iViewer for Android - Beta Release

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Jarrod Bell

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Feb 27, 2012, 3:40:25 AM2/27/12
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Hey Everyone,

The moment a LOT of you have been waiting for - iViewer for Android has reached public beta!

This is the first public beta of iViewer for Android. As a beta product, it is not considered release quality and you SHOULD NOT deploy it at customer sites.

This beta runs on Android devices running Android OS version 2.3 and up. It has been tested on few Android devices running 2.3.x and 3.x.


Checkout this google doc for a lot more info, including how to install iViewer on your Android device:

The download URL to use is in section 2 "Installing iViewer on your Android device"

Jarrod

Sgt.Slaughter

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Feb 27, 2012, 9:35:58 AM2/27/12
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you! looking forward to this obviously. :)

On Feb 27, 3:40 am, Jarrod Bell <jar...@guilink.com> wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
>
> The moment a LOT of you have been waiting for - iViewer for Android has
> reached public beta!
>
> *This is the first public beta of iViewer for Android. As a beta product,
> it is not considered release quality and you SHOULD NOT deploy it at
> customer sites.
>
> This beta runs on Android devices running Android OS version 2.3 and up. It
> has been tested on few Android devices running 2.3.x and 3.x.*
> *
> *
> Checkout this google doc for a lot more info, including how to install
> iViewer on your Android device:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ffP9jQR_PUZW3G5eeQJ5gQZlO7TS7gtc...
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Sgt.Slaughter

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Feb 27, 2012, 9:57:50 AM2/27/12
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just wanted to make a note that if you have DroidViewer installed from
the previous beta you must uninstall it first as iViewer will just not
install with it still in system even though they are different app
names. I tried and had to uninstall the previous one first...

Also I had to submit a report as when i submitted my email in the app
and clicked submit after it did this it crashed and gave me the report
feature to send in which is what i did. the report sent fine as i got
the automated email back showing my application.

I assume if I have multiple devices I can install it on those and use
the same email or must I create a different email for each device I
want to test on? have EVO3D, EVO4G, and KindleFire I'd like to test
this on...

btw jw why the decision to use iViewer for the name instead of
DroidViewer or something else non iPhone related?

Florent Pillet

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Feb 27, 2012, 10:46:32 AM2/27/12
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The name is not definitive, we're using it to stay in sync with the iOS version.

It's true that there may be a conflict with the previous version, although these are two very different applications (the new version is a complete rewrite as the previous one was not satisfying our long-term requirements).

Some devices may exhibit crashes right at startup, it's often some trivial issue that will be solved in the next build, due out very quickly now. We're collecting crash reports from a variety of devices which gives us a good overview of the landscape.

Florent

Envoyé de mon iPhone

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Sgt.Slaughter

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Feb 27, 2012, 12:41:22 PM2/27/12
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According to the document were to submit everything on github issue
wise correct? Or should we first check here before reporting there?

Have an issue where it doesn't seem any images are being loaded on the
device. all I see is text for buttons and such. Even tried just doing
a very basic from scratch layout with the new guiDesigner after having
the issue using the previous made templates with the DroidViewer Beta
and wanted to rule out them being the problem.

I also noticed the "reload GUI" doesn't really re-sync with the
guidesigner when you do it, instead it just refreshes the already
loaded gui basically. The only way to reload the gui is to go back to
the server address and change it there and thatll trigger it. And
still doing this I can't get any images to load on the device just
text from buttons.

What I was trying to do and the reason for reloading it, is im trying
to get the http commands set up for DIRECTV box control. I know the
TCP ones work fine but I haven't been able to get HTTP ones to
function so far at all. I tested them in the browser and they work
fine.

Example:
HTTP command: 192.168.1.2:8080/remote/processKey?key=menu
TCP command: GET /remote/processKey?key=menu HTTP/1.1\x0D\x0AHOST:
192.168.1.2:8080\x0D\x0A\x0D\x0A

The system properties for the HTTP one are the exact same as the ones
for TCP with the exception of "HTTP" being selected as the protocol. I
even tried changing the Heartbeat mode from "Replay" to the others and
still couldn't get it to work with HTTP command...Again putting this
in the browser address to test shows it functions fine.

