JFK Assassination Forum Archives -- Misc. Topics Of Interest (Part 84)

On Jan 27, 11:54 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> ARCHIVED JFK ASSASSINATION FORUM POSTS OF INTEREST (PART 84):
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> SOME FUN WITH JFK'S "WHITE HOUSE DIARY":http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/38975803db62b337
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> QUOTES THAT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS HATE:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/threa...http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/2370516d474b1d9f

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> RUTH PAINE:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/27f53b00ff3a19d0
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> OSWALD'S PRINTS ON RIFLE C2766:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/ac5031cddf6822db
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> BRENNAN:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1547c93ed39e428e
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> S.B.T.:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e08cb8b3db2d2f9f
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> THE AUTOPSY:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/ab3d17371bfeb2f0
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> DVP ON DVD (DICK VAN DYKE):http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/8a11ddae0767aff7
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Anything there about future Prez Gerald Ford on the Warren
Commision moving the bullet hole in Kennedy's *back* four inches
higher for "Clarity"?

David Von Pein

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Jan 27, 2009, 3:19:14 PM1/27/09

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>>> "Anything there about future Prez Gerald Ford on the Warren Commision [sic] moving the bullet hole in Kennedy's *back* four inches higher for "Clarity"?" <<<

Here:

GERALD FORD AND THE SBT -- DID HIS "MOVE" REALLY MATTER AT ALL?:
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bf3ae3c6c0993e13

No CTer can possibly fight the above facts (and logic).

David Von Pein

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Jan 27, 2009, 3:23:47 PM1/27/09

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Addendum......

THE "SBT PERFECTION" OF WARREN COMMISSION EXHIBIT NUMBER 903:
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c65419db537d4abf

tomnln

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Jan 27, 2009, 3:54:24 PM1/27/09

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"David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Davis V P is NOT interested in 4 inchers.

David V P prefers "The BIG Ones.

tomnln

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Jan 27, 2009, 3:57:51 PM1/27/09

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> Addendum......
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> THE "SBT PERFECTION" OF WARREN COMMISSION EXHIBIT NUMBER 903:
> www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c65419db537d4abf

David MUST quote himself.

NOBODY else Will.

as for the SBT, SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm

As for the Criminal Prostitute Gerald Rudolph Ford SEE>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/FORD.htm

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David Von Pein

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Jan 27, 2009, 4:17:31 PM1/27/09

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>>> "David MUST quote himself." <<<

I quoted author Jean Davison in one of my posts above, Mr. Kook.

I'll quote her directly now:

"[Conspiracy theorists] claim that the entry wound HAD to be
raised to the "back of the neck" in order to make the Warren
Commission's single bullet theory work. But the assertion isn't
supported, it's simply a claim. Furthermore, the claim is false, since
there was no need to raise the wound into the nape of the neck. Here's
the official WC illustration of the SBT, Commission Exhibit 903:

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/html/WH_Vol18_0055b.htm

"Whether one agrees with it or not, that IS the WC's trajectory
for the single bullet, and as you can see, it doesn't require an entry
in "the back of the neck". .... My question is still, what evidence is
there that Ford made his revision in order to support the SBT? ....

"To my knowledge, [nobody] has ever explained how moving the
back wound up to THE NECK supports the SBT. Nobody CAN support it,
because moving the entry to the neck would destroy the WC's SBT
trajectory, not strengthen it. .... The claim that Ford's change
"strengthens" the WC's SBT is simply not true." -- Jean Davison;
12/31/06 and 1/2/07

www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bf3ae3c6c0993e13
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c65419db537d4abf

tomnln

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Jan 27, 2009, 4:37:49 PM1/27/09

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Leave it to David V P to quote the author of a "NOVEL".

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm

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tomnln

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Jan 27, 2009, 4:39:43 PM1/27/09

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David V P always quotes from "NOVELS".

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm

KOOK-SUCKERS Always quote from Novels.

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David Von Pein

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Jan 27, 2009, 11:55:41 PM1/27/09

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>>> "No, it [the autopsy of John F. Kennedy] is NOT the evidence. It is the lie." <<<

Yeah. Right. Whatever you say, Tony.

