United Forum of Bank Retirees' Organization (UFBRO)

[Chandrashekar Belsare]

Dear all
A circular has been issued by United Forum of Bank Retirees' Organization (UFBRO), which is reproduced below. Also file of the original circular is attached .

Chandrashekhar Belsare

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Circular

Mumbai, 28-09-2011

 

Circular

 

A meeting of the co-ordination committee was held on 18th September, 2011 at Mangalore to take the review on the organizational matter in the present scenario. On the special invitation, Shri. P. S. Murthy, General Secretary, All India S.B.I. Pensioners' Federation was present. On behalf of AIBRF, S/Shri. S. R. Kulkarni, S. C. Jain, T. M. Mathews, D. A. Masdekar, B. Ramji, D. P. Gupta, C. Gopinathan Nair and M. V. G. Nair were present. On behalf of R.B.O.N.C. S/Shri. K. Sukumaran, P. Sanjeeva Rao, R. D. Deshpande, Madigar and A. Shenoy were present.

 

After making opening remarks by Shri. S. R. Kulkarni, Shri. S. C. Jain, General Secretary AIBRF briefed the members on the just included meeting of his Central Committee. Shri. K. Sukumaran, President - RBONC informed the members of the decisions taken in his Executive Committee Meeting held on 7th August, 2011. Thereafter, Shri. P. S. Murthy, General Secretary, All India S.B.I. Pensioners' Federation spoke on solidarity of bank retirees including retirees / pensioners of SBI. He stressed on composite organization of bank retirees / pensioners without the baner of service  unions. After a brief deliberations, it was decided to pursue the following action plans.

 

1.          With ultimate objective of one association of retirees / pensioners in each bank, to start with it, a co-ordination committee of all associations be set up / organized wherever there are more than one association in bank which could take up common issues of retirees with the management. In order to organize this, a
co-ordinator be identified in such banks.

 

2.          The Charter of Demands be finalized within next two months, which may be got signed by as many associations as possible and submit the same to I.B.A./ UFBU / Government of India / Banks. The efforts made by UFBRO in this direction be continued with more vigour.

 

3.          The UFBRO which has been spreading the retiree movement for about a last decade, be strengthened further by enlisting the co-operation of like minded entities. Units of UFBRO be established in all state capitals / union territories / district head quarters. Continuous publicity to the activities of UFBRO be given.

 

In view of the decisions referred above, constituents of UFBRO are requested to start immediately, to  set up co-ordination committee by identifying a co-ordinator in such banks wherever there are more than one association of retirees / pensioners and see that entire process of one bank one association of retirees / pensioners is completed in a time bound period.

 

With Pooja, Dassera and Diwali greetings.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

S. R. Kulkarni

Chief Convenor

[Rajender Sharma]

Sir,

We fully endorse your views on consolidating the retirees" unions/associations

and are of the firm view that a united forum is absolutely necessary to take up the

issues of the pensioners with the IBA/Govt. and make them listen to our just demands.

It would also facilitate redressal of our genuine grievances through legal means,if

necessary.

R.K.Sharma

General Secretary

PNB Retired Staff Welfare Association

Hisar-125005 (Haryana) 

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[Mohan badi]

Dear Sirs,

I  wrote earlier to form (Restructure) one association comprising of all nationalized bank's retired officers under one banner, city wise. 99.99% of all nationalized Bank's rules and regulations are same. You may  not include SBI and subsidiaries, if not feasible., Their group is strong. But whats wrong if we reform one association of all nationalized bank's retired officers' one forum City wise. Just now I read, and it is suggested that one bank one forum of retirees. Will any one throw some light on this issues. AIBOA   AIBOC ,BEFI  etc. etc. are all strong unions at  national level.      I don't deny . Just try whether one can approach to LOKAYUKT instead High Court to avoid any delay in years together. Also think, whether  the same can be done at District levels too. This is to get quick justice to all seniors retirees, to get their pension and other legitimate all  retiral  benefits in time,  nothing else. and I think some ministry  will also support for this move, if we start working on One City One Forum of Retired nationalized bank officer employees forum. Sirs, this is my suggestion. Please do not mistake me. and this is my  exclusive opinion. If I am wrong kindly high light everything on line. I will be very glad. I am totally away from banking activity since 1995 onward.. and now only taking some interest to understand. Hope people herein will cooperate to enlighten me and all who are in dark. due to ignorance. and  due to many  other problems in lives. I am talking here only for restructuring and  nothing like forming any new association., forum, union etc. Please excuse me. All sort of comments invited. Think of Moving Pension Adalat  too. which are existing in some organizations.This I had read in some news papers long ago.
Thanking you all in anticipation.