I remember HTTP wasn't working in the Droidviewer beta now that I
recall, is that still the case?

-Jase


On Feb 27, 10:46 am, Florent Pillet <fpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The name is not definitive, we're using it to stay in sync with the iOS version.
>
> It's true that there may be a conflict with the previous version, although these are two very different applications (the new version is a complete rewrite as the previous one was not satisfying our long-term requirements).
>
> Some devices may exhibit crashes right at startup, it's often some trivial issue that will be solved in the next build, due out very quickly now. We're collecting crash reports from a variety of devices which gives us a good overview of the landscape.
>
> Florent
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>

Florent Pillet

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Feb 27, 2012, 1:36:49 PM2/27/12
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Please open a new bug on GitHub, and attach a test GUI you are having issues
with. The issue with loading your images may very well come from a problem
accessing the assets subfolder, we'd like to check the exact configuration you
are using.

Reload GUI is known to work, but again there may be an issue specific to your
GUI configuration that we have not seen during internal testing.

Also, forget everything you assumed with the previous droidViewer beta, as the
new beta really is a new application (complete rewrite). Please open a separate
bug for HTTP type systems, this system type was tested as working but there
may be an issue that escaped testing -- we'll figure this out with your test GUI.

Thanks for your feedback,
Florent
Florent Pillet


Joep van den Aker

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Feb 27, 2012, 2:01:17 PM2/27/12
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Tested it with a Samsung smartphone and worked right away. Just the resolution is the only 'problem'.
The tested project was made for an iPhone and didn't fit the screen of the Samsung.

Sgt.Slaughter

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Feb 27, 2012, 3:15:34 PM2/27/12
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Florent,

I submitted the bugs and ended up putting links to get the files off
my dropbox since I saw nowhere to attach the files on github issue
report.

I also mistakenly seem to of NOT attached the 2 issue reports to the
milestone nor put tag's on them. Though going back through it, it
doesn't seem to even of been an option for me to do less I missed it
somehow...

-thanks,

Jase

On Feb 27, 1:36 pm, Florent Pillet <fpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please open a new bug on GitHub, and attach a test GUI you are having issues
> with. The issue with loading your images may very well come from a problem
> accessing the assets subfolder, we'd like to check the exact configuration
> you
> are using.
>
> Reload GUI is known to work, but again there may be an issue specific to
> your
> GUI configuration that we have not seen during internal testing.
>
> Also, forget everything you assumed with the previous droidViewer beta, as
> the
> new beta really is a new application (complete rewrite). Please open a
> separate
> bug for HTTP type systems, this system type was tested as working but there
> may be an issue that escaped testing -- we'll figure this out with your
> test GUI.
>
> Thanks for your feedback,
> Florent
>

Sandro

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Feb 27, 2012, 3:53:03 PM2/27/12
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The encrypted project give error:

At line 1, column1: not well-formed (invalid token) message.

Bye
Sandro

Sandro

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Feb 27, 2012, 4:27:54 PM2/27/12
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another possible bug.

My Bticino System close every 30 seconds the connection. I need to
keep alive and resend the startup command every 30 seconds.

Bye
Sandro

Florent Pillet

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Feb 27, 2012, 5:36:07 PM2/27/12
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Can you give us more information / context about this issue ?

Florent

On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Sandro wrote:

> another possible bug.
>
> My Bticino System close every 30 seconds the connection. I need to
> keep alive and resend the startup command every 30 seconds.
>
> Bye
> Sandro

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Florent Pillet

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Feb 27, 2012, 5:36:35 PM2/27/12
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Where / how do you get this error? Does iViewer display an alert box?

Florent

On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Sandro wrote:

> The encrypted project give error:
>
> At line 1, column1: not well-formed (invalid token) message.
>
> Bye
> Sandro

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Sandro

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Feb 27, 2012, 5:49:14 PM2/27/12
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I recovered my gitthub user, and next issue will post here.