>>> "YOU are living in a dream world where everything is perfect and no one ever does anything wrong." <<<

And YOU are living in a dream world where apparently nobody ever does
anything RIGHT (except, of course, for Sir Anthony Marsh; he's always
right). Right?

David Von Pein

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Jan 28, 2009, 12:33:16 AM1/28/09

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>>> "Bugliosi had nice things to say about my website too, in spite of never having visited it! (He just doesn't do Internet.)" <<<

Correct.

From "RH":

"From time to time people send me articles and documents from
the many JFK assassination Web sites, and from what I have received,
it appears to me that McAdams's site is the premier JFK assassination
Web site, clearly superior in depth and scholarship to that of his
peers." -- Vincent T. Bugliosi; Page 935 of "Reclaiming History"
Endnotes (c.2007)

www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/99f950c44ea6dcee

David Von Pein

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Jan 30, 2009, 5:15:02 PM1/30/09

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http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=13439&view=findpost&p=162200

THOMAS PURVIS UTTERED THIS HILARITY ON 1/30/09:

>>> "Yes, I firmly believe in various alterations to the Zapruder film as well, which of course would appear quite illogical to most, considering that I also claim that all shots came from the sixth floor of the TSDB [sic]." <<<

DVP SAYS:

Yeah, Tom....let's elevate the plot to ridiculous and wholly-
unnecessary levels of complexity by altering the Zapruder Film, which
is a film that CANNOT (EVEN BY KOOK PURVIS' OWN ADMISSION!) POSSIBLY
SHOW THAT A MULTI-GUN CONSPIRACY EXISTED (because a multi-gun plot did
NOT exist, of course, by Kook Purvis' own admission).

Lovely plan there.

Did the after-the-shooting conspirators and cover-up operatives corner
the market on "NEEDLESS COMPLICATIONS", Thomas? Sure seems like they
must have, per your crackpot theories.

Brokedad

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Jan 30, 2009, 8:08:08 PM1/30/09

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On Jan 30, 2:15�pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=13439&view=find...

There quite obviously is a "kook", or at least a complete "parrothead"
here.

And, considering that I neither believe the WC's BS story, nor do I
believe their "THE SHOT THAT MISSED", then I will be more than glad to
allow history to ultimately determine exactly which of us
is the more ignorant of the facts of the assassination.

At least I for one am not afraid to allow all to know exactly who I
am, as well as where I can
be found.

You can run off at the mouth all that you like. However, absolutely
no rational or self-thinking person can accept that the WC's COS
(Crock of Shit) is even close to believeable.

But then again, Parrots are not known for the ability to rationalize
and/or think for themselves.

Whats the matter? Sales of the VDB book not going well?????

Come on there Parrothead! Explain away as to why the WC saw fit to
have to alter their own
evidence and then attempt to hide this alteration.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ngarchive/Altered_Evidence.pdf

I know the reason why! Do you???

Come on there Parrothead, for the enjoyment of the reading public, why
not tell exactly how many witnesses accurately stated that the Z313
impact was the second shot fired in the shooting sequence.

Come on there Parrothead, for the enjoyment of the reading publich why
not explain exactly why the US Secret Service, as well as the FBI,
determined that the third/last/final shot impact was some 30-feet
farther down Elm St from the Z313 impact, directly in front of James
Altgens location.

Just exactly as he stated when he testified that the LAST shot struck
JFK in the head directly in front of where he was standing.

Hell! Even a Parrot should be capable of understanding that if the
second shot/aka Z313 struck JFK in the head, and the third/last/final
shot also struck him in the head, then JFK was struck in the head by
two seperate bullets.

And, while you are attempting to explain all of this, why not take a
shot at an explanation for the TWO seperate and distinctive bullet
hole penetration through the coat of JFK.

Oh! I'm sorry! Parrots can neither think for themselves nor explain
things which they have neither the ability to read and/or comprehend.

Therefore, they must accept and believe "THE SHOT THAT MISSED",
irrelevant as to how completely asinine and stupid such a claim is.

Brokedad

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Jan 30, 2009, 8:27:59 PM1/30/09

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On Jan 30, 2:15�pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
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Hey Parrothead!

Did you ever have anyone explain to you that the SS reenactment video
demonstrates the impact location for the Z313 Second Shot as wall as
the Altgens Third Shot.

