BigBlueButton 0.8-beta released!

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Fred Dixon

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Sep 12, 2011, 5:28:29 PM9/12/11
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The BigBlueButton development team is pleased to announce the BETA
RELEASE of BigBlueButton 0.8.

After eight months of development, many internal sprints and testing
cycles, and numerous “when will the beta be released?” questions on
our mailing lists, we are happy to reach this milestone.

In terms of the overall progress towards the final release, we can
cross off Step 3.

> 1. Setup http://test.bigbluebutton.org/ for wider testing of record and playback (done)
> 2. Convert http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ to BigBlueButton 0.8-beta (done)
> 3. Publish packages for installation of BigBlueButton 0.8-beta on a Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit and 64-bit server (done)
> 4. Release BigBlueButton 0.8-beta VM
> 5. Release BigBlueButton 0.8

Here's a link to the install instructions. We invite you to grab the
nearest Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit or 64-bit server and install BigBlueButton
0.8 (we've even created a YouTube video walking through the install
steps):

http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/08InstallationUbuntu


For the release notes, see:

http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/ReleaseNotes


For a list of all the people who worked on this release, see

https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton/commits/master


Finally, a bit of history. Back in 1997, when Richard Alam (the lead
architect of BigBlueButton) was a masters student in the Technology
and Innovation Management program at Carleton University, his
supervisor was Tony Bailetti
(http://www.sce.carleton.ca/faculty/bailetti.html). Tony had this
crazy idea to create an open source web conference system for distance
education and Richard was up to the task.

Tony has been waiting four years for record and playback in BigBlueButton.

This release is for you Tony.

Enjoy,... Fred
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Michael Bendorf

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Fred Dixon

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Sep 12, 2011, 6:16:49 PM9/12/11
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Correction!

> Finally, a bit of history. Back in 2007 ...

We've not been working on it that long ;-).

Regards,... Fred

HostBBB.com

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Sep 12, 2011, 7:11:56 PM9/12/11
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Congratulations on this milestone....

Stephen

On Sep 12, 6:16 pm, Fred Dixon <ffdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Correction!
>
> > Finally, a bit of history.  Back in 2007 ...
>
> We've not been working on it that long ;-).
>
> Regards,... Fred
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Fred Dixon <ffdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The BigBlueButton development team is pleased to announce the BETA
> > RELEASE of BigBlueButton 0.8.
>
> > After eight months of development, many internal sprints and testing
> > cycles, and numerous “when will the beta be released?” questions on
> > our mailing lists, we are happy to reach this milestone.
>
> > In terms of the overall progress towards the final release, we can
> > cross off Step 3.
>
> >> 1.  Setuphttp://test.bigbluebutton.org/for wider testing of record  and playback (done)
> >> 2.  Converthttp://demo.bigbluebutton.org/to BigBlueButton 0.8-beta (done)

Chipie

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Sep 13, 2011, 9:42:05 AM9/13/11
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Congrats. Great Work. Setting up an EC2 instance with 0.8 was no
problem.

Regards
-- Chipie

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> Congratulations on this milestone....
>
> Stephen
>
> On Sep 12, 6:16 pm, Fred Dixon <ffdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Correction!
>
> > > Finally, a bit of history.  Back in 2007 ...
>
> > We've not been working on it that long ;-).
>
> > Regards,... Fred
>
> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Fred Dixon <ffdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The BigBlueButton development team is pleased to announce the BETA
> > > RELEASE of BigBlueButton 0.8.
>
> > > After eight months of development, many internal sprints and testing
> > > cycles, and numerous “when will the beta be released?” questions on
> > > our mailing lists, we are happy to reach this milestone.
>
> > > In terms of the overall progress towards the final release, we can
> > > cross off Step 3.
>
> > >> 1.  Setuphttp://test.bigbluebutton.org/forwider testing of record  and playback (done)
> > >> 2.  Converthttp://demo.bigbluebutton.org/toBigBlueButton 0.8-beta (done)

David Boyd

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Sep 13, 2011, 10:30:09 AM9/13/11
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Would you be willing to provide a brief set of steps you used to
create the ec2 instance?