For this.

The Bticino / Legrand commands connections hase the following step

1) Client start with x startup command
2) Server respond ack
3) Client send the command for light on (e.g.)
....
if the server don't receive others whitin 30 seconds close connection.

For redue all, normally my iOs gui restart the 1) 2) 3) step.

I solved with a setinterval function that send a status command every
25 seconds.

Bye
Sandro

Florent Pillet

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Feb 27, 2012, 6:06:45 PM2/27/12
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Ok I see so to make things clear, what you're seeing is that failing any data
being sent over the wire, there is a 30 second timeout after which you see
the connection automatically close?

If that's the case, think I know where this comes from. Will be solved in next
beta.

Thanks for the feedback,
Florent

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Sandro

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Feb 27, 2012, 6:11:48 PM2/27/12
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You're welcome.

You understood clear.
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Sgt.Slaughter

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Any plans to make Android devices auto resize to fit the screen?

Or is this a change that would have to be done with the gui designer
or not possible b/c the size of the images and such that are loaded
are set in the gui designer?

-Jase

Florent Pillet

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Yes we have plans to provide autoscaling, don't think we can avoid it due to the wide variety of Android device screen sizes out there. Although for integrators, we would highly recommend standardizing on the hardware platform of your choice to avoid any inconsistencies in design that could result from a machine- scaled GUI. Also think about JavaScript code that manipulates screen locations, even though we can scale coordinates both ways, rounding errors could introduce minor differences breaking the pixel-perfect alignments in you GUIs.

Florent

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Marco Zorzy

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how to upgrate to last jquery framework ?

Florent Pillet

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What exactly do you mean by this?

Florent

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> how to upgrate to last jquery framework ?
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Now in android viewer you use jquery framework 1.8.11 , last relase is
1.8.18
So ther is , or will be , a way to upgrade the framework to last
build , maybe more fast / bug free ?
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Florent Pillet

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jQuery is only used in iViewer by the Remote Debugging interface. When you run your code on the device,
there is nothing else than your code loaded by iViewer. The version of jQuery that we use should be of
no concern no you, especially as we encapsulate it all in a private property of the CF variable / namespace.

Don't use our jQuery in your scripts, they will break when running standalone on the device. If you need
jQuery, include it in your JavaScript, there should be no conflict with the version we are using.

Florent

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> Now in android viewer you use jquery framework 1.8.11 , last relase is
> 1.8.18
> So ther is , or will be , a way to upgrade the framework to last
> build , maybe more fast / bug free ?

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On Apr 17, 2:33 pm, Florent Pillet <fpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The version of jQuery that we use should be of
> no concern no you, especially as we encapsulate it all in a private property of the CF variable / namespace.

agree, but please also keep it update, new version are (an so your
viewer will) better (faster) ;-)

Florent Pillet

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Sure, will do!

On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Marco Zorzy wrote:

> agree, but please also keep it update, new version are (an so your
> viewer will) better (faster) ;-)

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Marco Zorzy

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other issue.
i use webpage tool (w) to open an local page

code:

  <page name="testtpage" j="0" transition="" subtype="" time="0" ease="" start="1">
    <portrait />
    <landscape>
      <subpage name="webtest" x="0" y="0" j="0" transition1="None" subtype1="None" time1="0" ease1="" transition2="None" subtype2="None" time2="0" ease2="" clickthrough="0" topmost="0" v="1" l="0" />
    </landscape>
  </page>
  <subpage name="webtest" w="800" h="600" clip="1">
    <web x="5" y="5" w="790" h="590" j="0" title="0" back="0" forward="0" refresh="0" stop="0" url="./webhtml/index.html" />
  </subpage>

so on ipod it iviewer load index.html, on tablet i have :
"Loading http://./webhtml/index.html failed"

how to load local page ?

Jarrod Bell

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Please post this issue to the github issue tracker for our android beta.

