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Peetee Aitchei

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Jan 5, 2015, 7:41:54 PM1/5/15
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Dusty's Best Friends (a repost from yesterday)

First there's our a.r.e. mate Dusty Jaxen
https://plus.google.com/113075924928222628160/posts

then his best friends

Cayitano Jones
https://plus.google.com/100660212780910773203/about

and

John R. Clark
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108515014874325384890/about

and of course
www.willowfield.blogspot.com

FOUR Identities all the one dude.

Now, quoting (JR) John R Clark from a.r.e. we have:

If you had any credibility, you would not need to hide your smears with a
different name on your underwear when you drop them in the laundry mat of
public opinion.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/w4xEMFSvs-w/qZVmTOTtOh8J


On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:18:14 AM UTC-6, JR wrote:

He is so wrong, you cannot use your real name? You dumb ass.
Same goes for Humpty PT-hi Dumpty.
Couple o' dumb asses too scared to get caught being wrong themselves.
The pasture residue between my toes has more common sense than both of you
ignorant fools combined.
Asinus asinum fricat--Dumb asses--one ass scratches the other.
JR

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/w4xEMFSvs-w/IYTT4swRsIkJ

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Hypocrisy = HYPOCRISY any day of the week

... or should that be WEAK?

OK then ... go here http://willowfield.blogspot.com

scroll down the page viewing the right column until you get to the Search Blog box to see the next line which goes:

Was eMail Web Based
Now CYA

Click on the link to: https://prism-break.org/en/

Feel free to work out any extant hypocrisy for yourself.

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Not seen a post from JR since, gosh, is early December 2014?

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Here's one basic research starting point if ever they wake up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot


Much thanks already given to many helpers on the Google Support Team.

Happy new year everyone ... not including Clark Sharpe and Marman...

May it be absolutely be hell on earth for you guys every day for the rest of your life.

Peetee Aitchei

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Jan 5, 2015, 7:58:39 PM1/5/15
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FOR THE RECORD ...


On Friday, January 2, 2015 7:18:49 PM UTC-8, Etznab posted:
"Some trivia about borrowed words."

Which I discarded. Here is a quote of Paul Twitchell who had little time for trivia.

"Do not do as I do. Do as I say."

This was Peddar Zasq's way in my opinion of saying he would always be an unfinished product of the Spiritual Works of ECK.

Your background in Catholicism, Richard Etz and the wannabe Gollum who follows you around calling himself the Pthi One has locked you into the Roman mindset of believing you only live once and do not have an afterlife or reincarnate. Your and Pthi One's opinions will never throw a single lumen on Paul Twitchell's works because of your differences in Spiritual axioms. Both of you will always be relative to the works of ECK and never a part of them until you repent your karma.

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Expand your knowledge about life - Research tip of the Day 2015-01-06

What is psychosis?

There is a group of illnesses which disrupt the functioning of the brain so
much, they cause a condition called psychosis. When someone experiences
psychosis they are unable to distinguish what is real -- there is a loss of
contact with reality. Most people are able to recover from an episode of
psychosis.

http://www.sane.org/information/factsheets-podcasts/185-psychosis

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Etznab

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Kinpa

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why this isn't Sean at all! it's Patricia~!!!! why not introduce yourself Pat??? Did old Sean go see a Dr. yet?? Still too stubborn to listen to reason eh? Be sure and tell him thanks so much for the continued amusement, and sorry, but NONE pf what i have posted breaks ANY law on the books ANYWHERE...care to try again? You seem to have a very amateurish habit of pretending to diagnose mental conditions of others whilst having NO schooling nor a degree with which to realisticlally do so. Rather silly isn't it? I think so...but as you will, you are the one who puts her knee into mushy things, I am not. Thank you for the laughs....do not forget to remind Sean that anytime he isn't SCAREF of what Mr. Marman has to say, he COULD actually engage in a conversation with the man rather than using the constant sophistry that he accuses Mr. Marman of doing. I on the other hand, am not, i am plainly stating facts, no name calling, no claiming assumptive connections are proofs of things that they can never be proofs of! Enjoy that! I am! Ye yourselves are the epitomy of all of the names you cast towards others, and I certainly love the ways you constantly prove me right! Hell?? seriously? I am just a wee bit tougher than that silly girl, i simply do not engage in fear, hell is not worth much worry, i quit being a Catholic when i was 9 years old...try again perhaps, you shall have to do better than that! ;)