Thanks,
Dave

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Fred Dixon

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Sep 13, 2011, 10:34:54 AM9/13/11
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Hi David,

This should get you going

http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/FAQ#Can_I_install_BigBlueButton_on_EC2?

(substitute the install steps for 0.8-beta in the above link).

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Adefemi Debo-Omidokun

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Sep 13, 2011, 10:42:58 AM9/13/11
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Congratulations Fred and your team. It is indeed, a milestone.
Well done! for the great job.
 
Br//
 
Femi

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Chipie

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Sep 13, 2011, 12:12:47 PM9/13/11
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Can I setup a development environment for 0.8 in the same way as
0.71?

Regards
-- Chipie

On Sep 12, 11:28 pm, Fred Dixon <ffdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The BigBlueButton development team is pleased to announce the BETA
> RELEASE of BigBlueButton 0.8.
>
> After eight months of development, many internal sprints and testing
> cycles, and numerous “when will the beta be released?” questions on
> our mailing lists, we are happy to reach this milestone.
>
> In terms of the overall progress towards the final release, we can
> cross off Step 3.
>
> > 1.  Setuphttp://test.bigbluebutton.org/for wider testing of record  and playback (done)
> > 2.  Converthttp://demo.bigbluebutton.org/to BigBlueButton 0.8-beta (done)

Richard Alam

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Sep 13, 2011, 1:21:41 PM9/13/11
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Hi,

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Chipie <stepha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Can I  setup a development environment for 0.8 in the same way as
> 0.71?
>

You can use these instructions
http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/08SettingDevEnvironment

I suggest you take snapshot of your VM along the way so if something
doesn't work you can roll back.

Let me know if there are any errors and suggestions to improve it.

Richard

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Markus Siebeneicher

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Sep 13, 2011, 7:23:05 PM9/13/11
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Hi Fred,

thanks for the packaging of 0.8-beta. While following the installation procedure i got the following error:

> sudo apt-get install bigbluebutton
> [...]
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   bbb-playback-slides: Depends: bbb-record-core but it is not going to be instal
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

Than i tried to install the missing package:

> sudo apt-get -f install
> (Reading database ... 81152 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking bbb-record-core (from .../bbb-record-core_0.80ubuntu86_i386.deb) ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: line 12: hash: gem: not found
> #
> # Error: Did not locate gem for installing Ruby gems.
> #
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bbb-record-core_0.80ubuntu86_i386.deb (--unpack):
>  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/bbb-record-core_0.80ubuntu86_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Installing gem results in:

> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   bbb-playback-slides: Depends: bbb-record-core but it is not going to be installed
>   gem: Depends: pd
>       Depends: libavifile-0.7c2 (>= 1:0.7.48~20090503.ds) but it is not going to be installed
>       Depends: libftgl2 (>= 2.1.3~rc5) but it is not going to be installed
>       Depends: libglu1-mesa but it is not going to be installed or
>                libglu1
>       Depends: libmagick++2 (>= 7:6.5.7.8) but it is not going to be installed
>       Depends: libmpeg3-1 (>= 1.5.4) but it is not going to be installed
>       Depends: libquicktime1 (>= 2:1.1.1+debian) but it is not going to be installed
>       Depends: libv4l-0 (>= 0.5.0) but it is not going to be installed
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

Anyway, the looks working fine.

We are looking forward to test the 0.8-beta in our team. Also one of our clients is willing to run the beta in his production environment.

Markus

mardal.ma

Fred Dixon

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Sep 13, 2011, 8:06:32 PM9/13/11
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Hi Markus,

Can you confirm that both ruby and gem is working. Type

ruby -v

and

gem -v

> Also one of our
> clients is willing to run the beta in his production environment.

Wow! We plan on (at least) a four week beta testing for
BigBlueButton. There's no date set for the final release -- we
release on quality, not dates.

So if you plan to run it in production, please let us know of any
problems you encounter asap so we can fix them.

