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RaBe62

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Jul 9, 2012, 7:51:33 AM7/9/12
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Hi all,

im new to bbb and look if it cover our requirements or not.

We like to do a dual training. Onsite participants in classroom and online participants in addition the the classroom. For this szenario we have some requeirements which seems not covered yet.

1. Do some experienced user comment the requirements if they can handle out of the box or not
2. Maybe someone can contact me for assistance to solve the requirements

The list of reuirements:
a) Whats transpitted as presentation/shared Desk has also to be showed at a beamer for the onsite classroom

b) the trainer uses a presenter like logitech R400. Here we need shortcuts to get next/prev slide or mute/freeze transmitting

c) sometimes the online participants should see the trainer only and in a big window. For this the video has to be viewed in a oversized windows in the center of the participants screen. This should be done by shortkey (<F5> could be nice because it´s used by presenter like logitech R400) and other shortkey should switch back to normal view (<ESC> would be nice)

d) breakoutsessions are needed

e) some stamps like to use at the whiteboard for fast marking slides

Who can tell me something about that features?
Any help? Professionals are welcome...

Regards
Ralf...

Fred Dixon

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Jul 9, 2012, 8:10:41 AM7/9/12
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Hi Ralf,

I've provided answers to your questions in-line.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:51 AM, RaBe62 <ralf....@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

im new to bbb and look if it cover our requirements or not.

We like to do a dual training. Onsite participants in classroom and online participants in addition the the classroom. For this szenario we have some requeirements which seems not covered yet.

1. Do some experienced user comment the requirements if they can handle out of the box or not

I've participated in hybrid classes using BigBlueButton.
 
2. Maybe someone can contact me for assistance to solve the requirements

You've posted to bigbluebutton-dev, and we all volunteer our time here to help others.  Are you a not-for-profit?  If you are a commercial organization, you can certainly ask for volunteers, but if you need commercial support, see also


 

The list of reuirements:
a) Whats transpitted as presentation/shared Desk has also to be showed at a beamer for the onsite classroom

I think you are asking what is transmitted.  Sharing of presentation is the most efficient. Once the slides are downloaded, the only messages get sent are events, such as next, previous, whiteboard drawing, etc -- all very low bandwidth.

Sharing of desktop creates a video stream and uses the most bandwidth in a session.  A presenter needs to have good upstream bandwidth (such as 1MBits/sec) to have reasonable updates.  The more bandwidth, the better.  See


 

b) the trainer uses a presenter like logitech R400. Here we need shortcuts to get next/prev slide or mute/freeze transmitting

That looks like a wireless mouse/keyboard to control a PC.

The key bindings are probably very centric to Microsoft Powerpoint (such as <F5>).  We haven't tried to follow the Microsoft Powerpoint key bindings in BigBlueButton.   There are a few that are probably similar: once you have focus on the presentation window, you can use the left and right arrows to advance the presentation.

 

c) sometimes the online participants should see the trainer only and in a big window. For this the video has to be viewed in a oversized windows in the center of the participants screen. This should be done by shortkey (<F5> could be nice because it´s used by presenter like logitech R400) and other shortkey should switch back to normal view (<ESC> would be nice)

We're working on merging a layout manager into BigBlueButton for release 0.81.  See



d) breakoutsessions are needed

This feature is definitely on our road map, but not planned for 0.81.  For the roadmap, see

 

e) some stamps like to use at the whiteboard for fast marking slides


Not sure what you are asking here.
 
Who can tell me something about that features?
Any help? Professionals are welcome...

Regards
Ralf...




Regards,... Fred
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Ralf Berlau

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Jul 9, 2012, 10:52:27 AM7/9/12
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Hi Fred,

i have a little trouble using this group - i have to change something....

But first i likte to comment your answer.


Hi Ralf,

I've provided answers to your questions in-line.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:51 AM, RaBe62 <ralf....@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

im new to bbb and look if it cover our requirements or not.

We like to do a dual training. Onsite participants in classroom and online participants in addition the the classroom. For this szenario we have some requeirements which seems not covered yet.

1. Do some experienced user comment the requirements if they can handle out of the box or not

I've participated in hybrid classes using BigBlueButton.
 
2. Maybe someone can contact me for assistance to solve the requirements

You've posted to bigbluebutton-dev, and we all volunteer our time here to help others.  Are you a not-for-profit?  If you are a commercial organization, you can certainly ask for volunteers, but if you need commercial support, see also


I am an selfemployed trainer. This ist not private but also not realy a company. I like to find help maybe for self developing but also like to sponsor a little.

Some days ago i ask a company listet at the support website - but no reaction to me at the moment. Maybe i have to do it for myself. There i really ned some help.
 
 

The list of reuirements:
a) Whats transpitted as presentation/shared Desk has also to be showed at a beamer for the onsite classroom

I think you are asking what is transmitted.  Sharing of presentation is the most efficient. Once the slides are downloaded, the only messages get sent are events, such as next, previous, whiteboard drawing, etc -- all very low bandwidth.

Sharing of desktop creates a video stream and uses the most bandwidth in a session.  A presenter needs to have good upstream bandwidth (such as 1MBits/sec) to have reasonable updates.  The more bandwidth, the better.  See


I know the differences. But i think there is a missunderstanding. At the beamer i don´t like to show the whole presenter view to the local participants. They should see only the presentation OR the shared Desktop - always the same what is viewed to the remote participants. That is the point of interest. 

 
b) the trainer uses a presenter like logitech R400. Here we need shortcuts to get next/prev slide or mute/freeze transmitting

That looks like a wireless mouse/keyboard to control a PC.

The key bindings are probably very centric to Microsoft Powerpoint (such as <F5>).  We haven't tried to follow the Microsoft Powerpoint key bindings in BigBlueButton.   There are a few that are probably similar: once you have focus on the presentation window, you can use the left and right arrows to advance the presentation.

Yes - it is a wireless keyboard with small number of keys. And yes - it is very centric to M$ PowerPoint because it is the marked leader. And merket leaders making something like standars even they are not called as a standard.
 

c) sometimes the online participants should see the trainer only and in a big window. For this the video has to be viewed in a oversized windows in the center of the participants screen. This should be done by shortkey (<F5> could be nice because it´s used by presenter like logitech R400) and other shortkey should switch back to normal view (<ESC> would be nice)

We're working on merging a layout manager into BigBlueButton for release 0.81.  See



d) breakoutsessions are needed

This feature is definitely on our road map, but not planned for 0.81.  For the roadmap, see

 

e) some stamps like to use at the whiteboard for fast marking slides


Not sure what you are asking here.

At this time i only can leave a line in fifferent colors and differnt with. If a can select a symbol (f.e. X) than i can point to a locaition at a slide and leave the X with a click insteat of starting a line.

It it More helpful?

 
 
Who can tell me something about that features?
Any help? Professionals are welcome...

Regards
Ralf...




Regards,... Fred


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