosForIbmPcxtAtComputersCompatibles

HTH,


Rod Pemberton

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