Regards,... Fred

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Markus Siebeneicher

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I correct the latest post: looks like it is required to install the latest ruby as mentioned in the second section of the installation guide, even if i don't want to use the record-playback. After installing ruby it works like a charm. Thanks!

Markus

Markus Siebeneicher

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Sep 13, 2011, 8:58:31 PM9/13/11
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Hi Fred,

after the server installation succeeds i got the flash error #2032 which i remember somehow from our own development: RSL Error 1 - 4. Does anyone else got this error too?

I installed a clean machine without any previous installation. Any ideas what to do?

Kind regards,

Markus

Fred Dixon

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Hi Markus,

Just to cross reference, do you get that error when connection to
demo.bigbluebutton.org?

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Markus Siebeneicher

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yes, i got the same error for demo.bigbluebutton.org

Fred Dixon

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Hmmm ... Just tried demo and it worked. I'm using Flash 10.3.183.7
(Google Chrome). Can you right-click within BigBlueButton and check
the version of Flash.

You can also go to this web page

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html


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> yes, i got the same error for demo.bigbluebutton.org
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Markus Siebeneicher

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Good morning Fred,

we have here Flash 10.3.183.7 for Firefox 6.0.2 under Ubuntu 10.04-Desktop-64b. Still not working.

Under windowsXP, we have 10.3.181.34, Firefox 3.6.18, it works out of the box. Remarkable is that when opening the first time the demo.bbb.org you can see that flash is downloading necessary libraries before the blue preloader appears. Thats the missing part for the other environment. Maybe thats a bug in the particular implementation of flash for ubuntu. We will test with another flash/firefox version soon and give a you feedback.

Take care,

Markus

Andrew E

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Sep 14, 2011, 11:46:25 AM9/14/11
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Hi Fred, thanks for the hard work and congratulations on this
milestone.

I just tried it out and ran into a few issues:

I uninstalled 0.71a by running:

sudo apt-get purge bbb-freeswitch-config bigbluebutton
sudo apt-get autoremove

Then, I restarted the server.

I followed the installation instructions at:
http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/08InstallationUbuntu

Everything went fine until step 4: sudo apt-get install bigbluebutton
The installation hung at "Waiting for FreeSWITCH to start: ......"
The dots filled the terminal for 5 hours. I then restarted the server
(maybe a mistake?)

When the server came back up, I ran:
dpkg --configure -a

Then finished the rest of the installation instructions without error.

When I run bbb-conf --check I get:
** Potential problems described below **
# The following properties in /var/lib/tomcat6/webapps/bigbluebutton/
WEB-INF/classes/bigbluebutton.properties have no value.
# bigbluebutton.web.logoutURL

When I try to use the demo from the home page, it loads:
http://<my ip>/client/BigBlueButton.html

...but the page is blank. I think it may be a flash issue.

I've tested in Firefox 6.0.2 and Chrome 13.0.782.220 m with Flash
10.3.183.7 on Windows 7.

Thanks,

Andrew

On Sep 12, 4:28 pm, Fred Dixon <ffdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The BigBlueButton development team is pleased to announce the BETA
> RELEASE of BigBlueButton 0.8.
>
> After eight months of development, many internal sprints and testing
> cycles, and numerous “when will the beta be released?” questions on
> our mailing lists, we are happy to reach this milestone.
>
> In terms of the overall progress towards the final release, we can
> cross off Step 3.
>
> > 1.  Setuphttp://test.bigbluebutton.org/for wider testing of record  and playback (done)
> > 2.  Converthttp://demo.bigbluebutton.org/to BigBlueButton 0.8-beta (done)

Fred Dixon

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Hi Andrew,

As stated in the instructions,

> These instructions will not upgrade from a previous version of BigBlueButton (i.e. 0.71a); rather, we recommend you install on a new server.

We're working on a process to upgrade from the previous version,

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Andrew E

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Hi Fred, Thanks for your reply. I did see that part of the
instructions. I understood that to mean that I needed to remove all
traces of 0.71 before I could install 0.8, which is what I tried to
do. Does it actually mean I cannot install 0.8 on a machine that has
had any previous version of BBB at any point? Or did I simply not do
enough to remove 0.71?

