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Frank Slootweg
Feb 27, 2020, 2:22:57 PM2/27/20
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jetjock <jet...@example.com> wrote:
> This is sort of a follow up on "Update borks Silent Boot". After doing
> quite a bit of research I found a couple of ways to silence that AT&T
> startup chime. The catch is that they all require rooting the phone.
If these "couple of ways" 'only' involves, replacing/deleting a file,
then there may be simpler, less risky, methods than rooting. See Theo's
response about using 'adb' in the +/- January 12 thread "Samsung
MiniDiary app - database copy" in this group.
> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
I've rooted my old phone. It's not a Samsung (but Huawei Ascend Y300).
> Next question. Did you have any trouble either rooting the phone or
> using it afterwards?
I used KingRoot (do not confuse with 'Kingo Root') to root my phone.
It was easy, with no ill effects. KingRoot gives root-access on a
per-app basis [1].
<https://kingroot.net>
> Would you recommend doing it? If so, why...if not, why?
I would not recommend rooting for a 'minor' issue such as yours
(silencing the startup chime) and I would not recommend it for an
expensive phone (which I assume the Samsung Galaxy S9+ is).
KingRoot has a good track record and good reviews, but it *is*
possible to brick your phone and for your need and device that risk
would not be worth it to me.
> Thanks for any and all help.
YW.
[1] Info on how to root with the 'KingRoot' app:
<http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cqhvkm7.4l8.1%40ID-201911.user.individual.net%3E>
> This is sort of a follow up on "Update borks Silent Boot". After doing
> quite a bit of research I found a couple of ways to silence that AT&T
> startup chime. The catch is that they all require rooting the phone.
If these "couple of ways" 'only' involves, replacing/deleting a file,
then there may be simpler, less risky, methods than rooting. See Theo's
response about using 'adb' in the +/- January 12 thread "Samsung
MiniDiary app - database copy" in this group.
> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
I've rooted my old phone. It's not a Samsung (but Huawei Ascend Y300).
> Next question. Did you have any trouble either rooting the phone or
> using it afterwards?
I used KingRoot (do not confuse with 'Kingo Root') to root my phone.
It was easy, with no ill effects. KingRoot gives root-access on a
per-app basis [1].
<https://kingroot.net>
> Would you recommend doing it? If so, why...if not, why?
I would not recommend rooting for a 'minor' issue such as yours
(silencing the startup chime) and I would not recommend it for an
expensive phone (which I assume the Samsung Galaxy S9+ is).
KingRoot has a good track record and good reviews, but it *is*
possible to brick your phone and for your need and device that risk
would not be worth it to me.
> Thanks for any and all help.
YW.
[1] Info on how to root with the 'KingRoot' app:
<http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cqhvkm7.4l8.1%40ID-201911.user.individual.net%3E>
Arlen Holder
Feb 27, 2020, 8:23:31 PM2/27/20
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On 27 Feb 2020 19:22:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> I used KingRoot (do not confuse with 'Kingo Root') to root my phone.
I recommend rooting under a few circumstances
> I used KingRoot (do not confuse with 'Kingo Root') to root my phone.
a. You have something you want to do that requires rooting
b. You have a common enough phone that the bugs are worked out
For example...
My Samsung Galaxy S3 micro-USB port died where at one point I used
"Kingoroot" (not to be confused with KingRoot), which didn't require the
USB method of rooting.
I simply downloaded the file from the web site, and executed it.
Voila, I was rooted.
Lasted for a couple of years rooted that way (I had that phone for about
five or six years), where my first task was to try to get rid of Knox. :)
Gory details here
o Is this the preferred method to root a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S3 T999
Android 4.3 Jellybean USA phone?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/amPMWaB24GM/aK2LAgJ2AQAJ>
And here
o Anyone have an idea how to get rid of Knox on a Samsung Galaxy S3 on
Android 4.3?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/AL8RKkIMYHI/JtDYGLVOAwAJ>
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Anssi Saari
Feb 29, 2020, 8:41:32 AM2/29/20
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jetjock <jet...@example.com> writes:
> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
I have but I've almost always chosen phones that support rooting. One
> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
time I bought a phone which had only a well documented way to root it by
using a specific security hole in a specific OS version.
> Next question. Did you have any trouble either rooting the phone or
> using it afterwards?
> Would you recommend doing it? If so, why...if not, why?
back then Android had more restrictions. Even taking screenshots
required root early on. OTOH, fixing annoyances can be hard. Root or no,
there's a couple of issues with my current phone I can't fix. Oneplus
could easily fix them but they don't give a damn.
I like having the ability to back stuff up but that could be done
differently. But why do it differently as I have working solutions that
require root.
Other than that, I dunno. Call recording is useful to me sometimes and
it has wobbled between needs root and does not need root over the years.
Arlen Holder
Feb 29, 2020, 8:56:55 AM2/29/20
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:41:30 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> I like having the ability to back stuff up but that could be done
> differently. But why do it differently as I have working solutions that
> require root.
I'm with those who sensibly say root if you need to but hope that your
> I like having the ability to back stuff up but that could be done
> differently. But why do it differently as I have working solutions that
> require root.
phone is common enough to have been well tested in the rooting process (as
mine was, a Samsung Galaxy S3).
As for backing up APKs, I have no problem with the freeware APK backup
mechanisms, where I put my data on the sd card, so re-installing on a new
phone (or a factory wipe) is almost trivial.
<https://i.postimg.cc/hjwRjQWV/homescreen01.jpg>
Even my well honed homescreen is backed up (using Nova free launcher).
<https://i.postimg.cc/rwdW0vrW/apk01.jpg>
My point is that you don't need Titanium Backup to back up the important
stuff, IMHO (although I don't do a bit-for-bit copy on any device as I
think that's just silly).
> Other than that, I dunno. Call recording is useful to me sometimes and
> it has wobbled between needs root and does not need root over the years.
the last two phones were Android 9 and Android 7. YMMV.
<https://i.postimg.cc/GpybJBfK/08audio.jpg>
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Frank Slootweg
Feb 29, 2020, 9:14:48 AM2/29/20
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jetjock <jet...@unkown.com> wrote:
> On 27 Feb 2020 19:22:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> Studio) to be able to use the Dev. Mode on the phone. The only thing I
> can find with that name is what appears to be a manual (about $20) on
> using it.
It's often a major overkill to install the humungous Android Studio to
just get 'adb' et al.
Because of that, there are other packages which install just 'adb' and
little else.
This is what I've used before to get 'adb' (and 'fastboot'):
'15 seconds ADB Installer v1.4.3
ADB, Fastboot and Drivers'
<https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979>
> >> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
> >> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
> >
> > I've rooted my old phone. It's not a Samsung (but Huawei Ascend Y300).
> >
> >> Next question. Did you have any trouble either rooting the phone or
> >> using it afterwards?
> >
> > I used KingRoot (do not confuse with 'Kingo Root') to root my phone.
> >It was easy, with no ill effects. KingRoot gives root-access on a
> >per-app basis [1].
> >
> ><https://kingroot.net>
>
> I looked at this link and all I get is a bunch of Japanese or Korean
> figures.
Oops! It seems that KingRoot does no longer exist.
If you use Google Translate on the page, it says:
"announcement
Dear KingRoot, Master of Purification:
Due to business adjustments, KingRoot and Purification Master products
went offline on December 24, 2019, and officially stopped service and
operations, no longer providing technical support and maintenance.
With immediate effect, download channels such as the official website
and major application markets will be removed. We apologize for any
inconvenience this may cause, and thank you for your support and love."
So KingRoot is out the door. Pity.
> >> Would you recommend doing it? If so, why...if not, why?
> >
> > I would not recommend rooting for a 'minor' issue such as yours
> >(silencing the startup chime) and I would not recommend it for an
> >expensive phone (which I assume the Samsung Galaxy S9+ is).
> >
> > KingRoot has a good track record and good reviews, but it *is*
> >possible to brick your phone and for your need and device that risk
> >would not be worth it to me.
> >
> >> Thanks for any and all help.
> >
> > YW.
> >
> >[1] Info on how to root with the 'KingRoot' app:
> ><http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cqhvkm7.4l8.1%40ID-201911.user.individual.net%3E>
>
> Checked this link also and it didn't really give "instructions" for
> using KingRoot.
Not that it matters anymore, but it *does* give instructions for using
KingRoot. The/my article refers to
<https://android.tutorials.how/kingroot-review> which does give very
detailed instructions.
> However, I did find this: https://www.xda-developers.com/kingroot/
> Any comments on what they say?
I never encountered any of the mentioned problems, risks, adware,
etc.. It's quite a lot of allegations without any specifics, let alsone
proof, but in general it's better to be safe than sorry and it's all
moot now.
> If I understand you correctly, KingRoot does NOT root the phone; only
> allows access to certain files? So if I use it to JUST disable the
> AT&T startup chime, and then exit it, the phone will not really be
> rooted, only one file will be changed?