Kinpa

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BRING IT THEN~!!!! as I said, I've been waiting several weeks now, and have yet to be contacted by anyone from Google! I also work with several police officers in my area of the world working on internet crimes, and what YOU have, is a whole lot of nothing! I will continue waiting to see your proofs of how this has caused you bodily harm, or has costed you monies, or anything else other than hurtimg your poor poor feelings, which is NOT illegal ANYWHERE in the world! check, look it up! :o)

Peetee Aitchei

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On Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:57:23 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
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Kinpa quote RE::

BRING IT THEN~!!!! as I said, I've been waiting several weeks now, and have yet to be contacted by anyone from Google! I also work with several police officers in my area of the world working on internet crimes, and what YOU have, is a whole lot of nothing! I will continue waiting to see your proofs of how this has caused you bodily harm, or has costed you monies, or anything else other than hurtimg your poor poor feelings, which is NOT illegal ANYWHERE in the world! check, look it up! :o)

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Research, Facts, and the Law

It's the Judge or Jury who that gets to decide the following matters.

Halpern: I'm Mollie Halpern, and this is FBI, This Week. Cyber bullying is when somebody uses the Internet to try to harass or humiliate another person. Supervisory Special Agent Herbert Stapleton...

Stapleton: In certain circumstances, cyber bullying can violate federal law, which the FBI would investigate.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/podcasts/thisweek/cyber-bullying.mp3/view

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx



http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(rvzzav55vo0zhs45s5dsz5jk))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-411s

http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/laws/michigan.shtml

http://www.ncsl.org/research/telecommunications-and-information-technology/cyberstalking-and-cyberharassment-laws.aspx



http://michigan.gov/documents/publications_stalking_understanding_your_rights_8897_7.pdf


General criminal statutes that apply to bullying and cyberbullying

Depending on the circumstances of the offense, bullying may be prosecuted under any of the following state criminal statutes.

Stalking occurs when a defendant engages in two or more acts that would cause a reasonable person to suffer emotional distress (and that actually causes the victim such distress); or causes fright, intimidation, or a feeling of threat in the victim.

Among other specified behaviors, bullying may be prosecuted as stalking when the defendant repeatedly contacted the victim in person, on the phone, or through other electronic media. (Mi. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750.411h.)

Posting electronic messages without consent deals with "cyberstalking," which includes posting a message without the victim's consent through any form of communication (for example, online or in a text message). To be convicted of this crime, the defendant must have had reason to know that posting the message could cause two or more acts of unconsented contact with the victim, and must have posted the message intending to harass, scare, or threaten the victim. And similar to the traditional crime of stalking, the message must have been one that would harass, scare, or threaten a reasonable person in the victim's position, and actually did do one of these things to the victim.

This law could apply, for example, to a bully posting abusive messages on Facebook, so long as the bully's action meets the requirements explained above. (Mi. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750.411s.)
The Far Reaches of Cyberbullying

Cyberbullying is the electronic cousin of bullying, and can cause even more serious damage because the unique attributes of electronically posted content. For example, when messages or images are posted online, they are often available to anyone with Internet access. And even if they are limited to "friends" (as is sometimes the case on Facebook), it is likely that the victim's real life social group will be connected to the victim in this way, and thus have access to hateful cyber-postings.

Furthermore, data posted online never really goes away (even if it is "deleted"). So while a school-yard incident in front of the same group might eventually fade from memory, a victim of cyberbullying may have to regularly relive the harm and embarrassment of the original post. Indeed, images especially may resurface for years to come, affecting the victim's future social relationships and even professional opportunities (as potential employers are now increasingly using Internet searches as part of pre-hiring screening).