With regards to all.

Prof.M.R.Badi
Bangalore.

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From: Rajender Sharma <rajender...@gmail.com>
To: bankpe...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: bankpensioner United Forum of Bank Retirees' Organization (UFBRO)

[Raghavan K]

This is an excellent idea.Ther can be organisations of all retired officers of all banks coming under IBA,s banner(alo PSU Banks and old generation private banks) in each State and an all India body to coordinate the activities.

 

K Raghavan,"Deepam",11 Millennium Nagar,Koduvathara Road,Padivattom,PO Edapally,Cochin-682024.Phone 0484 2345367,Mobile 9446801259.

From: Mohan badi <banking...@yahoo.com>
To: bankpe...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011, 17:21

Subject: Re: bankpensioner United Forum of Bank Retirees' Organization (UFBRO)

Dear Sirs,

I  wrote earlier to form (Restructure) one association comprising of all nationalized bank's retired officers under one banner, city wise. 99.99% of all nationalized Bank's rules and regulations are same. You may  not include SBI and subsidiaries, if not feasible., Their group is strong. But whats wrong if we reform one association of all nationalized bank's retired officers' one forum City wise. Just now I read, and it is suggested that one bank one forum of retirees. Will any one throw some light on this issues. AIBOA   AIBOC ,BEFI  etc. etc. are all strong unions at  national level.      I don't deny . Just try whether one can approach to LOKAYUKT instead High Court to avoid any delay in years together. Also think, whether  the same can be done at District levels too. This is to get quick justice to all seniors retirees, to get their pension and other legitimate all  retiral  benefits in time,  nothing else. and I think some ministry  will also support for this move, if we start working on One City One Forum of Retired nationalized bank officer employees forum. Sirs, this is my suggestion. Please do not mistake me. and this is my  exclusive opinion. If I am wrong kindly high light everything on line. I will be very glad. I am totally away from banking activity since 1995 onward.. and now only taking some interest to understand. Hope people herein will cooperate to enlighten me and all who are in dark. due to ignorance. and  due to many  other problems in lives. I am talking here only for restructuring and  nothing like forming any new association., forum, union etc. Please excuse me. All sort of comments invited. Think of Moving Pension Adalat  too. which are existing in some organizations.This I had read in some news papers long ago.
Thanking you all in anticipation.

With regards to all.

Prof.M.R.Badi
Bangalore.

[perumal maruthu]

Dear sir,

Aiboc has already started the ground work for Retired Officers Forum  dedicated exclusively for OFFICERS.

Another group is heard to float a new forum for retired EXECUTIVES alone. If more number of splintered groups can achieve even a small benefit to their group(over and above the present Pension scheme), it is welcome. But beware of the -----pocketers!

With Greetings for your OWN new Forum.

M.Perumal
CB-Pensioner

Chennai

From: Mohan badi <banking...@yahoo.com>
To: bankpe...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: bankpensioner United Forum of Bank Retirees' Organization (UFBRO)

Dear Sirs,

I  wrote earlier to form (Restructure) one association comprising of all nationalized bank's retired officers under one banner, city wise. 99.99% of all nationalized Bank's rules and regulations are same. You may  not include SBI and subsidiaries, if not feasible., Their group is strong. But whats wrong if we reform one association of all nationalized bank's retired officers' one forum City wise. Just now I read, and it is suggested that one bank one forum of retirees. Will any one throw some light on this issues. AIBOA   AIBOC ,BEFI  etc. etc. are all strong unions at  national level.      I don't deny . Just try whether one can approach to LOKAYUKT instead High Court to avoid any delay in years together. Also think, whether  the same can be done at District levels too. This is to get quick justice to all seniors retirees, to get their pension and other legitimate all  retiral  benefits in time,  nothing else. and I think some ministry  will also support for this move, if we start working on One City One Forum of Retired nationalized bank officer employees forum. Sirs, this is my suggestion. Please do not mistake me. and this is my  exclusive opinion. If I am wrong kindly high light everything on line. I will be very glad. I am totally away from banking activity since 1995 onward.. and now only taking some interest to understand. Hope people herein will cooperate to enlighten me and all who are in dark. due to ignorance. and  due to many  other problems in lives. I am talking here only for restructuring and  nothing like forming any new association., forum, union etc. Please excuse me. All sort of comments invited. Think of Moving Pension Adalat  too. which are existing in some organizations.This I had read in some news papers long ago.
Thanking you all in anticipation.