Correct. You would give root-permission to whatever is your file
manager app (on my Samsung tablet it's the 'My Files' app), use that
file manager app to remove/replace the file which contains the AT&T
startup chime and then revoke root-permission from your file manager
app.
> As you said, it's not worth rooting the whole phone just to stop that
> AT&T chime, but if I can just rename it so it doesn't work, that would
> be great.
>
> Well before sending this I decided to do a little more research. Turns
> out that KingRoot does not support my phone (Samsung SM-G965U). Sorry!
> I guess I should have checked earlier. Mea Culpa! But any answers from
> you might help someone else following this thread.
Hopefully, instead of using a rooting app, you can try to use 'adb'
with help of the above mentioned '15 seconds ADB Installer v1.4.3 ADB,
Fastboot and Drivers'.
N.B. The above mentioned Android Tutorials site also has:
'ADB Commands: A Beginners Guide'
<https://android.tutorials.how/adb-commands>
which - amongst others - documents the adb 'pull' and 'push' commands
you will probably need.
Good luck.
> On 27 Feb 2020 19:22:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >jetjock <jet...@example.com> wrote:
> >> This is sort of a follow up on "Update borks Silent Boot". After doing
> >> quite a bit of research I found a couple of ways to silence that AT&T
> >> startup chime. The catch is that they all require rooting the phone.
> >
> > If these "couple of ways" 'only' involves, replacing/deleting a file,
> >then there may be simpler, less risky, methods than rooting. See Theo's
> >response about using 'adb' in the +/- January 12 thread "Samsung
> >MiniDiary app - database copy" in this group.
>
> I read all that and it appears to an app that I can't find (Android
>
> >jetjock <jet...@example.com> wrote:
> >> This is sort of a follow up on "Update borks Silent Boot". After doing
> >> quite a bit of research I found a couple of ways to silence that AT&T
> >> startup chime. The catch is that they all require rooting the phone.
> >
> > If these "couple of ways" 'only' involves, replacing/deleting a file,
> >then there may be simpler, less risky, methods than rooting. See Theo's
> >response about using 'adb' in the +/- January 12 thread "Samsung
> >MiniDiary app - database copy" in this group.
>
> Studio) to be able to use the Dev. Mode on the phone. The only thing I
> can find with that name is what appears to be a manual (about $20) on
> using it.
It's often a major overkill to install the humungous Android Studio to
just get 'adb' et al.
Because of that, there are other packages which install just 'adb' and
little else.
This is what I've used before to get 'adb' (and 'fastboot'):
'15 seconds ADB Installer v1.4.3
ADB, Fastboot and Drivers'
<https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979>
> >> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
> >> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
> >
> > I've rooted my old phone. It's not a Samsung (but Huawei Ascend Y300).
> >
> >> Next question. Did you have any trouble either rooting the phone or
> >> using it afterwards?
> >
> > I used KingRoot (do not confuse with 'Kingo Root') to root my phone.
> >It was easy, with no ill effects. KingRoot gives root-access on a
> >per-app basis [1].
> >
> ><https://kingroot.net>
>
> figures.
Oops! It seems that KingRoot does no longer exist.
If you use Google Translate on the page, it says:
"announcement
Dear KingRoot, Master of Purification:
Due to business adjustments, KingRoot and Purification Master products
went offline on December 24, 2019, and officially stopped service and
operations, no longer providing technical support and maintenance.
With immediate effect, download channels such as the official website
and major application markets will be removed. We apologize for any
inconvenience this may cause, and thank you for your support and love."
So KingRoot is out the door. Pity.
> >> Would you recommend doing it? If so, why...if not, why?
> >
> > I would not recommend rooting for a 'minor' issue such as yours
> >(silencing the startup chime) and I would not recommend it for an
> >expensive phone (which I assume the Samsung Galaxy S9+ is).
> >
> > KingRoot has a good track record and good reviews, but it *is*
> >possible to brick your phone and for your need and device that risk
> >would not be worth it to me.
> >
> >> Thanks for any and all help.
> >
> > YW.
> >
> >[1] Info on how to root with the 'KingRoot' app:
> ><http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cqhvkm7.4l8.1%40ID-201911.user.individual.net%3E>
>
> using KingRoot.
Not that it matters anymore, but it *does* give instructions for using
KingRoot. The/my article refers to
<https://android.tutorials.how/kingroot-review> which does give very
detailed instructions.
> However, I did find this: https://www.xda-developers.com/kingroot/
> Any comments on what they say?
I never encountered any of the mentioned problems, risks, adware,
etc.. It's quite a lot of allegations without any specifics, let alsone
proof, but in general it's better to be safe than sorry and it's all
moot now.
> If I understand you correctly, KingRoot does NOT root the phone; only
> allows access to certain files? So if I use it to JUST disable the
> AT&T startup chime, and then exit it, the phone will not really be
> rooted, only one file will be changed?
Correct. You would give root-permission to whatever is your file
manager app (on my Samsung tablet it's the 'My Files' app), use that
file manager app to remove/replace the file which contains the AT&T
startup chime and then revoke root-permission from your file manager
app.
> As you said, it's not worth rooting the whole phone just to stop that
> AT&T chime, but if I can just rename it so it doesn't work, that would
> be great.
>
> Well before sending this I decided to do a little more research. Turns
> out that KingRoot does not support my phone (Samsung SM-G965U). Sorry!
> I guess I should have checked earlier. Mea Culpa! But any answers from
> you might help someone else following this thread.
Hopefully, instead of using a rooting app, you can try to use 'adb'
with help of the above mentioned '15 seconds ADB Installer v1.4.3 ADB,
Fastboot and Drivers'.
N.B. The above mentioned Android Tutorials site also has:
'ADB Commands: A Beginners Guide'
<https://android.tutorials.how/adb-commands>
which - amongst others - documents the adb 'pull' and 'push' commands
you will probably need.
Good luck.
Carlos E. R.
Feb 29, 2020, 9:49:28 AM2/29/20
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On 29/02/2020 14.41, Anssi Saari wrote:
> jetjock <jet...@example.com> writes:
>
>> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
>> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
>
> I have but I've almost always chosen phones that support rooting. One
> time I bought a phone which had only a well documented way to root it by
> using a specific security hole in a specific OS version.
Using a hole is not "support rooting". It would be "supported" if the
> jetjock <jet...@example.com> writes:
>
>> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
>> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
>
> I have but I've almost always chosen phones that support rooting. One
> time I bought a phone which had only a well documented way to root it by
> using a specific security hole in a specific OS version.
manufacturer documents a method of rooting, without "holes". Like
clicking on a menu option nine times.
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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
Lu Wei
Feb 29, 2020, 8:04:09 PM2/29/20
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On 2020-2-28 1:13, jetjock wrote:
> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
> > Next question. Did you have any trouble either rooting the phone or
> using it afterwards?
>
I happen to have just rooted my Android tablet. It is relatively easy
> using it afterwards?
>
maybe because it is 4.2.2 version, and adb shell already have root
access -- later I learned that because the ROM is built in "eng" mode,
the props ro.build.type=eng, ro.secure=0, ro.debuggable=1, so adbd will
run as root. I installed a superuser.apk and pushed corresponding su to
system/xbin replacing the original, and get root. I hear that later
Androids and phones may have "lock" and not so easy to root unless
exploiting system bugs.
> Would you recommend doing it? If so, why...if not, why?
>
try a VNC server app, to operate it on my PC. Anyway, If you were just
for fun, you wouldn't ask this question.
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Arlen Holder
Mar 1, 2020, 9:58:33 AM3/1/20
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 09:03:56 +0800, Lu Wei wrote:
> Depends on what you want to do. I rooted that tablet because I want to
> try a VNC server app, to operate it on my PC. Anyway, If you were just
> for fun, you wouldn't ask this question.
One nice thing as root is you can also run smb servers on Android
> Depends on what you want to do. I rooted that tablet because I want to
> try a VNC server app, to operate it on my PC. Anyway, If you were just
> for fun, you wouldn't ask this question.
(instead of just the smb client) and work well with Windows shares.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 1, 2020, 2:44:15 PM3/1/20
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jetjock <jet...@unkown.com> wrote:
> On 29 Feb 2020 14:14:46 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
[...]
> > Hopefully, instead of using a rooting app, you can try to use 'adb'
> >with help of the above mentioned '15 seconds ADB Installer v1.4.3 ADB,
> >Fastboot and Drivers'.
> >
> > N.B. The above mentioned Android Tutorials site also has:
> >
> >'ADB Commands: A Beginners Guide'
> ><https://android.tutorials.how/adb-commands>
> >
> >which - amongst others - documents the adb 'pull' and 'push' commands
> >you will probably need.
> >
> > Good luck.
>
> I have read all of the above links but have not had time yet to
> install either ADB or Fastboot. After I get them installed, would you
> be willing to kind of walk me through the steps to change just the one
> file name I need to? If so, I can post specific questions I may have
> for you here.