And while a schoolyard bully is usually easy to identify, the Internet offers cyber bullies relative anonymity (for example, through a fake social media user profiles). Behind this kind of shield of anonymity, a bully might be bolder--and crueler--than he or she would dare be if faced with the victim in person.

Free speech

Your right to free speech is protected under the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution, however you must understand that this is a limited right. Speech that would pose a serious imminent threat to people or property may be legally limited by the state.

But the line between a legitimate expression of opinion and seriously threatening speech is not always as clear and easy to draw as in these examples. For this reason, it is worth exploring a free speech defense, especially if your words or actions were ambiguous enough not to put a reasonable person in fear of harm (discussed next).

Civil Lawsuits

In addition to the consequences stemming from school antibullying policy, and the fines or jail time from a criminal conviction, victims of bullying may often bring a civil lawsuit for the emotional, social, or financial harm caused by the offense. For example, the judge may award money damages to pay for the cost of therapy for the emotional distress caused by the bully.

Talk to a Lawyer

Bullying, whether handled only at the school level or handled in court, can incur serious consequences. If you have been charged with one of the crimes described here (or something similar), speak to a qualified local criminal defense attorney. Only a lawyer can give you legal advice and help you chart your best course of legal action.

Similarly, you may be able to recover money damages if you have been a victim of cyberbullying or a similar offense. A lawyer can advise you about the potential civil causes of action that might apply to your case.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/cyberbullying-michigan.htm

The crime of harassment (which can include stalking, hate crimes, and cyberbullying) occurs when one person acts in a way designed to annoy, provoke, threaten, or otherwise cause another person emotional distress. State laws and some federal laws identify multiple ways in which harassment can be committed. (For further reading, see The Sedwick Tragedy and Anti-Bullying Laws.)

This means that the prosecutor must show that the defendant did or said something with the intent that the communication would harass the victim. The person may intend to annoy or intimidate the victim, or the words may be designed to provoke a fight.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Harassment.htm

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USA Law

Defamation is the inclusive term, including both slander and libel. In other words libel and slander are both defamation, but libel is printed and slander is spoken.

Stated another way, to constitute defamation the statement must falsely accuse the plaintiff of immoral, illegal or unethical conduct. Generally, the statement must harm the reputation of the person, but in the case of per se defamation, damages will be presumed. This last point is very important, because if a plaintiff had to prove actual damage, the burden of proof in most cases would be nearly impossible.

1. False Statement of Fact

Truth is an absolute defense to a claim for defamation. No one can prevent you from telling the truth, even if that truth harms someone else.

Further, the statement of an opinion generally will not constitute defamation, since it is not offered as a statement of fact.

http://www.toplawfirm.com/whatisdefamation.html


AUSTRALIAN LAW

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/da200599/

"Defamation occurs where one person communicates, by words, photographs, video, illustrations or other means, material which has the effect or tendency of damaging the reputation of another." That traditional definition is now expanded to cover publication over the Internet.
http://www.australian-defamation-lawyers.com.au/defamation/

Dow Jones & Co. Inc. v Gutnick was an Internet defamation case heard in the High Court of Australia, decided on 10 December 2002. The 28 October 2000 edition of Barron's Online, published by Dow Jones, contained an article entitled "Unholy Gains" in which several references were made to the respondent, Joseph Gutnick. Gutnick contended that part of the article defamed him. A key judgement was that the suit could be brought in Australia.

In a unanimous decision, all seven High Court justices decided that Gutnick had the right to sue for defamation at his primary residence and the place he was best known. Victoria was considered the place where damage to his reputation occurred. The High Court decided that defamation did not occur at the time of publishing, but as soon as a third party read the publication and thought less of the individual who was defamed.