With regards to all.

Prof.M.R.Badi
Bangalore.

[Chandrashekhar Belsare]

Dear Sir
 
    There is one clarification. I have posted this circular on our group site for the information  and comments of our group members. This circular is posted on AIBRF website. I personally have nothing to do with UFBRO. Our bankpensioner google group is an independent group and not  affiliated to any union or pensioners' organization.

Chandrashkhar Belsare

[Prasad C N]

Dear Mr.Raghavan, 

Please advise people like me why only Organisation of 'Retired Officers' is required.  What about non-Officer retirees.

Our regulations is called as 'Bank Employees' Pension Regulations'.  With an exception of two year post-retirement employment clause, there is no other clause discriminates or bifurcates pensioners. 

One one hand we want Updation of pension which is based on removal of compartmentalization, we want compartamentalization among retirees based on erstwhile cadres.

When UFBRO/AIBRF is there, why do require one more Organisation ?   

 

Thanks, a Million.

With regards,
Prasad C N

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From: Raghavan K <raghav...@yahoo.co.uk>
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Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:20 AM

[bhaskara sarma]

DEAR FRIENDS,
MULTIPLE UNIONS ONLY DILUTE THE CAUSE OF RETIREES.IT IS HIGH TIME ALL RETIREES COME UNDER ONE UNION IN EACH BANK AND AFFLIATE TO ONE OR TWO  NATIONAL ORGANISATIONS.PROBLEMS ARE COMMON FOR ALL RETIREES.SO IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF ALL RETIREES TO HAVE ONE/TWO UNIONS FOR EACH BANK.
YOURS SINCERELY,
P B SARMA,SB,SVRS 2001.

[Arun Shukla]

dear sir/s

i agree that after retirement , it should be a common organisation

On 10/8/11, Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr.Raghavan,
>
> Please advise people like me why only Organisation of 'Retired Officers' is

> required. What about non-Officer retirees..........

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[Mohan badi]

Dear Perumalji,

I thank you very much for your comment and  kind advise. I had sought to express my view, nothing else.

With Regards,
Prof.M.R.Badi.
Bangalore.
09902910900

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From: perumal maruthu <perumal...@yahoo.co.in>
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Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2011 1:38 PM

[Raghavan K]

Dear Mr.Prasad,

 

I was only commenting on Prof.Badi's suggestion.There need not be any problem for including all bank employees if AIBEA the largest organisation of award staff supports it( I am sure it will not happen).Many retired employees organisation is not even aware if AIBRF or UBRF.When I checked the website the affiliates are few.Later I learn that website is not update.I wonder what is the use of a website if it is not updated atleast annually.

 

Now there are a number of organisation for retired officers, retired employees bankwise, state wise, citywise without even aware of the office bearers mutually serving no purpose.It will be ideal if AIBRF or UBRF take initiative to have bankwise organisation of retired employees without affiliation to any particular faction but supporting and taking support from all available fora.Such bankwise organisation can have statewise wings for  effective membership drive etc.

 

With regards and wishing and hoping that any type of organisation emerge to solve all retirees instead of dividing them into pre, prior etc which has been done by IBA with the blessings of so called unions and associations.

 

K Raghavan,"Deepam",11 Millennium Nagar,Koduvathara Road,Padivattom,PO Edapally,Cochin-682024.Phone 0484 2345367,Mobile 9446801259.

From: Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com>
To: "bankpe...@googlegroups.com" <bankpe...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2011, 17:52

Subject: Re: bankpensioner United Forum of Bank Retirees' Organization (UFBRO)

Dear Mr.Raghavan, 

Please advise people like me why only Organisation of 'Retired Officers' is required.  What about non-Officer retirees.

Our regulations is called as 'Bank Employees' Pension Regulations'.  With an exception of two year post-retirement employment clause, there is no other clause discriminates or bifurcates pensioners. 

One one hand we want Updation of pension which is based on removal of compartmentalization, we want compartamentalization among retirees based on erstwhile cadres.

When UFBRO/AIBRF is there, why do require one more Organisation ?   