Sorry, but I have no experience using 'adb' for these kinds of file
operations, that's why I pointed to the above guide and to Theo's
posting:
<rewind>
> >> > If these "couple of ways" 'only' involves, replacing/deleting a file,
> >> >then there may be simpler, less risky, methods than rooting. See Theo's
> >> >response about using 'adb' in the +/- January 12 thread "Samsung
> >> >MiniDiary app - database copy" in this group.
</rewind>
I used 'adb' for other operations, such as testing the connection, so
I could use it with 'fastboot', booting in recovery mode, etc..
So if you need help, it's probably best to change the 'Subject:' line
to indicate that the subject changed from rooting to using 'adb' to
change a file in the Android file system, so others might be able to
help.
> Many thanks for all your help to this point.
You are welcome.
> On 29 Feb 2020 14:14:46 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
[...]
> > Hopefully, instead of using a rooting app, you can try to use 'adb'
> >with help of the above mentioned '15 seconds ADB Installer v1.4.3 ADB,
> >Fastboot and Drivers'.
> >
> > N.B. The above mentioned Android Tutorials site also has:
> >
> >'ADB Commands: A Beginners Guide'
> ><https://android.tutorials.how/adb-commands>
> >
> >which - amongst others - documents the adb 'pull' and 'push' commands
> >you will probably need.
> >
> > Good luck.
>
> install either ADB or Fastboot. After I get them installed, would you
> be willing to kind of walk me through the steps to change just the one
> file name I need to? If so, I can post specific questions I may have
> for you here.
Sorry, but I have no experience using 'adb' for these kinds of file
operations, that's why I pointed to the above guide and to Theo's
posting:
<rewind>
> >> > If these "couple of ways" 'only' involves, replacing/deleting a file,
> >> >then there may be simpler, less risky, methods than rooting. See Theo's
> >> >response about using 'adb' in the +/- January 12 thread "Samsung
> >> >MiniDiary app - database copy" in this group.
I used 'adb' for other operations, such as testing the connection, so
I could use it with 'fastboot', booting in recovery mode, etc..
So if you need help, it's probably best to change the 'Subject:' line
to indicate that the subject changed from rooting to using 'adb' to
change a file in the Android file system, so others might be able to
help.
> Many thanks for all your help to this point.
You are welcome.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 1, 2020, 3:44:33 PM3/1/20
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jetjock <jet...@unkown.com> wrote:
[...]
> I'm beginning to think that AT&T is watching me and doesn't want me to
> stop that chime!! :-) I tried to install ADB-Setup -1.4.3.exe and it
> fails every time at installing the drivers. The device installation
> wizard gives me:
>
> "ERROR: Invalid command line
> parameter'(myname)\desktop\adb-installer.log'. (there is no log file
> on my desktop)
>
> C:\Users\(myname)\AppData\Local\Temp\7ZipSfx\driver\DPInst_x64.exe
> :installs and uninstalls driver packages.
>
> By default, the tool searches the current directory and tries to
> install all driver packages found.
>
> Usage:
>
> C: (Same path as above) , then it lists all of the / commands that can
> be used."
As far as I remember, I did not need the drivers and the drivers which
were on my Windows 8.1 system were just fine.
So for the moment, ignore the driver issue. And - to be sure - rerun
the installer, but now answer 'N' to the "Do you want to install device
drivers?" question.
> At the bottom is an "OK" button which when clicked shuts the wizard
> down and cancels the installation. The installation command window
> does show "All Done" but I can't find the ADB program anywhere on my
> computer.
This one is easy!
The <https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979> page
says:
"Notes:
System-wide: ADB and Fastboot are installed to %SystemDrive%\adb
directory, and added system-wide path."
Your %SystemDrive% variable is probably set to 'C:\', so adb.exe et al
are in 'C:\adb'. If not, check your %SystemDrive% variable.
> I then tried installing ADB Setup v 1.3 for single user and it
> appeared to install everything (including drivers) fine...BUT I still
> can't find ADB.exe anywhere on my machine.
The same section says:
"Current user only: ADB and Fastboot are installed to %UserProfile%\adb
directory, and added path for current user."
So check what %UserProfile% is set to and check for an 'adb' directory
in that directory.
N.B. I used the system-wide mode and that worked correctly, i.e. in my
case adb.exe et al are in 'C:\adb'. (Just checked again, there are 4
files in the directory, adb.exe, AdbWinApi.dll, AdbWinUsbApi.dll and
fastboot.exe.)
> I'm stumped!
Hopefully now you're 'unstumped'! :-)
[...]
> I'm beginning to think that AT&T is watching me and doesn't want me to
> stop that chime!! :-) I tried to install ADB-Setup -1.4.3.exe and it
> fails every time at installing the drivers. The device installation
> wizard gives me:
>
> "ERROR: Invalid command line
> parameter'(myname)\desktop\adb-installer.log'. (there is no log file
> on my desktop)
>
> C:\Users\(myname)\AppData\Local\Temp\7ZipSfx\driver\DPInst_x64.exe
> :installs and uninstalls driver packages.
>
> By default, the tool searches the current directory and tries to
> install all driver packages found.
>
> Usage:
>
> C: (Same path as above) , then it lists all of the / commands that can
> be used."
As far as I remember, I did not need the drivers and the drivers which
were on my Windows 8.1 system were just fine.
So for the moment, ignore the driver issue. And - to be sure - rerun
the installer, but now answer 'N' to the "Do you want to install device
drivers?" question.
> At the bottom is an "OK" button which when clicked shuts the wizard
> down and cancels the installation. The installation command window
> does show "All Done" but I can't find the ADB program anywhere on my
> computer.
This one is easy!
The <https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979> page
says:
"Notes:
System-wide: ADB and Fastboot are installed to %SystemDrive%\adb
directory, and added system-wide path."
Your %SystemDrive% variable is probably set to 'C:\', so adb.exe et al
are in 'C:\adb'. If not, check your %SystemDrive% variable.
> I then tried installing ADB Setup v 1.3 for single user and it
> appeared to install everything (including drivers) fine...BUT I still
> can't find ADB.exe anywhere on my machine.
The same section says:
"Current user only: ADB and Fastboot are installed to %UserProfile%\adb
directory, and added path for current user."
So check what %UserProfile% is set to and check for an 'adb' directory
in that directory.
N.B. I used the system-wide mode and that worked correctly, i.e. in my
case adb.exe et al are in 'C:\adb'. (Just checked again, there are 4
files in the directory, adb.exe, AdbWinApi.dll, AdbWinUsbApi.dll and
fastboot.exe.)
> I'm stumped!
Hopefully now you're 'unstumped'! :-)
Arlen Holder
Mar 1, 2020, 6:32:02 PM3/1/20
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On 1 Mar 2020 20:44:31 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> As far as I remember, I did not need the drivers and the drivers which
> were on my Windows 8.1 system were just fine.
For the edification of the OP, it has been a while, but I detailed my
> As far as I remember, I did not need the drivers and the drivers which
> were on my Windows 8.1 system were just fine.
experience installing Android Studio (which brings along adb, as you well
know), where the OP "may" benefit from this thread showing what I had to
install for Windows 10.
o Report: My first "hello world" using Android Studio freeware on Windows
worked just fine (in about an hour)
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0/1b5h3r3PBAAJ>
Lu Wei
Mar 2, 2020, 4:14:52 AM3/2/20
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and ftp server does not need root, although more file could be served if
rooted.
Anssi Saari
Mar 2, 2020, 4:48:10 AM3/2/20
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"Carlos E. R." <robin_...@es.invalid> writes:
> On 29/02/2020 14.41, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> jetjock <jet...@example.com> writes:
>>
>>> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
>>> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
>>
>> I have but I've almost always chosen phones that support rooting. One
>> time I bought a phone which had only a well documented way to root it by
>> using a specific security hole in a specific OS version.
>
> Using a hole is not "support rooting".
I know. I never said that. But it is why I said almost always instead of
> On 29/02/2020 14.41, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> jetjock <jet...@example.com> writes:
>>
>>> My question now is, how many here have rooted their Android phones,
>>> and of you, how many are Samsung Galaxy S9+ or similar models?
>>
>> I have but I've almost always chosen phones that support rooting. One
>> time I bought a phone which had only a well documented way to root it by
>> using a specific security hole in a specific OS version.
>
> Using a hole is not "support rooting".
always.
Carlos E. R.
Mar 2, 2020, 6:50:54 AM3/2/20
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On 02/03/2020 10.14, Lu Wei wrote:
> On 2020-3-1 22:58, Arlen Holder wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 09:03:56 +0800, Lu Wei wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on what you want to do. I rooted that tablet because I want to
>>> try a VNC server app, to operate it on my PC. Anyway, If you were just
>>> for fun, you wouldn't ask this question.
>>
>> One nice thing as root is you can also run smb servers on Android
>> (instead of just the smb client) and work well with Windows shares.
>>
> Does it need root to run smb server? I haven't tried it for I use ftp,
> and ftp server does not need root, although more file could be served if
> rooted.