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Florent Pillet

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I think this technique would not even work on iViewer for iOS -- but it is an interesting request. We will consider adding this.

Florent
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Michael

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Hello
When is the next BETA version to be expected?
Regards
Michael

Florent Pillet

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May 31, 2012, 6:32:15 AM5/31/12
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Soon. Sorry for the delay.

Michael

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Hallo Florent,

No problem. I'm very curious, because the target is not more far.

Regards
Michael

Marco Zorzy

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Il giorno giovedì 31 maggio 2012 12:32:15 UTC+2, Florent Pillet ha scritto:
Soon. Sorry for the delay.

Michael

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Whats mean "soon"?

Regards Michael

Nadim Awan

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A point in time in the future that has not been defined

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> Whats mean "soon"?
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Michael

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Hello Nadim.
Is it possible  a little bit to narrow  the point in time in the future.
Regards Michael


Am Montag, 9. Juli 2012 21:14:12 UTC+2 schrieb vmail:
A point in time in the future that has not been defined

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Nadim Awan

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Not with commandFusion. It's a bit like going to the shop and asking for a long wait

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Hello Nadim.
Is it possible  a little bit to narrow  the point in time in the future.
Regards Michael

Am Montag, 9. Juli 2012 21:14:12 UTC+2 schrieb vmail:
A point in time in the future that has not been defined

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Marco Zorzy

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Skywalker

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Hello.

I´d like to try the iViewer in my Motorola Xoom2 Android 3.2.2  
 
How can I get a beta license for my Android? I sent an email with my infos but you ask me to follow this post.

Today I made my first project in GuiDesigner and now I´d like to test it in an Android device!   Thank you!

Cheers,
E. Skywalker
 

 
 
 
 
 

Em segunda-feira, 27 de fevereiro de 2012 00h40min25s UTC-8, Jarrod Bell escreveu:
Hey Everyone,

The moment a LOT of you have been waiting for - iViewer for Android has reached public beta!

This is the first public beta of iViewer for Android. As a beta product, it is not considered release quality and you SHOULD NOT deploy it at customer sites.

This beta runs on Android devices running Android OS version 2.3 and up. It has been tested on few Android devices running 2.3.x and 3.x.


Checkout this google doc for a lot more info, including how to install iViewer on your Android device:

The download URL to use is in section 2 "Installing iViewer on your Android device"

Jarrod

Terence

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Have you read through the google doc link? There's a step by step information on how to apply for the beta license in it. Basically you'll need to apply for an account at the CF website, install the iViewer and launch it - the first launch will ask you to enter the email info that you've registered to apply for the beta license.

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Erick Guerreiro

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Yes. Sure. I have read and already installed it in my droid, now I am waiting for email with beta license.

I am looking foward to test it because I´d to show something in my school tomorrow morning...and I don´t have any iPad/iPhone here =( 

But it´s ok! I´ll wait! I am very excited with Command Fusion!  :) Thanks for your attention!





2012/8/22 Terence <terry...@gmail.com>

Devin Cook

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Hello.

The Google Doc seems to point to 103 still.

Is this an error?

--Devin

Jarrod Bell

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No, that's the current beta version.

Regards,

Jarrod Bell
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Devin Cook

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Hmm,

the google doc at https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ffP9jQR_PUZW3G5eeQJ5gQZlO7TS7gtc42lOfyT-HI/edit# clearly refers to a rev 105 which fixes the script debugging issue etc.

--Devin

Jarrod Bell

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I guess Florent updated the release notes but wasnt quite ready to submit a new build to public yet. Probably available tomorrow then.


Regards,

Jarrod Bell
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Florent Pillet

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We're updating the release notes & document in anticipation for tomorrow's update. Doc will point to the build in a few hours.

Florent

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Hmm,

the google doc at https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ffP9jQR_PUZW3G5eeQJ5gQZlO7TS7gtc42lOfyT-HI/edit# clearly refers to a rev 105 which fixes the script debugging issue etc.