 

Thanks, a Million.

With regards,
Prasad C N

[P.VIJAYARAGHAVAN]

  Having n number of associations...unions...may not serve   any purpose...  AS THE  DIFFERENCES OF OPINION WILL TEND TO N  NUMBER OF TIMES INFINITY....just as  I heard in some election somewhere  117 or so candidates   WERE  in the field....and ultimately what happens... THERE IS NO UNITY AMONG THE PEOPLE...

ULTIMATELY NOTHING FRUITFUL WILL COME OUT...

EXCEPT DIFFERENT UNIONS/ASSOCIATIONS  CHARGING DIFFERENT   AMOUNTS AS ENTRANCE FEE ANNUAL FEE PENALTY  ETC....  APPROACHING ADVOCATES LEGAL LUMINARIES  FILING n number of cases all over India...and the cases adding up to  the large  backlog  of  already pending cases in various courts in India...

AND RETIRED PERSONS WILL REMAIN  SILENT AS THEY CAN DO NOTHING ELSE  BUT WATCH OR HEAR WHAT HAPPENS.. or WHAT SO MANY LEADERS SAY OR THE PROLETARIT     LIKE TO ACHIEVE...

A PENSIONER  WHO LIKES TO BE  MEMBER OF ANY SINGLE  UNIT WHICH DESIRES TO SERVE ITS MEMBERS..

[PRASANNA KUMAR NANDA]

Dear Mr. Prasad,

What you have said is absolutely right!

All efforts,as we see, are directed towards building  more and more heterogeneous

Organisations. The main aim should be to identify anomalies and specific groups 

of retirees affected by it. Then one Association should start perusing it earnestly.  For example :

1.Fixation of Basic Pension at pre- revised rates, rather than actual pay drawn at the time of retirement - Affecting retirees from 2000 - 2005.

  Case own by D.K.Dev of United Bank at Guwahati HC 2007, Bank's appeal pending at Supreme Court and Case own by BOB employees

  at Chennai HC in 2011.

2. Case of resignees, who are deprived of Pension Option : Affected group  - VR employees, normal retirees,and resigned employees.

    Recent case own by one New India Assurance employee.

 There are many such deprived groups of retirees.

Hope we focus more on issues, prioritize them and move forthwith to act at appropriate levels.

Thanks.

P.K.Nanda, United Bank of India VRS 2000.

[Mohan badi]

Dear  All Sirs,
I have said, one common association for all bank employees and it includes all those who retired from bank. I have also said One City One Forum of all retired, from all  banks and let there be existing  bank wise unions  as it is for those who are still working.I have talked about restructuring  retirees forums for simplicity, easily approachable ( if its Town wise, City wise, Taluka wise  etc.) for all retired including senior citizens. Whats wrong in that,  it was my suggestion, nothing else. I have never said exclusive retired officers forum to form. Kindly do not mistake me. I don't want to hurt any one here. Kindly advise me and Make one bank retirees forum strong, very strong. My United Bank union is strong but it is in  Kolkata, what the use to me when health will not permit me to go often  there,and I cant do anything over phone too. Like me many are suffering. I have sought only opinions , nothing else. You are forgetting Lawyers Lobby too, Can one afford lakh worth fee? if one  resorts  to Courts. Court too have delayed justice , it is as good as denied. After our death if we get justice, do you call it as justice? Rest its in your hand, you all.  Strategy only seems to be of  Do or die? I need to think in this way only in the interest of all retirees for good. I am sorry . Here I have sought opinions only. and who will do what only God knows.Every union has its own merits and strength,
I cant deny.and in no way I am blaming any union leader. I am asking leaders to restructure, and  make effective negotiation with individual bank heads, IBA, RBI, Finmins etc. etc. so that their answers would never be negative. We all have given the mandate to Govt. and Govt. must care for all retirees and its senior citizens. Govt. is duty bound. Why should we beg and cry?

Prof.M.R.Badi
Bangalore

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[lakshmanan shankarnaraynan]

Dear Mr.Prasanna Kumar Nanda,

 

Can u please post the judgement of the Gauhati HC in the case of D K Dev and also the details of the appeal in the Supreme Court by United Bank of India.Please inform whether D K Dev has got his basic pension refixed and received the arrears based on the judgement. BOB has also preferred an appeal in the Supreme Court against the Madras High Court judgement.

 

S.Lakshmanan(IB-SVRS2001)