The issue is listening on (attaching to) a low numbered port.
> On 2020-3-1 22:58, Arlen Holder wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 09:03:56 +0800, Lu Wei wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on what you want to do. I rooted that tablet because I want to
>>> try a VNC server app, to operate it on my PC. Anyway, If you were just
>>> for fun, you wouldn't ask this question.
>>
>> One nice thing as root is you can also run smb servers on Android
>> (instead of just the smb client) and work well with Windows shares.
>>
> Does it need root to run smb server? I haven't tried it for I use ftp,
> and ftp server does not need root, although more file could be served if
> rooted.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
Arlen Holder
Mar 2, 2020, 11:30:26 AM3/2/20
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 12:47:54 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> One nice thing as root is you can also run smb servers on Android
>>> (instead of just the smb client) and work well with Windows shares.
>>>
>> Does it need root to run smb server? I haven't tried it for I use ftp,
>> and ftp server does not need root, although more file could be served if
>> rooted.
>
> The issue is listening on (attaching to) a low numbered port.
Carlos is correct, where he and Frank Slootweg, I believe, know this far
>>> One nice thing as root is you can also run smb servers on Android
>>> (instead of just the smb client) and work well with Windows shares.
>>>
>> Does it need root to run smb server? I haven't tried it for I use ftp,
>> and ftp server does not need root, although more file could be served if
>> rooted.
>
> The issue is listening on (attaching to) a low numbered port.
better than I do.
Essentially, as I understand it, it's a Windows limitation that you must be
on ports lower than 1024 to connect via SMB/CIFs.
On Android, as I understand it, you can't run the Android SMB clients on
ports lower than 1024 without being root.
There are more detailed threads on the topic in the archives:
<http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android>
<http://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
nospam
Mar 2, 2020, 11:45:32 AM3/2/20
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In article <r3jcb1$8t7$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
> Essentially, as I understand it, it's a Windows limitation that you must be
> on ports lower than 1024 to connect via SMB/CIFs.
>
> On Android, as I understand it, you can't run the Android SMB clients on
> ports lower than 1024 without being root.
not an issue on ios, which does not require jailbreak for smb server.
so much for your bogus claim that ios is crippled.
yet another thing ios can do that android cannot.
<arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > The issue is listening on (attaching to) a low numbered port.
>
> Carlos is correct, where he and Frank Slootweg, I believe, know this far
> better than I do.
that's a very, very low bar.
> > The issue is listening on (attaching to) a low numbered port.
>
> Carlos is correct, where he and Frank Slootweg, I believe, know this far
> better than I do.
> Essentially, as I understand it, it's a Windows limitation that you must be
> on ports lower than 1024 to connect via SMB/CIFs.
>
> On Android, as I understand it, you can't run the Android SMB clients on
> ports lower than 1024 without being root.
so much for your bogus claim that ios is crippled.
yet another thing ios can do that android cannot.
Arlen Holder
Mar 2, 2020, 3:12:31 PM3/2/20
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 11:45:31 -0500, nospam wrote:
> that's a very, very low bar.
You never miss a chance to prove you own the brain of a child, nospam.
> that's a very, very low bar.
Worse...
You never miss a chance to prove you _never_ post with helpful intent.
o It's simply who you are, nospam.
>> Essentially, as I understand it, it's a Windows limitation that you must be
>> on ports lower than 1024 to connect via SMB/CIFs.
>>
>> On Android, as I understand it, you can't run the Android SMB clients on
>> ports lower than 1024 without being root.
>
> not an issue on ios, which does not require jailbreak for smb server.
doesn't exist so I'll have to check that on my iOS 11 device to see if
you're yet again bullshitting us nospam.
A class A bullshiter is what you have always proven to be.
I sincerely hope you prove me wrong some day on that assessment because
you, of the score of well known worthless apologists, are the only one even
remotely capable of adding value.
I say that with respect for your capabilities, and not for your bullshit.
> so much for your bogus claim that ios is crippled.
o The bad thing about you is it's a coin toss every time you claim anything
It seems you _hate_ Apple lack of functionality so much that you
incessantly brazenly claim functionality that simply doesn't exist.
o Why do Apple Apologists constantly brazenly fabricate what turns out to be wholly imaginary Apple functionality?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/SZfblCIRc9s/BNYMDpdXEgAJ>
> yet another thing ios can do that android cannot.
o Why do the Apple Apologists constantly send poor unsuspecting iOS users on wild goose chases?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/ynh0PE9lK_I/QOiGP4_SFQAJ>
Given your credibility has proven to be utterly worthless, nospam...
o We'll just have to wait for me to test if the toss lands heads or tails.
--
Apologists hate what Apple is so they fabricate imaginary functionality.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 2, 2020, 3:44:36 PM3/2/20
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jetjock <jet...@unkown.com> wrote:
[...]
> So, I gave up and decided to try installing 1.4.3 on my Win 8.1 laptop
> and it worked perfectly (no drivers,system wide). I have the same
> files in the folder that you have (above). Now, the bad news...I found
> "Devices" and when I run it I get:
> * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037*
> * daemon started successfully*
> 58494a3745313498 unauthorized
I think this means that your phone has not authorized the USB
connection.
I.e. step 1 is to tell that the phone allows a USB-connection at all
and step 2 is to authorize *this* particular connection.
There should be some handshake popups on the phone or/and computer,
but I forget what they look like and how they are intiated.
(N.B. From my notes for my Huawei phone it seems that I got a "Allow USB
debugging?" on the *phone* and that tapping OK made the connection.)
So when you try ADB on your computer, have a look at your phone for any
popups.
On my Samsung tablet there is a place in 'Developer options' where you
can 'Revoke USB debugging authorizations', i.e. the exact opposite of
what you need: You first *grant* USB debugging authorization (by these
handshake popups) and later you can *revoke* the authorization(s) from
the phone side.
> Also found the "Push" & "Pull" commands if I ever get my phone
> recognized.
>
> Back to being stumped again! :-)
Hopefully the above 'unstumped' things again.
> BTW the phone is running in developer mode with USB debugging on.
>
> I'm really sorry that this is getting to be a royal PITA. My thanks
> again to all who have posted.
[...]
> So, I gave up and decided to try installing 1.4.3 on my Win 8.1 laptop
> and it worked perfectly (no drivers,system wide). I have the same
> files in the folder that you have (above). Now, the bad news...I found
> "Devices" and when I run it I get:
> * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037*
> * daemon started successfully*
> 58494a3745313498 unauthorized
I think this means that your phone has not authorized the USB
connection.
I.e. step 1 is to tell that the phone allows a USB-connection at all
and step 2 is to authorize *this* particular connection.
There should be some handshake popups on the phone or/and computer,
but I forget what they look like and how they are intiated.
(N.B. From my notes for my Huawei phone it seems that I got a "Allow USB
debugging?" on the *phone* and that tapping OK made the connection.)
So when you try ADB on your computer, have a look at your phone for any
popups.
On my Samsung tablet there is a place in 'Developer options' where you
can 'Revoke USB debugging authorizations', i.e. the exact opposite of
what you need: You first *grant* USB debugging authorization (by these
handshake popups) and later you can *revoke* the authorization(s) from
the phone side.
> Also found the "Push" & "Pull" commands if I ever get my phone
> recognized.
>
> Back to being stumped again! :-)
Hopefully the above 'unstumped' things again.
> BTW the phone is running in developer mode with USB debugging on.
>
> I'm really sorry that this is getting to be a royal PITA. My thanks
> again to all who have posted.
nospam
Mar 2, 2020, 3:46:47 PM3/2/20
to
In article <r3jpbe$cd3$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:
> I never miss a chance to prove I own the brain of a child.
ftfy
>
> >> Essentially, as I understand it, it's a Windows limitation that you must be
> >> on ports lower than 1024 to connect via SMB/CIFs.
> >>
> >> On Android, as I understand it, you can't run the Android SMB clients on
> >> ports lower than 1024 without being root.
> >
> > not an issue on ios, which does not require jailbreak for smb server.
>
> You have a long history of claiming wholly imaginary functionality that
> doesn't exist so I'll have to check that on my iOS 11 device to see if
> you're yet again bullshitting us nospam.
>
> A class A bullshiter is what you have always proven to be.
>
> I sincerely hope you prove me wrong some day on that assessment because
> you, of the score of well known worthless apologists, are the only one even
> remotely capable of adding value.
if you insist.
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lan-drive-samba-server-client/id131772740
4>
LAN Drive is a powerfull and easy SMB server - also known as SAMBA
server - designed for filesharing.
from the app store, no jailbreak required, and not the only one.
<arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:
> I never miss a chance to prove I own the brain of a child.
ftfy
>
> >> Essentially, as I understand it, it's a Windows limitation that you must be
> >> on ports lower than 1024 to connect via SMB/CIFs.
> >>
> >> On Android, as I understand it, you can't run the Android SMB clients on
> >> ports lower than 1024 without being root.
> >
> > not an issue on ios, which does not require jailbreak for smb server.