Andrew

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> Hi Andrew,
>
> As stated in the instructions,
>
> > These instructions will not upgrade from a previous version of BigBlueButton (i.e. 0.71a); rather, we recommend you install on a new server.
>
> We're working on a process to upgrade from the previous version,
>
> Regards,... Fred
> --http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/FAQ#BigBlueButton_Committer
> >> > 1.  Setuphttp://test.bigbluebutton.org/forwider testing of record  and playback (done)
> >> > 2.  Converthttp://demo.bigbluebutton.org/toBigBlueButton 0.8-beta (done)

Fred Dixon

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Sep 14, 2011, 8:33:17 PM9/14/11
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Hi Andrew,

> Does it actually mean I cannot install 0.8 on a machine that has
> had any previous version of BBB at any point?

Correct. We didn't intend to say "this doesn't upgrade from 0.71a"
and have everyone try to guess how to uninstall BigBlueButton.

There are only two types of outcomes with installation: it works or
its broken, there is no in between. We must have tested the packaging
about twenty times to make sure it works (or at least as best we could
determine on our test servers). However, we decided to not hold the
release of BigBlueButton 0.8-beta on the upgrade process.

We're working on the upgrade process now, which will likely require
further updates to the packaging. When done, there won't be any
uncertainty as we'll test it first to make sure the upgrade works too.

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Markus Siebeneicher

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Sep 15, 2011, 8:52:27 AM9/15/11
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Hi Andrew,

we had recently managed successfully to install the 0.8-beta version on a machine which had previously installed 0.71a. The trick for us was to remove all the major packages of BBB by ourself. Here our deinstallation history:

sudo apt-get purge bbb-freeswitch-config bigbluebutton bbb-apps bbb-apps-deskshare bbb-apps-sip bbb-apps-video bbb-client bbb-common bbb-config bbb-freeswitch-config bbb-openoffice-headless bbb-web tomcat6 nginx red5
rm -rf /var/bigbluebutton
rm -rf /var/www/bigbluebutton

Maybe that helps you...

Markus

Zeeshan Ali Shah

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when we install 0.8 speex will automatically install with free switch right ?

Zeeshan

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Hi Markus,

I would also recommend to remove activemq and mysql, these tools are no longer used in 0.8 as you can check in the release notes...

- Markos

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Andrew E

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Fred,

Ah ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Thanks for the tips Markus and Markos. I will try that now.

Andrew

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> Hi Markus,
>
> I would also recommend to remove activemq and mysql, these tools are no
> longer used in 0.8 as you can check in the release notes...http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/ReleaseNotes

Ali Khan

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Okay, I have a test server with 0.71 installed on it. How can I
upgrade? Is there any specific way to uninstall the older version?

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> Hi Markus,
>
> I would also recommend to remove activemq and mysql, these tools are no
> longer used in 0.8 as you can check in the release notes...http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/ReleaseNotes

Alec Taylor

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Sep 17, 2011, 1:46:49 AM9/17/11
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Quite a nice new feature list :]

Are you planning on releasing a VM version as well?

Fred Dixon

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Sep 17, 2011, 7:34:05 AM9/17/11
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Hi Alex,

Here's our testing proces for 0.8:

> 1. Setup http://test.bigbluebutton.org/ for wider testing of record and playback (done)
> 2. Convert http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/ to BigBlueButton 0.8-beta (done)


> 3. Publish packages for installation of BigBlueButton 0.8-beta on a Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit and 64-bit server (done)
> 4. Release BigBlueButton 0.8-beta VM
> 5. Release BigBlueButton 0.8

We're currently working on updates to master and will refresh the beta
repository shortly (we're cycling through iterations of Step 3).

When everything looks solid, we'll then move to Step 4 for widespread testing.

Alec Taylor

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Sep 18, 2011, 2:08:38 AM9/18/11
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Great, looking forward to that release.

Might attempt an Ubuntu Server install in a week or so

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