That is what those last two cones which were set back into the center
of Elm St. by the US SS Agent who came off the concrete stair steps
was all about.

Oh! Sorry! That would require someone with the ability for self
thought to have figured that one out.

You truly are stupid!

Posting evidence for all to see when you yourself have absolutely no
concept as to what that evidence represents.

Z313 impact location and the Altgens impact location! For those who
may have interest in the facts.

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David Von Pein

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Jan 30, 2009, 9:39:05 PM1/30/09

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A MEGA-KOOK NAMED PURVIS GUSHED:

>>> "You can run off at the mouth all that you like." <<<

DVP (A NON-KOOK) RETORTED WITH:

And I shall, seeing as how you are such a perfect target for ridicule
(being a retarded conspiracy kook like you are and all).

>>> "Absolutely no rational or self-thinking person can accept that the WC's COS (Crock of Shit) is even close to believeable [sic]." <<<

LOL. That must be why you've gotten to within a WHISKER (or less) of
believing it, too...right Mr. Purv-Kook?

You believe that Oswald shot Kennedy and did it alone (with exactly
three shots being fired from LHO's Mannlicher-Carcano)....and yet at
the very same time (incredibly) you also say that the WC version of
events is not "even close" to being believable.

LOL. You're hilarious....not to mention just downright weird regarding
your oddball "Close, But No Cigar" beliefs about the WC and the JFK
assassination.

>>> "Whats [sic] the matter? Sales of the VDB book not going well?????" <<<

Who's "VDB"? Vinnie's middle initial is "T", Mr. Kook.

>>> "Explain away as to why the WC saw fit to have to alter their own evidence and then attempt to hide this alteration." <<<

The Warren Commission did no such thing. You're inventing needless and
unwarranted conspiracy-flavored shit just for the hell of it (as all
CT-Kooks do).

Anything else you care to mangle today? Surely there's something else
the WC did that didn't meet Thomas H. Purvis' rigid requirements or
standards. Let's have it, kook.

>>> "I know the reason why! Do you???" <<<

I doubt you can turn on your computer each day without
assistance....let alone figuring out (all by yourself) how the WC was
involved in a TOTALLY-NEEDLESS AND USELESS cover-up regarding the
particulars of the JFK murder case, i.e., a cover-up that only exists
in the fevered mind of Thomas H. Purvis (aka: Kook Extraordinaire).

>>> "For the enjoyment of the reading public, why not tell exactly how many witnesses accurately stated that the Z313 impact was the second shot fired in the shooting sequence." <<<

That's good, Purvis....stick with the subjective witnesses when it
comes to those 8 seconds of pure horror and confusion that they each
experienced on Elm Street in Dallas on 11/22/63, instead of using some
common sense. We all know how much you love Jim Altgens and Emmett
Hudson. Without them, in fact, your stupid theory is shot to hell.

BTW, have you gotten even ONE other human (or dog or kangaroo) on
Planet Earth to buy into your "Two Head Shots From The Rear" theory
yet? Is there anybody else at all willing to follow Kook Purvis down
Retard Avenue? (Didn't think so.)

David Von Pein

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>>> "It is simply illogical for him [LHO] to make that special Thursday night trip just to get curtain rods." <<<

And it also makes no sense for Oswald to even want curtain rods AT ALL
for his room on Beckley Avenue, which was a room that he apparently
had every intention of vacating very soon -- possibly even the next
day (Nov. 22), per what he told Marina on Nov. 21.

LHO told Marina on 11/21 that he would go look for an apartment in
Dallas "tomorrow" (11/22), if she would agree to come back to Dallas
and live with him again right away.

So why would he have wanted to put up curtain rods in a room on
Beckley (which didn't need any rods in the first place, of course) if
he had every reason to think he might be moving out of there
"tomorrow"?

The "curtain rods" story was a total lie by LHO, from start to finish,
designed to keep Wes Frazier from knowing the real contents of the
paper bag that Lee took to work on 11/22.

Only a rabid CTer can deny the truth of my last paragraph.

NOW, ABOUT THOSE "CURTAIN RODS" OF OSWALD'S:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7a460183ae4c6c41