JFK Assassination Forum Archives -- Misc. Topics Of Interest (Part 107)

>>> "Dr. Alvarez explained in his paper the steps required to get his melons to exhibit a jet effect. Your showman did [???] take these steps. So are we to believe that your clowns have outdone a winner of the Noble Prize?" <<<

They're not my "clowns", Herb. I didn't pay them off. You CT idiots
probably think that the CIA provided the payola to Penn & Teller.

After all, the CIA is responsible for every evil act in the history of
the USA since 1950, aren't they? They pay off everybody, even me. And
Bugliosi supposedly got a million from the Langley crooks too.

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Aug 7, 2009, 3:09:45 AM8/7/09

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On Aug 6, 9:44 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> "Dr. Alvarez explained in his paper the steps required to get his melons to exhibit a jet effect. Your showman did [???] take these steps. So are we to believe that your clowns have outdone a winner of the Noble Prize?" <<<
>
> They're not my "clowns", Herb. I didn't pay them off. You CT idiots
> probably think that the CIA provided the payola to Penn & Teller.

find a civil tongue in your mouth, dipshit.... after all, you
represent his majesty Vincent daBugliosi...you're incorrigible not to
mention a moron... carry on!

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Aug 8, 2009, 1:03:31 AM8/8/09

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>>> "[Arlen Specter] was under extreme pressure to connect the dots - hence the SBT." <<<

You're wrong if you think Arlen Specter (alone) came up with the
Single-Bullet Theory:

"From the first moment that I heard that Specter had come up
with the single-bullet theory, it made very little sense to me since
the theory was so obvious that a child could author it.

"Since [the members of the Warren Commission staff] all knew
that the bullet, fired from Kennedy's right rear, had passed through
soft tissue in Kennedy's body on a straight line, and that Connally
was seated to the president's left front, the bullet, after emerging
from Kennedy's body, would have had to go on and hit Connally for the
simple reason it had nowhere else to go. How could it be that among
many bright lawyers earnestly focusing their minds on this issue, only
Specter saw it? ....

"When I asked [Norman Redlich on September 6, 2005] if, indeed,
Arlen Specter was the sole author of the single-bullet theory, his
exact words were, "No, we all came to this conclusion simultaneously."
When I asked him whom he meant by "we," he said, "Arlen, myself,
Howard Willens, David Belin, and Mel Eisenberg." ....

"I don't know about you folks, but I'm inclined to take what
Redlich told me to the bank. My sense is that Redlich, who by almost
all accounts worked harder on the case than anyone else, was a team
player only interested in doing his job well. ....

"If I have done a disservice to Specter in what I have written
above, I apologize to him. But I did give him an opportunity to
respond to this issue [via a letter sent to Specter on June 24, 2005],
and he declined." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Pages 302-304 of "Reclaiming
History" (Endnotes)

>>> "The WC themselves put restraints - that is one bullet missed - thanks to Tague's wound. .... That damn Tague and his cheek wound, eh? - completely threw the case into turmoil." <<<

That's just not true, Tony. Not at all. James Tague's slight cheek
wound did not throw the case into "turmoil". Maybe you should learn
the basics of the case better. Read page 117 of the Warren Report (one
of my favorite pages, along with Page 195).

On Page 117, the Warren Commission was fully acknowledging the very
real possibility that the damage to the curbstone on Main Street (and
hence, Tague's injury as well) was possibly caused by a fragment from
the bullet that struck President Kennedy in the head. Here, read it:

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0071a.htm

>>> "So, the onus is on you to prove that JFK's hit to his back was a through and through by CE399 - otherwise you have nothing - absolutely nothing." <<<

Every official investigative body has concluded that the SBT is
correct. Why do you ignore them? Why? You can still work your make-
believe conspiracy into the mix, via the make-believe Grassy Knoll
gunman who fired the fatal head shot from the right-front.

So, why do all CT-Kooks insist on spitting on the absolutely-true
Single-Bullet Conclusion? CTers would look much less silly by merely
accepting the obviousness of the SBT. I've often wondered why so many
CTers refuse to accept it. Especially since it is THE only possible
scenario in this case that makes any coherent sense at all (and is the
only scenario that fits the actual evidence, to boot).

www.Single-Bullet-Theory.blogspot.com

tomnln

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Aug 8, 2009, 1:12:18 AM8/8/09

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WRONG David;

See the Warren Commission's Executive Session of December 16, 1963.

Page 35. They were STILL discussing the "Entrance Wound" in the throat.

"David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> accepting the obviousness of the SBT. I've often wondered why so few

David Von Pein

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Aug 8, 2009, 1:27:58 AM8/8/09

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What's a 12/16/63 meeting got to do with the price of smoked salmon in
Pierre, South Dakota, you idiot?

How does that '63 meeting negate Page 117 of the WR re. Tague/Main St.?

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Aug 8, 2009, 6:14:18 PM8/8/09

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perhaps you should speak with your arch-hero, Vinnie daBuglisosi...
and get off your knees fer christsakes, you're embarrassing the entire
nutter-troll contingent here at acj

David Von Pein

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Aug 8, 2009, 6:24:54 PM8/8/09

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So, IOW, Healy can't answer my last question either.

That's certainly not a surprise, though. Healy never talks about the
JFK case here at all. He might as well be posting on alt.knitting-&-
needlepoint.com for all the good he does here at acj.

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Aug 8, 2009, 8:39:32 PM8/8/09

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what shouldn't surprise you moron (or anyone else) is this: I'm still
waiting (6 years now)for one of you nutter-troll idiots to say the
Zapruder film could not of been altered and prove it (that going to
take forensic testing of the film! Then you can take on my piece in
the TGZFH, if you have the balls of course, and I suspect YOU don't
(you can always drag in Dave Wimp and Joe Durnivich - AGAIN). So
moron, if you a daBugliosi want success you need to get busy shoring
up the extant Zapruder film and it rep, Myers failed miserably...

If the alleged in-camera Zapruder film goes down your stuck with eye
witness testimony... and THAT means YOU and the long lived nutter-
troll brigade are sunk!

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>>> "I'm still waiting for one of you nutter-troll idiots to say the Zapruder film could not of been altered and prove it." <<<

A bunch of kooks say the Z-Film is a "hoax". And everybody's supposed
to just believe it. Just like that. Eh, Healy?

Healy doesn't even realize the built-in contradiction of the "Z-Film
Hoax" nonsense.

I.E.,

The head snap REMAINS.

Some great film-alterers you've got there, Healy. I guess the film-
fakers WANTED millions of people who might eventually see the
"ALTERED" film to rise up in March 1975 after seeing Groden show the
film on ABC-TV's "Good Night, America" and say to themselves --- Hey!
It looks like Kennedy was shot from the front there!

Try again, Healy. The Z-Film "hoax" business is, itself, a hoax. And
even a junkie like you surely must realize that fact.