--Devin

pmsystems

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Hello, .. I've tested the latest  android version of iviewer but when I load my gui designer control software to an android system, I-Itach Hardware doesn't react. When I transfer the same program to an iphone, it works immideatly.
Can you help me, please?

Jarrod Bell

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Please report any issues you are having, with steps to reproduce and a link to a project to replicate the issue, to the GitHub Issues tracker as per the Android Beta documentation:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ffP9jQR_PUZW3G5eeQJ5gQZlO7TS7gtc42lOfyT-HI/edit#heading=h.gsgk54rm5d8v
https://github.com/CommandFusion/iViewer-for-Android/issues

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Jarrod Bell
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Deiby Rojas Montero

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Ok but I dont have a device, only have a nexus7. How can I get a licence for my nexus?

Deiby Rojas Montero

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Ok but I dont have a device, only have a nexus7. How can I get a licence for my nexus?

Deiby Rojas Montero

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Thanks Jarrod

My device is registred now.

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ARINA Smarthome

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Page timer doesn't work.

Michael

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Hello,
I am currently testing my application KNX. It works very well. But i want to report only a few little things.
- The Page timer  ignored the value in "repead Count" (eg, a value of 1 always run)
- In the "onGUISuspended" it is no longer possible to send an IP-Telegram
- It sometimes overtaking IP telegrams
- In the "System Properies" in the "IP Address / Host Name" you can (do not enter a hostname only IP Addresses "
Greeting Michael

Jarrod Bell

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Thanks for the reports Michael.

But please make sure to report them to the issue tracker on github (as per the android beta documentation).
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Hiro

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Jarrpd,
 
I hope you remember this issue.
I have same problem as this issue with my Android.(4.2.1)
 
I am 90% sure that it happens with iOS5, and it works fine with iOS6.
I am happy if you could fix with the next release of iViewer4 for Android.
 

2012年2月27日月曜日 17時40分25秒 UTC+9 Jarrod Bell:

Florent Pillet

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Hi Hiro,

Thanks for the reminder. We will need your GUI in order to be able to assess the issue. It's not possible to say what was the bug on iOS that was causing this problem, we need to look at the Javascript code. Please send your GUI to support at commandfusion.

Thanks!
Florent

On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:40 AM, Hiro <matabata....@gmail.com> wrote:

Jarrpd,
 
I hope you remember this issue.
I have same problem as this issue with my Android.(4.2.1)
 
I am 90% sure that it happens with iOS5, and it works fine with iOS6.
I am happy if you could fix with the next release of iViewer4 for Android.
 

burkep...@gmail.com

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Thinking about buying cf.
Just need to clear up a couple of thing first. i have access to all crestron software i can make sense of about 30% of the programmig . but i'm not into writing programes.
i have also tried homeseer and iridium mobile.
on the trial version of cf there doesn't seem to be a lot to it compared to those i've mentioned above.
1. does cf have swipe like ipad.
2. which is easier to progrme cf or crestron at the end of the day i just want to be able to grag and drop programes.
3. i am thinking  about buying crestron mp2e or a global gc-10012 which one is better


      thanks

burkep...@gmail.com

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Jarrod Bell

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Please do not reply to existing threads on the group with a completely different topic (and multiple times...).

Start a new thread where we can reply to you about your concerns directly.


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Tulio

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CF Team, the short link of current version beta 135 is apparently broken.

Hiro

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Hi, Jarrod,

I am happy to change the font's size with the latest iViewer for Android.
By the way, would you please let me know which font's does it support?
For iOS is this one.(very useful)

But I can't find the list for Android...

Regards,



2012年2月27日月曜日 17時40分25秒 UTC+9 Jarrod Bell:
Hey Everyone,

Hiro

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I could download with this URL.
It should be available even right now.

Try again.
Regards,
Hiro



2013年4月2日火曜日 2時34分10秒 UTC+9 Tulio:

Tulio

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Hi Hiro, I know. I made the short link with my account in bit.ly :-) I thought it was more useful to community simply make the short link.

Florent Pillet

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Oops my bad. I forgot to customize the link when uploading the build.