Dow Jones was forced to admit in court that "there was no reason to believe Mr Gutnick was a customer of Mr Goldberg or had any criminal or improper relations with Mr Goldberg." (quote from an Australian Broadcasting Corporation story)

The High Court's ruling effectively allows defamation plaintiffs in Australia to sue for defamation on the internet against any defendant irrespective of their location. "If people wish to do business in, or indeed travel to, or live in, or utilize the infrastructure of different countries, they can hardly expect to be absolved from compliance with the laws of those countries. The fact that publication might occur everywhere does not mean that it occurs nowhere." (per Callinan J at para 186)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_Jones_%26_Co_Inc_v_Gutnick

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wernertrp

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I have also a second identity:

Facebook clobber buster

Peetee Aitchei

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lol .. nothing wrong in using nyms or multiple identities Werner.

the issue is the hypocrisy and the associated personal abuse, defamation & lies
being told. Such is life in a world infested with psychotics and perpetrators
of intentional abuse.

Peetee Aitchei

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On Tuesday, 6 January 2015 16:52:10 UTC+11, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
> On Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:57:23 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
> -
> -
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> Kinpa quote RE::
>
> BRING IT THEN~!!!! as I said, I've been waiting several weeks now, and have yet to be contacted by anyone from Google! I also work with several police officers in my area of the world working on internet crimes, and what YOU have, is a whole lot of nothing! I will continue waiting to see your proofs of how this has caused you bodily harm, or has costed you monies, or anything else other than hurtimg your poor poor feelings, which is NOT illegal ANYWHERE in the world! check, look it up! :o)
>
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DEFAMATION

1. False Statement of Fact - Truth is an absolute defense to a claim for defamation.

Quoting Matt Sharpe:- "i am plainly stating facts"

For the record:
I am married
I don't have a girlfriend
I don't know anyone named Patricia
My computer is not broken
I have not borrowed a computer

Meanwhile Matt Sharpe asserts as a fact (among other lies and libel these last 5 weeks) that:

"(patricia is) the one who puts her knee into mushy things"

No medical degree is needed to establish someone is lying through their teeth intentionally,
to intentionally harass and bully another person,
to defame them, to lie about them, to intimidate them, and to insult them.

No medical degree is required to establish a firm basis for concluding the
opinion that another person is actually an idiot and bat shit crazy and psychotic!

A little life experience and sanity is all that is required.

Kinpa

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On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 7:33:58 AM UTC-5, Henosis Sage wrote:
> On Tuesday, 6 January 2015 16:52:10 UTC+11, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:57:23 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
> > -
> > -
> >
> > Kinpa quote RE::
> >
> > BRING IT THEN~!!!! as I said, I've been waiting several weeks now, and have yet to be contacted by anyone from Google! I also work with several police officers in my area of the world working on internet crimes, and what YOU have, is a whole lot of nothing! I will continue waiting to see your proofs of how this has caused you bodily harm, or has costed you monies, or anything else other than hurtimg your poor poor feelings, which is NOT illegal ANYWHERE in the world! check, look it up! :o)
> >
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> >
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> DEFAMATION
>
> 1. False Statement of Fact - Truth is an absolute defense to a claim for defamation.
>
> Quoting Matt Sharpe:- "i am plainly stating facts"
>
> For the record:
> I am married
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no, you haven't been married for quite some time...irreconcilable differences sound familiar? your ex-wife considers you to be bat shit crazy, which is the only reason you continue using those terms.

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> I don't have a girlfriend
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That's because she could not stand you any longer, she dumped you, but you brought that upon yourself...
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> I don't know anyone named Patricia
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liar!

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> My computer is not broken
> I have not borrowed a computer
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

Lying again? LOL that would put you into the same category that you like to put Paul Twitchell into, hypocrite!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Meanwhile Matt Sharpe asserts as a fact (among other lies and libel these last 5 weeks) that:
>
> "(patricia is) the one who puts her knee into mushy things"
>
> No medical degree is needed to establish someone is lying through their teeth intentionally,
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That is not at all true, and you know that, but continue trying as often as you like, i find no end to the amusement you've been providing...
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> to intentionally harass and bully another person,
> to defame them, to lie about them, to intimidate them, and to insult them.
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Do you mean the way YOU did to a female at yahoo groups?? It is all still there for anyone to go read, but i'll c&p it for everyone's ease



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> No medical degree is required to establish a firm basis for concluding the
> opinion that another person is actually an idiot and bat shit crazy and psychotic!
> ---------------------------------------------------------
You are simply lazy, and not very creative either, so if it pleases you, by all means continue with your Wikipedia Diagnosis.....actual psychologists find that amusing and i have had a number of them come and read what you post.