>
> You have a long history of claiming wholly imaginary functionality that
> doesn't exist so I'll have to check that on my iOS 11 device to see if
> you're yet again bullshitting us nospam.
>
> A class A bullshiter is what you have always proven to be.
>
> I sincerely hope you prove me wrong some day on that assessment because
> you, of the score of well known worthless apologists, are the only one even
> remotely capable of adding value.
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lan-drive-samba-server-client/id131772740
4>
LAN Drive is a powerfull and easy SMB server - also known as SAMBA
server - designed for filesharing.
from the app store, no jailbreak required, and not the only one.
Arlen Holder
Mar 2, 2020, 9:44:41 PM3/2/20
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 15:46:46 -0500, nospam wrote:
>> I never miss a chance to prove I own the brain of a child.
>
> ftfy
What's childish about you, nospam, is you think that's clever.
>> I never miss a chance to prove I own the brain of a child.
>
> ftfy
o nospam insists on proving his brain is that of a child.
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lan-drive-samba-server-client/id1317727404>
> LAN Drive is a powerfull and easy SMB server - also known as SAMBA
> server - designed for filesharing.
> from the app store, no jailbreak required, and not the only one.
If that's freeware, I'll check it out when I get home.
> server - designed for filesharing.
> from the app store, no jailbreak required, and not the only one.
o If not, then it's absolutely worthless as a general purpose solution.
Adults need to be advised that nospam has claimed imaginary functionality
so many times in the past that the only conclusion I can come up with is
that he hates Apple lack of functionality so much that he's forced to
fabricate imaginary functionality whenever someone asks.
He did that with wifi signal strength apps; he did it with YouTube
replacements (the iOS crap he said is like NewPipe is nothing like
NewPipe); he did it with encryption apps, etc.
Given nospam's credibility is worse than the result of a coin toss, we will
have to wait and see if this latest suggestion from the bullshitter par
excellence nospam is gonna pan out or not (where nospam has never posted a
purposefully helpful post in his life).
--
What's odd about apologists is they prove to own the brain of a child.
Anssi Saari
Mar 3, 2020, 4:02:56 AM3/3/20
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Arlen Holder <arlen.geo...@is.invalid> writes:
> As for backing up APKs, I have no problem with the freeware APK backup
> mechanisms, where I put my data on the sd card, so re-installing on a new
> phone (or a factory wipe) is almost trivial.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/hjwRjQWV/homescreen01.jpg>
>
> Even my well honed homescreen is backed up (using Nova free launcher).
> <https://i.postimg.cc/rwdW0vrW/apk01.jpg>
How many apps do you have that have data that you want to back up too?
> As for backing up APKs, I have no problem with the freeware APK backup
> mechanisms, where I put my data on the sd card, so re-installing on a new
> phone (or a factory wipe) is almost trivial.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/hjwRjQWV/homescreen01.jpg>
>
> Even my well honed homescreen is backed up (using Nova free launcher).
> <https://i.postimg.cc/rwdW0vrW/apk01.jpg>
Only Nova Launcher? I stopped counting at 20 which got me through apps
that start with A-G. At a guess then, I have about 50.
nospam
Mar 3, 2020, 6:35:08 AM3/3/20
to
In article <r3kgao$b44$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
the fact is that on ios, smb server does not need jailbreaking.
the price of the app is irrelevant.
<arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lan-drive-samba-server-client/id1317727404>
> > LAN Drive is a powerfull and easy SMB server - also known as SAMBA
> > server - designed for filesharing.
> > from the app store, no jailbreak required, and not the only one.
>
> If that's freeware, I'll check it out when I get home.
goalpost movement.
>
> > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lan-drive-samba-server-client/id1317727404>
> > LAN Drive is a powerfull and easy SMB server - also known as SAMBA
> > server - designed for filesharing.
> > from the app store, no jailbreak required, and not the only one.
>
> If that's freeware, I'll check it out when I get home.
the fact is that on ios, smb server does not need jailbreaking.
the price of the app is irrelevant.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 3, 2020, 9:59:44 AM3/3/20
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jetjock <jet...@unkown.com> wrote:
[...]
> Now, before I do something equally as stupid, would you (or anybody)
> be able to tell me what the next steps would be to open a system file
> explorer on the phone, or with ADB, so I can change a media file on
> the phone? I've tried doing a "cd" to the phone but ADB can't find the
> path. I need to be able to view the system files on the phone so I
> know which one to "pull", change & "push".
As I said before, I've never done this (file replacement) kind of
stuff with ADB.
So hopefully someone else can help. Theo? If no-one responds, perhaps
you can ping Theo.
To try to make things easier, I've changed the 'Subject:'.
Having said that, I *think* you can do:
adb shell
(a $ prompt will appear)
I.e. 'adb shell' without a command.
Hopefully you can then 'browse' the 'root' filesystem and find the
path of the file you need/want to change. I think you can browse the
'root' filesystem without *being* root.
Of course you need some basic Linux/Unix knowledge for that, because
you're now on the Linux level, not Android level. I.e. for example paths
have forward slashes instead of backward ones.
> Man, I wish I was better at this stuff! :-(
Well, with help you have come this far and learned a lot in the
process, so keep at it! :-)
[...]
[...]
> Now, before I do something equally as stupid, would you (or anybody)
> be able to tell me what the next steps would be to open a system file
> explorer on the phone, or with ADB, so I can change a media file on
> the phone? I've tried doing a "cd" to the phone but ADB can't find the
> path. I need to be able to view the system files on the phone so I
> know which one to "pull", change & "push".
As I said before, I've never done this (file replacement) kind of
stuff with ADB.
So hopefully someone else can help. Theo? If no-one responds, perhaps
you can ping Theo.
To try to make things easier, I've changed the 'Subject:'.
Having said that, I *think* you can do:
adb shell
(a $ prompt will appear)
I.e. 'adb shell' without a command.
Hopefully you can then 'browse' the 'root' filesystem and find the
path of the file you need/want to change. I think you can browse the
'root' filesystem without *being* root.
Of course you need some basic Linux/Unix knowledge for that, because
you're now on the Linux level, not Android level. I.e. for example paths
have forward slashes instead of backward ones.
> Man, I wish I was better at this stuff! :-(
Well, with help you have come this far and learned a lot in the
process, so keep at it! :-)
[...]
Arlen Holder
Mar 3, 2020, 10:57:45 AM3/3/20
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 06:35:07 -0500, nospam wrote:
> goalpost movement.
Hi nospam,
You know full well I always espouse general purpose solutions, which are
always freeware since that's the _only_ way to have a general purpose
solution - and in fact - you've played this silly game in the past and we
proved you bullshitted us time and again, nospam.
o Name a single iOS app functionality that you can get for a buck,
that isn't already on Android, for free
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CrYspBnxC8M/I08E2EiWAAAJ>
You even tried your bullshit on us with encryption software, and with the
youtube clones, and with wifi signal strength reporting apps, ad infinitum.
> the fact is that on ios, smb server does not need jailbreaking.
> the price of the app is irrelevant.
I'm not even going to _test_ the app since it's sleazy trialware, where
it's not a general purpose solution so it's worthless.
It likely doesn't even do what you claim since your credibility on facts is
worthless in and of itself.
Nothing you claim nospam, can ever be trusted, because even you don't
believe half of what you say (you count on the ignorance of the person
you're conversing with, as you did with Carlos not knowing what you knew
full well, which is Apple secretly modified the release notes well after
the fact).
> goalpost movement.
Hi nospam,
You know full well I always espouse general purpose solutions, which are
always freeware since that's the _only_ way to have a general purpose
solution - and in fact - you've played this silly game in the past and we
proved you bullshitted us time and again, nospam.
o Name a single iOS app functionality that you can get for a buck,
that isn't already on Android, for free
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/CrYspBnxC8M/I08E2EiWAAAJ>
You even tried your bullshit on us with encryption software, and with the
youtube clones, and with wifi signal strength reporting apps, ad infinitum.
> the fact is that on ios, smb server does not need jailbreaking.
> the price of the app is irrelevant.
it's not a general purpose solution so it's worthless.
It likely doesn't even do what you claim since your credibility on facts is
worthless in and of itself.
Nothing you claim nospam, can ever be trusted, because even you don't
believe half of what you say (you count on the ignorance of the person
you're conversing with, as you did with Carlos not knowing what you knew
full well, which is Apple secretly modified the release notes well after
the fact).
Arlen Holder
Mar 3, 2020, 10:57:45 AM3/3/20
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On 3 Mar 2020 14:59:43 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> As I said before, I've never done this (file replacement) kind of
> stuff with ADB.
I posted a while ago gory details on testing libmtp freeware over USB which
> As I said before, I've never done this (file replacement) kind of
> stuff with ADB.
can certainly easily "find" every file on an unrooted Android phone.
It supposedly can manipulate those files but I didn't get that far as I had
found a better solution for my cross platform problem set at that time.