Thanks Tulio. There's another build coming up anyway :-)

Florent

On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:27 AM, Tulio <tulio....@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Hiro, I know. I made the short link with my account in bit.ly :-) I thought it was more useful to community simply make the short link.

Florent Pillet

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Ok so build 136 is up. Release Candidate will be pushed later this week, so we can release the final version sometime next week.

iViewer now support automatic GUI scaling so that the GUI you makes scales to the size of the device screen. This will help simplify making generic GUIs.

Florent

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Hi Hiro, I know. I made the short link with my account in bit.ly :-) I thought it was more useful to community simply make the short link.

JohanJ

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GUI scaling sounds like a great feature. Can you elaborate on that? Does it preserve aspect ratio? Is it fully automatic or does it included layout managers?

Florent Pillet

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It's fully automatic and preserves ratio. It scales the GUI components, the images, font sizes etc (this is not a zooming of pixels from the GUI defined size). From a code standpoint, all of your JS still handles coordinates at the sizes defined in your GUI. We perform automatic upscale / downscale for you on the fly.

There is no layout manager - we pondered the idea, but layout management is very tricky to get right, and to manipulate.

Florent

On Apr 4, 2013, at 8:30 AM, JohanJ <johanje...@gmail.com> wrote:

> GUI scaling sounds like a great feature. Can you elaborate on that? Does it preserve aspect ratio? Is it fully automatic or does it included layout managers?

JohanJ

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It's definitely a large step towards running the same GUI also on Android. It's although not fully clear to me how it will feel like since the form factors are quite different, 4:3 on iPad and 16:9 or 16:10 on android. That will give us quite large black borders if using the gui developed for iPad directly on an Android unit. Is the automatic scaling more thought for handling Android units with different resolutions, i.e. the form factor do not differ that much?

Yes, layout managers are tricky and they require quite a lot of work to get something nicely looking if using more complex managers. I guess that I'm mainly after a 'glue' effect where on define the areas between object that should stretch if needed, this to avoid black borders when the the form factor changes.   

Florent Pillet

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Black borders are fine, really. It's a small tradeoff for not having to customize the GUI to each precise screen size.

We stretch the GUI proportionally as much as possible so as to fill up either dimension of the screen. We also scale the GUI down if the device has a lower resolution than the one intended for the GUI. In the end, you get a GUI that can run on any device (provided that there is not too much variation in the pixel count, of course - otherwise it may look bad or be unusable if too small).

In short, just make one GUI for phones and one for tablets. Most devices on the market today will gracefully use either one.

Florent

On Apr 4, 2013, at 9:11 AM, JohanJ <johanje...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's definitely a large step towards running the same GUI also on Android. It's although not fully clear to me how it will feel like since the form factors are quite different, 4:3 on iPad and 16:9 or 16:10 on android. That will give us quite large black borders if using the gui developed for iPad directly on an Android unit. Is the automatic scaling more thought for handling Android units with different resolutions, i.e. the form factor do not differ that much?

Yes, layout managers are tricky and they require quite a lot of work to get something nicely looking if using more complex managers. I guess that I'm mainly after a 'glue' effect where on define the areas between object that should stretch if needed, this to avoid black borders when the the form factor changes.    

Tulio

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Florent, it would be nice if we have a flag in guiDesigner to activate or not the scaling.
thanks

Florent Pillet

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Apr 4, 2013, 8:28:38 AM4/4/13
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Okay no problem.

Florent

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Florent, it would be nice if we have a flag in guiDesigner to activate or not the scaling.
thanks

Hiro

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Hi.
Sorry to post continuously..
I am happy if someone could give me the link to know the "font-lists" which support Android.

2013年4月2日火曜日 12時03分01秒 UTC+9 Hiro:
2013年4月2日火曜日 12時03分01秒 UTC+9 Hiro:

Jarrod Bell

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http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html

If you use the latest guiDesigner beta you will find a font selection 
dialog with specific support for iOS and Android options.

Regards,

Jarrod Bell
CommandFusion
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