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> A little life experience and sanity is all that is required.
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Then perhaps you ought to go and acquire some before you speak! And now, with the multitude of false harassment claims Sean makes, i will show proof that HE is the only one who harasses people and then tries to turn around and play victim...a strategy that isn't worth a whole lot...isn't that right Editor PTHA???

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/exsat/conversations/topics/17489

here is a quote " In the Radhasoami Studies forum created and run by Professor David Lane a rape threat was leveled at me by a poster who goes by the name Editor.pth. For weeks misogynistic posts were allowed, verbal abuse and sexual harassment protected in this same forum. Only after I repeatedly brought to Prof. Lane's attention that I intend to have his forum investigated for the hate speech he has allowed in that forum (including this rape threat by Editor.pth who remains an active participant in Radhasoami Studies) did Prof. Lane finally agree to 'temporarily' moderate his forum. He also after I indicated I am reporting this matter to the Yahoo Authorities finally (the forum has been in existence since at least 2003) put up a warning about hate speech and flame wars.

I have initiated a police investigation into the rape threat and the cyber bullying which David Lane turned a blind eye and deaf ear towards. His current attempt to salvage his image (I suppose) is too little, too late.

As an ex-satsangi I wanted to make the announcement in this forum that I intend to do everything in my power to see that everyone engaged in that hate speech, in that rape threat, and in the protection of a climate of misogyny to the nth degree is held accountable. The damage has been done and Professor David Lane's protection of those who engaged in cyber bullying needs to be addressed in a public manner.

Thank you for letting me share my experience and perspective here. My voice will not be heard in Radhasoami Studies anymore as I am banned there for bringing this matter to the attention of the authorities but perhaps my voice might still be heard in this forum. Professor Lane and others, evidently, prefer to have me described as mentally ill and/or a 'wounded spirit' rather than take responsibility for their role in generating this misogynistic contribution to rape culture. As a life-long feminist I'm used to being called all sorts of names but that doesn't mean I will remain silent about Professor Lane's role in what I experienced these past few weeks, at a heightened level, at RSS.

Respectfully,

Gloria"

Kinpa

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Feb 11, 2015, 3:54:23 PM2/11/15
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and note Sean's response, with the same overly familiar habits of Wiki diagnosis and name calling:

"Gloria you would't know what seva is if someone shoved it up ur ass all the
way to your throat with a baseball bat you stupid twisted creep. Even as a fool
you're incompetent. An absolute waste of space. Like anyone has to go read
everyone's posts, glenns, yours, anyones just because you say there's something
"wow and important in it" .... me me me me me me me me me me me me me me ....
it's always all about YOU ain't it Gloria? BS it is

>
> Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern

of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for
admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with
this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody's life
or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a
king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most
ordinary people today.

>
> People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish,

disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this
disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter's "rudeness" or "stupidity" or
conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician."

Henosis Sage

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That's interesting. Why would you do that?

Henosis Sage

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That's interesting, tell me more.

Kinpa

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so you are implying that I am the editor of the PTHA? hilarious, as are your claimed copyrights of photographed and previously copyrighted materials LOL, keep going buddy, scream at that wall! everyone enjoys the amusement you have been providing here for years! keep up the good "work"!

Henosis Sage

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Feb 11, 2015, 7:28:01 PM2/11/15
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Fascinatingly delusional. Learn to READ what is written and what that means.

You are an IDIOT, plain and simple.

Kinpa

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you sound more and more like a broken record...i read all i need to read, she accused you of threatening to rape her, and everyone has known for years that YOU are the only "editor" of the PTHA! I am no idiot, but you keep repeating what you have already said a thousand times! I laugh more each time!

Kinpa

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and YOU are someone that enjoys threatening females with RAPE! and that is on your record, broken though it is...
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