Let me see if I can dig up the thread, but the worthless trolls latched
onto it instantly, which is like a picnic infested with fleas, so, it may
not be of much use to you.
Ah, here it is, as it doesn't have "libmtp" in the title (and I misspelled
it anyway, as "libtmp", by mistake, which made the search harder):
o Does freeware exist on Windows that will mount (as a drive letter)
Android connected via USB as MTP?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/TaIlIMK2Nuw/OjCcwMDDBAAJ>
Here are some screenshots from that thread, which contains step-by-step
details which "may" help the OP (let us know):
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg>
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9648761dir.jpg>
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=1853998dir02.jpg>
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3316456dir08.jpg>
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6181360dir01.jpg>
etc.
--
Together we can accomplish far more than anyone of us can alone.
Arlen Holder
Mar 3, 2020, 10:57:46 AM3/3/20
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 11:02:55 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> How many apps do you have that have data that you want to back up too?
> Only Nova Launcher? I stopped counting at 20 which got me through apps
> that start with A-G. At a guess then, I have about 50.
Hi Anssi Saari,
> How many apps do you have that have data that you want to back up too?
> Only Nova Launcher? I stopped counting at 20 which got me through apps
> that start with A-G. At a guess then, I have about 50.
Yours is a valid and apropos question, for you don't know my backup
philosopy, so you assumed (understandably so) that I'm like most people;
but I'm not.
So your question isn't really the right question to ask of me, given I have
more apps than most people most likely, but the number of apps isn't the
issue. <https://i.postimg.cc/QtNcky5V/motog702.jpg>
However, to answer your question, I have 750 APKs backed up, where that
translates to about 450 apps, but the number of apps isn't the point, I
think - where I espouse a philosophy of "thinking ahead" whenever I install
& use apps. <https://i.postimg.cc/MZF1VtGK/motog703.jpg>
Hence, I fully comprehend where you are coming from, as you have the common
sentiment of the folks on the other OS newsgroups also (Windows in
particular, but Mac and iOS for sure - but not necessarily Linux).
My backup philosophy is in the minority, and shared mostly only on the
Linux newsgroups, if that.
There are two philosophies, where you embody one & I embody the other:
a. Don't think in the beginning; do all the work in the end.
b. Think a _lot_ in the beginning; and then there's no work in the end.
I have entire threads on this philosophy, so many I can't count them, where
here is just one to give you an idea of how well my philosophy works:
o Philosophy on a tutorial for setting up Windows in a well organized
KISS philosophy such that search is never needed & reinstall is trivial
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/i9Cz3POZFCo/4CFxU96ZCwAJ>
Notice that the EXACT files of the Windows XP menu work on Windows 10!
I don't mean the exact file "structure" as that works also, but the exact
copy of the exact files.
That's how _easy_ a backup can be, if you plan ahead.
o All the work is in the beginning.
It's shocking to me that people don't do this, but I think they don't do it
because all the work is up front, which makes the backup easy, where, on
Windows, for example, very few people seem to realize the WinXP accordion
style cascade menu works PERFECTLY on Windows 10 sans "classic shell":
o Why does anyone bother to install Classic Shell on Windows if all
they want is the WinXP accordion-style sliding cascade Start Menu?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/u0YHG35cE-E/o0zWJ8K9BwAJ>
Having said all that, I do commiserate with you that _lots_ of Android apps
are so poorly written that you can't put their data where you want to put
it (e.g., on /sdcard1/data1/{your common hierchary}).
What I do to surmount that appreciable problem is I try to choose freeware
that allows me to set the directory in which it puts its data.
Notice my method is a lot of thinking up front, with almost no effort in
the back end, where most people's method is a lot of effort in the back end
with almost no thinking up front.
Hence the differences in our philosophies where you're in the majority.
Arlen Holder
Mar 3, 2020, 12:23:54 PM3/3/20
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 10:49:04 -0600, jetjock wrote:
> I almost missed this reply! If I hadn't been so pissed at Arlen
Hi jetjock,
First off, don't blame me for your newsgroup issues; but secondly, I'm
sorry, I didn't realize you didn't want the help I was trying to provide.
Given I was trying to help you but that you feel it wasn't helping you,
I'll instantly back off since I was sincerely trying to help you.
I'll put you on my ignore list and hopefully you won't have to worry.
o Please also put me in your killfile.
That's all you had to do, you know. :)
Thanks!
> I almost missed this reply! If I hadn't been so pissed at Arlen
Hi jetjock,
First off, don't blame me for your newsgroup issues; but secondly, I'm
sorry, I didn't realize you didn't want the help I was trying to provide.
Given I was trying to help you but that you feel it wasn't helping you,
I'll instantly back off since I was sincerely trying to help you.
I'll put you on my ignore list and hopefully you won't have to worry.
o Please also put me in your killfile.
That's all you had to do, you know. :)
Thanks!
Frank Slootweg
Mar 3, 2020, 2:24:54 PM3/3/20
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jetjock <jet...@unkown.com> wrote:
> On 3 Mar 2020 14:59:43 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> I almost missed this reply! If I hadn't been so pissed at Arlen for
> his constantly hijacking threads, I might not have looked at this
> thread. I understand why you changed the subject but maybe next time
> add a "was (old thread)" after the new subject to make it easier to
> spot.
You must have been *really* pissed, because that's exactly what I did:
<rewind>
Subject: ADB file find/replacement help needed. (was: Rooting my Galaxy 9+)
</rewind>
Because I used '(was: <old_subject>)' (note '(was: ...)', not just
'was'), your apparently compliant newsreader (Forte Agent 6.00)
correctly stripped the '(was: <old_subject>)' part when you replied.
Note that when you viewed *my* posting, your newsreader should show the
'(was: <old_subject>)'.
Probably the real cause that you almost missed my post, is that -
because of limited space - your newsreader only shows part of the
'Subject:' line and therefor you couldn't see the '(was: Rooting my
Galaxy 9+)' part.
For example my newsreader (tin) only shows
ADB file find/replacement help needed. (was
while viewing the article and even one character less when viewing the
list of (new) articles.
I thought about leaving the 'find/' out of the new subject, but AFAICT
your main problem is *finding* (the path and name of) the file you need
to replace. Once you know the path and file name, *replacing* the
(content of) the file should be easy.
> That said, I REALLY appreciate you sticking with me through all this!
> I'll give your suggestions a try and post back results. Thanks again.
To be continued! :-)
> On 3 Mar 2020 14:59:43 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> his constantly hijacking threads, I might not have looked at this
> thread. I understand why you changed the subject but maybe next time
> add a "was (old thread)" after the new subject to make it easier to
> spot.
You must have been *really* pissed, because that's exactly what I did:
<rewind>
Subject: ADB file find/replacement help needed. (was: Rooting my Galaxy 9+)
</rewind>
Because I used '(was: <old_subject>)' (note '(was: ...)', not just
'was'), your apparently compliant newsreader (Forte Agent 6.00)
correctly stripped the '(was: <old_subject>)' part when you replied.
Note that when you viewed *my* posting, your newsreader should show the
'(was: <old_subject>)'.
Probably the real cause that you almost missed my post, is that -
because of limited space - your newsreader only shows part of the
'Subject:' line and therefor you couldn't see the '(was: Rooting my
Galaxy 9+)' part.
For example my newsreader (tin) only shows
ADB file find/replacement help needed. (was
while viewing the article and even one character less when viewing the
list of (new) articles.
I thought about leaving the 'find/' out of the new subject, but AFAICT
your main problem is *finding* (the path and name of) the file you need
to replace. Once you know the path and file name, *replacing* the
(content of) the file should be easy.
> That said, I REALLY appreciate you sticking with me through all this!
> I'll give your suggestions a try and post back results. Thanks again.
To be continued! :-)
nospam
Mar 3, 2020, 3:18:46 PM3/3/20
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In article <r3lupp$cvu$3...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
been spewing was bullshit.
and there's nothing to test anyway. it's an smb server app, exactly
what it says in its description, and doesn't need a jailbreak.
it's also not the only such app.
<arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > the fact is that on ios, smb server does not need jailbreaking.
> > the price of the app is irrelevant.
>
> I'm not even going to _test_ the app since it's sleazy trialware, where
> it's not a general purpose solution so it's worthless.
of course you won't, because then you'd have to admit everything you've
> > the fact is that on ios, smb server does not need jailbreaking.
> > the price of the app is irrelevant.
>
> I'm not even going to _test_ the app since it's sleazy trialware, where
> it's not a general purpose solution so it's worthless.
been spewing was bullshit.
and there's nothing to test anyway. it's an smb server app, exactly
what it says in its description, and doesn't need a jailbreak.
it's also not the only such app.
Arlen Holder
Mar 3, 2020, 9:06:27 PM3/3/20
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 14:37:44 -0600, jetjock wrote:
> What I saw
> was Arlen's useless drivel without the "was"
Look jetcock,
o *Stop being an instant whiny utterly helpless bitchy asshole jetcock.*
Just stop it.
o Own up to your own problems and don't blame your problems on me.
Your inability to use a newsreader has nothing to do with the fact I was
sincerely trying to help you jetcock
If you want to be an asshole, be one jetcock
o But stop blaming the fact you can't even use a newsreader, on me.
Be a man, jetcock.
o Not a whiny asshole that you seem to be jetcock
Just stop it.
o Kill file me and stop your whiny bitching about your newsreader problems.
You can't even use a news reader and you complain about my posts causing
your problems jetcock
Just stop it.
o If you can't even use a newsreader, then you'll never comprehend adb.
But stop blaming me for _your_ inability to use something as trivial as a
newsreader, jetcock.
Just stop it.
o I'll ignore you and you ignore me jetcock.
Act like a man, and not a little whiny bitch, jetcock.
o Own up to your own problems and don't blame your problems on me.
> What I saw
> was Arlen's useless drivel without the "was"
Look jetcock,
o *Stop being an instant whiny utterly helpless bitchy asshole jetcock.*
Just stop it.
o Own up to your own problems and don't blame your problems on me.
Your inability to use a newsreader has nothing to do with the fact I was
sincerely trying to help you jetcock
If you want to be an asshole, be one jetcock
o But stop blaming the fact you can't even use a newsreader, on me.
Be a man, jetcock.
o Not a whiny asshole that you seem to be jetcock
Just stop it.
o Kill file me and stop your whiny bitching about your newsreader problems.
You can't even use a news reader and you complain about my posts causing
your problems jetcock
Just stop it.
o If you can't even use a newsreader, then you'll never comprehend adb.
But stop blaming me for _your_ inability to use something as trivial as a
newsreader, jetcock.
Just stop it.
o I'll ignore you and you ignore me jetcock.
Act like a man, and not a little whiny bitch, jetcock.
o Own up to your own problems and don't blame your problems on me.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 4, 2020, 9:24:50 AM3/4/20
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jetjock <jet...@unkown.com> wrote:
> On 3 Mar 2020 19:24:53 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
[...]
> several YouTube videos, and have gotten as far as the ls -1 Linux
> command and being able to find all the stuff on my phone. The sticker
> is, I can't find a folder under system that looks like it would
> contain audio files. So now I'm trying to find a command that will
> search my entire phone for .ogg and .wav files. When I try the find
> *.ogg command at the $ prompt, it says "No such file or directory".
> Any suggestions?
Assuming you are in the root directory ('/') or at least somewhere
near the top of the tree, try:
find . '*.ogg'
Note the '.' between 'find' and the argument. This construct is needed
to do a recursive 'find', i.e. search the whole tree starting at
whatever is your current directory.
Try the command both with single quotes (as above) and with dounble
quotes, i.e.
find . "*.ogg"
The point is that you want to pass the '*' to the 'find' command and
let the 'find' command interpret/handle the '*', instead of letting the
shell expand it and then pass the/any resulting names to the 'find'
command.
N.B. That you got "No such file or directory" is actually a good
thing, because it more or less confirms that the 'find' command exists
and shows that there are no .ogg files in your current directory.
For example my current directory has no .ogg files and hence:
$ find *.ogg
find: '*.ogg': No such file or directory
To be sure that the 'find' command exists, you could do:
find -help
Good luck.
> On 3 Mar 2020 19:24:53 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
[...]
> > I thought about leaving the 'find/' out of the new subject, but AFAICT
> >your main problem is *finding* (the path and name of) the file you need
> >to replace. Once you know the path and file name, *replacing* the
> >(content of) the file should be easy.
>
> You are exactly right. I have been playing around in ADB and watching
> >your main problem is *finding* (the path and name of) the file you need
> >to replace. Once you know the path and file name, *replacing* the
> >(content of) the file should be easy.
>
> several YouTube videos, and have gotten as far as the ls -1 Linux
> command and being able to find all the stuff on my phone. The sticker
> is, I can't find a folder under system that looks like it would
> contain audio files. So now I'm trying to find a command that will
> search my entire phone for .ogg and .wav files. When I try the find
> *.ogg command at the $ prompt, it says "No such file or directory".
> Any suggestions?
Assuming you are in the root directory ('/') or at least somewhere
near the top of the tree, try:
find . '*.ogg'
Note the '.' between 'find' and the argument. This construct is needed
to do a recursive 'find', i.e. search the whole tree starting at
whatever is your current directory.
Try the command both with single quotes (as above) and with dounble
quotes, i.e.
find . "*.ogg"
The point is that you want to pass the '*' to the 'find' command and
let the 'find' command interpret/handle the '*', instead of letting the
shell expand it and then pass the/any resulting names to the 'find'
command.
N.B. That you got "No such file or directory" is actually a good
thing, because it more or less confirms that the 'find' command exists
and shows that there are no .ogg files in your current directory.
For example my current directory has no .ogg files and hence:
$ find *.ogg
find: '*.ogg': No such file or directory
To be sure that the 'find' command exists, you could do:
find -help
Good luck.
Arlen Holder
Mar 4, 2020, 1:56:01 PM3/4/20
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 10:39:07 -0600, jetjock wrote:
> Please take your childish behavior and start a new thread since none
> of your crap remotely has anything to do with my question. I'm really
> sick of you constantly hijacking threads to carry on your childish
> feuds with whomever is dumb enough to bicker with you!
FACT:
You blamed your inability to use something as simple as a newsreader on me!
ASSESSMENT:
The fact you can't even use a newsreader is not my fault, jetcock.
Do us all a favor, jetcock, and simply plonk me so that I never have to
deal again with your whiny bitching about _your_ inability to use something
as trivial as a newsreader again.
IMHO, there's _zero_ chance you'll _ever_ get adb to work, jetcock.
o You can't even use a newsreader - and you blame _that_ on me!
--
Those are facts you can't deny because they're easily proven facts.
> Please take your childish behavior and start a new thread since none
> of your crap remotely has anything to do with my question. I'm really
> sick of you constantly hijacking threads to carry on your childish
> feuds with whomever is dumb enough to bicker with you!
FACT:
You blamed your inability to use something as simple as a newsreader on me!
ASSESSMENT:
The fact you can't even use a newsreader is not my fault, jetcock.
Do us all a favor, jetcock, and simply plonk me so that I never have to
deal again with your whiny bitching about _your_ inability to use something
as trivial as a newsreader again.
IMHO, there's _zero_ chance you'll _ever_ get adb to work, jetcock.
o You can't even use a newsreader - and you blame _that_ on me!
--
Those are facts you can't deny because they're easily proven facts.
Arlen Holder
Mar 4, 2020, 4:04:40 PM3/4/20
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 15:18:45 -0500, nospam wrote:
> of course you won't, because then you'd have to admit everything you've
> been spewing was bullshit.
>
> and there's nothing to test anyway. it's an smb server app, exactly
> what it says in its description, and doesn't need a jailbreak.
>
> it's also not the only such app.
Hi nospam,
> of course you won't, because then you'd have to admit everything you've
> been spewing was bullshit.
>
> and there's nothing to test anyway. it's an smb server app, exactly
> what it says in its description, and doesn't need a jailbreak.
>
> it's also not the only such app.
You do realize we _tested_ the iOS SMB apps in the past, don't you?
Remember?
HINT: You participated on that discussion, nospam.
Do you need me to refresh your memory, nospam?
--
HINT: It's still on my iOS iPad from the last test.
nospam
Mar 4, 2020, 5:36:42 PM3/4/20
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In article <r3p557$ln0$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
without a jailbreak.
since you are arguing against that, you must not have done much
testing, if anything.
<arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:
> You do realize we _tested_ the iOS SMB apps in the past, don't you?
then you should know that an smb server on ios is easily done and
> You do realize we _tested_ the iOS SMB apps in the past, don't you?
without a jailbreak.
since you are arguing against that, you must not have done much
testing, if anything.
Arlen Holder
Mar 4, 2020, 9:40:01 PM3/4/20
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On Wed, 04 Mar 2020 17:36:41 -0500, nospam wrote:
>> You do realize we _tested_ the iOS SMB apps in the past, don't you?
>
> then you should know that an smb server on ios is easily done and
> without a jailbreak.
>
> since you are arguing against that, you must not have done much
> testing, if anything.
Hi nospam,
>> You do realize we _tested_ the iOS SMB apps in the past, don't you?
>
> then you should know that an smb server on ios is easily done and
> without a jailbreak.
>
> since you are arguing against that, you must not have done much
> testing, if anything.
Unfortunately, the solutions offered by iOS fail almost all sensible tests.
o I _wish_ iOS had a general purpose solution; but the fact is it does not.
Remember, we _tested_ all the available SMB apps on iOS a year ago, nospam!
In fact:
I'm the one who told _you_ apologists about _that_ exact program, nospam!
o *It's crippleware* (i.e., severely crippled in speed)
o It's *adware* (with the "most obnoxious" ads of all SMB tools tested!)
o It's trialware besides.
As you are well aware, I post so many general purpose solutions that even I
can't count them, there are _that_ many freeware based solutions I post.
That iOS app is not only crippleware, it's adware, and trialware besides.
o Hence, it's worthless as a general purpose solution. Period.
Remember, I'm the one who told _you_ about that app, long ago, nospam!
o Do you know of a free iOS SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/oln0tjMCRYw/UtlUey5UDgAJ>
Here's a screenshot of a current review (on which I concur):
<https://i.postimg.cc/W3XzCGbZ/smb01.jpg>
"Basically useless."
"to make matters worse, you cannot switch to another app."
"Oh and the app has a ton of annoying ads too, of course."
"I concur with previous reviewer that Apple should not allow
this kind of deceitful practices on their App Store."
etc.
In summary, it's worthless as a general purpose solution.
Below is, verbatim, the contents of my test a year ago of this tool:
(HINT: Nothing has likely changed in the interim: read the reviews.)
== == == verbatim cut-and-paste of that one post == == ==
UPDATE:
The reason I held back on the "little secret" was I was testing the
Apologists, who, _always_ fail the simple three-word fact test:
o Name Just One
Since they can't "name just one", I'll name the _best_ there is on iOS.
Unless new, facts arise, yet again, iOS apps prove to be anachronistic.
I guess I should have expected iOS to fail even the simplest of tests.
But I was hoping (beyond hope?) that someone here knew more than I did.
o I never claim to be even average on iOS knowledge overall,
o And yet, it seems that I know far more than any of you apparently do
That's sad that _clearly_ know far more than the Apologists do!
Really sad.
*It doesn't mean I know a lot; it means Apologists know absolutely
nothing!*
Alas, the _best_ anyone can offer, apparently, is speed-limited
crippleware:
Searching for a tenth SMB app to test, I found this:
o LAN drive SAMBA Server Client
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lan-drive-samba-server/id1317727404>
The advertising says
"LAN Drive is a powerful and easy SMB server - also known as SAMBA server"
"TRIAL version : *Limited bandwith to 0.5 MB/s*"
o This app has the most obnoxious ads of all the related apps tested
o Later on in the app itself, it tells us to buy the faster speeds for $4
The good news is that version 5.2, released on 1/19/2019 (only a few days
ago) "says" they added support for SMBv2.
Doublechecking the version number in Settings > General > iPad Storage
the version comes up as "LAN drive, Version 5.3, Webrox".
1. I start the app and press the "SMB Client" button on the bottom.
2. I press the "+" sign which brings up a form containing fields for
Device Name or IP address = 192.168.1.10
User name = arlen
Password = arlen
TCP Port = 445
Netbios UDB Port = 137
3. I press "Save"
4. I press on the newly created line for that machine
5. Up shows all the SMBv1 shares
6. I press on the "public" share, and its files show up beautifully.
(A blinking line keeps saying: "Trial version: Slow speed at 0.5MB/s"
("Buy the app to transfer 100x faster.")
Doublechecking with the Android phone, it connects to SMBv2 shares.
In summary, since we're always seeking a general solution which works
instantly for everyone around the world, this is the _best_ solution so
far that doesn't involve putting your personal files on the Internet.
Sure, it's crippleware - but - it's the only iOS solution (so far) that is
known to work.
If you know of a free non-crippleware iOS SMBv2 client, let us know.
o Name just one
== == == verbatim cut-and-paste of that one post == == ==
--
Only 2 kinds of people are on Usenet: Those adding value & those who can't.
nospam
Mar 5, 2020, 6:47:51 AM3/5/20
to
In article <r3poq0$hrt$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:
> o I _wish_ iOS had a general purpose solution; but the fact is it does not.
no matter what ios can do, you will claim it's crap.
> o I _wish_ iOS had a general purpose solution; but the fact is it does not.
Arlen Holder
Mar 5, 2020, 8:01:01 AM3/5/20
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On Thu, 05 Mar 2020 06:47:51 -0500, nospam wrote:
>> o I _wish_ iOS had a general purpose solution; but the fact is it does not.
>
> no matter what ios can do, you will claim it's crap.
I always said you, of all apologists, actually _do_ know iOS well!
>> o I _wish_ iOS had a general purpose solution; but the fact is it does not.
>
> no matter what ios can do, you will claim it's crap.
--
Those who love iOS love the mere _illusion_ of functionality Apple markets.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 5, 2020, 2:18:15 PM3/5/20
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jetjock <jet...@unkown.com> wrote:
> On 4 Mar 2020 14:24:49 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> Well that find command worked...sort of. When I used it on the
> "System" folder it listed a whole bunch of /app/....
> Example: /app/SoundPicker/SoundPicker.apk
> Then it said no such file or directory. I tried both .wav & .ogg and
> got the same with both. When I use it on the whole phone it took a few
> minutes and it pulled up a whole bunch of stuff...mostly the same as
> above but a lot of "permission denied" stuff. Still finished with no
> such file or directory.
Oops! Because you got a 'No such file or directory' error, which you
should not get, I had another look and did some more tests.
I found that I apparently made a mistake when copying the commands
which I tried to my posting.
The commands *should* have been:
find . -name '*.ogg'
and
find . -name "*.ogg"
I.e. with '-name' before the '*.ogg' c.q. "*.ogg" part.
Without '-name', the 'find' command tries to interpret the (second)
parameter as its expression. In some cases that *might* work, but to be
sure the 'find' command interprets '*.ogg' c.q. "*.ogg" as a pattern of
files to find, the '-name' test should be specified.
So you should probably retry with these correct commands. (And don't
forget the '.' (meaning start in the current directory) between 'find'
and '-name'.)
> This has been a very educational adventure in which I have learned a
> lot. I guess what I need to do now is see if I can't find out
> somewhere exactly what & where that startup chime is, I had found
> earlier that someone said to: Open a root explorer, go to
> /system/media/audio/ui Rename PowerOn.ogg to PowerOn.ogg.disabled
> but since I can't find any of this
You *did* find the /system/media/audio/ui directory itself, didn't
you?
I think this is a standard directory, because my Huawei phone also has
it. (No there's no PowerOn.ogg or similar in there.)
(N.B. I have an old (now withdrawn) file explorer app (ES File
Explorer), which can see (but not change) (part of?) the root file
system, hence I can see this directory.)
BTW, my Samsung *tablet* (not phone) also has the directory
/system/media/audio/ui, but again no PowerOn.ogg or similar file in
there.
To lift your spirit, my Samsung tablet also has some power-on chime,
but I did not see the audio file in the obvious places either! :-)
> I guess I'm stuck for now. At least
> I'm not stumped anymore, thanks to you!! :-)
Indeed, stuck is better than stumped and perhaps with my above
corrections/comments, you get unstuck. You never know! :-)
> On 4 Mar 2020 14:24:49 GMT, Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid>
> "System" folder it listed a whole bunch of /app/....
> Example: /app/SoundPicker/SoundPicker.apk
> Then it said no such file or directory. I tried both .wav & .ogg and
> got the same with both. When I use it on the whole phone it took a few
> minutes and it pulled up a whole bunch of stuff...mostly the same as
> above but a lot of "permission denied" stuff. Still finished with no
> such file or directory.
Oops! Because you got a 'No such file or directory' error, which you
should not get, I had another look and did some more tests.
I found that I apparently made a mistake when copying the commands
which I tried to my posting.
The commands *should* have been:
find . -name '*.ogg'
and
find . -name "*.ogg"
I.e. with '-name' before the '*.ogg' c.q. "*.ogg" part.
Without '-name', the 'find' command tries to interpret the (second)
parameter as its expression. In some cases that *might* work, but to be
sure the 'find' command interprets '*.ogg' c.q. "*.ogg" as a pattern of
files to find, the '-name' test should be specified.
So you should probably retry with these correct commands. (And don't
forget the '.' (meaning start in the current directory) between 'find'
and '-name'.)
> This has been a very educational adventure in which I have learned a
> lot. I guess what I need to do now is see if I can't find out
> somewhere exactly what & where that startup chime is, I had found
> earlier that someone said to: Open a root explorer, go to
> /system/media/audio/ui Rename PowerOn.ogg to PowerOn.ogg.disabled
> but since I can't find any of this
You *did* find the /system/media/audio/ui directory itself, didn't
you?
I think this is a standard directory, because my Huawei phone also has
it. (No there's no PowerOn.ogg or similar in there.)
(N.B. I have an old (now withdrawn) file explorer app (ES File
Explorer), which can see (but not change) (part of?) the root file
system, hence I can see this directory.)
BTW, my Samsung *tablet* (not phone) also has the directory
/system/media/audio/ui, but again no PowerOn.ogg or similar file in
there.
To lift your spirit, my Samsung tablet also has some power-on chime,
but I did not see the audio file in the obvious places either! :-)
> I guess I'm stuck for now. At least
> I'm not stumped anymore, thanks to you!! :-)
Indeed, stuck is better than stumped and perhaps with my above
corrections/comments, you get unstuck. You never know! :-)
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