Ping Will.....

[George Sulzbach]

Thank you for the kind wishes and idea... I would appreciate this, but you or Will would need to set it up for me, I suspect, as my abilities on the internet are obviously very primitive. I will make an attempt to set some thing up, and with Will Dockery helping perhaps it can be online soon.

Thanks again, Jimmy.

[George Sulzbach]

Thank you Jimmy... I will meet with William this evening and devise a plan. Your offer of help is amazing and generous. I can make those dollars stretch for a bit, and hopefully some real employment will wing my way soon. Or perhaps the VA will have some good news for me this week.

[George Sulzbach]

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-4, drive-by wrote:

> On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 10:09:22 AM UTC-4, George Sulzbach wrote:
> > Thank you Jimmy... I will meet with William this evening and devise a plan. Your offer of help is amazing and generous. I can make those dollars stretch for a bit, and hopefully some real employment will wing my way soon. Or perhaps the VA will have some good news for me this week.
>

> got to help each other, or the whole thing falls apart.

Will be getting some info on here soo, thanks for the solidarity...

[George Sulzbach]

Thank you for the concern,both of you, my friends.

I plan to make it up to you... How about a couple of pieces of art, or perhaps a cover for your next chapbook, Jimmy?

See William's Shadoowville Speedway cover for an example of my work?

[Will Dockery]

On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 6:50:10 AM UTC-4, drive-by wrote:

> Appreciate the thought, George...hang on to your work though and concentrate on recovery.
>
> PS....here's my artwork (you might enjoy):
>
> Click images to enlarge
>
>
> http://www.art-3000.com/artist/?id=4537&s=1

Having a look at your art now, Jimmy...

[Will Dockery]

drive-by wrote:
>
> PS....here's my artwork (you might enjoy):
>
> Click images to enlarge
>
>
> http://www.art-3000.com/artist/?id=4537&s=1

I've seen some of these before, but well worth a second look, nice work my friend.

[George Sulzbach]

Having a look now, Jimmy, thanks.

[George Sulzbach]

Hello Jimmy, William says the letter sis not arrive today, so probably tomorrow... I sold plasma today so I have some cash at the moment. Thanks again for the concern... You Doc and his Brother Dave seem to be the only folks around who do give much of a damn.

Much respect and appreciation to you.

[George Sulzbach]

Oh yes, it just takes time for mail to come all he way from what, New Jersey?

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 10:29:23 PM UTC-4, drive-by wrote:

> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 10:25:47 PM UTC-4, George Sulzbach wrote:
> > Oh yes, it just takes time for mail to come all he way from what, New Jersey?
>

> New York, brother......

I think George may have gotten your location confused with Pendragon's?

Just a guess...

[Will Dockery]

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 3:15:21 AM UTC-4, drive-by wrote:

> no biggie

I suddenly am aware that I'm not completely well versed on your complete history, Jimmy, I know that when we first met (as newsgroup posters), your moniker Blackpool Jimmy led me to think you were British, but I think that was more complicated than that, and now I know you live and work in New York City, but before that, I find I am somewhat blank...

I'm basically there, though?

[Michael Pendragon]

With my birth state. I've lived in New York since 1992.

[George Sulzbach]

Hey Jimmy... Doc just told me the mail came in and he is on the way here.

A beautiful night in ... downtown on Broadway, listening to a Jimmy Buffet tribute tribue band and watching the lovely ladies, Sitting with Danny Barrington at the sidewalk coffee shop.

Thanks, friend... Karma be with you.

[George Sulzbach]

Jimmy, any idea on how I can make this iPad quote text on these messages?

[drive-by]

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 1:07:46 PM UTC-4, George Sulzbach wrote:
> Jimmy, any idea on how I can make this iPad quote text on these messages?

Can you in fact copy text and paste into your reply message? If not, I'm lost, sorry.

[Will Dockery]

Same here, without actually getting on the device and getting a feel for it. I'm pretty sure that after a while of playing around with Google Groups on George's "gizmo", I can make it respond correctly.

Next step will be somehow getting /George/ to understand whatever it is that needs to be done to get quoted text... it may very well be a simple flip of a digital "switch" or button on the settings of Google Groups.

Right now I have no idea but aim to find out...

[George Sulzbach]

Thanks, guys.

[George Sulzbach]

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 10:35:15 PM UTC-4, drive-by wrote:
> On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 9:36:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 5:37:21 PM UTC-4, George Sulzbach wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-4, drive-by wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 10:09:22 AM UTC-4, George Sulzbach wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Thank you Jimmy... I will meet with William this evening and devise a plan. Your offer of help is amazing and generous. I can make those dollars stretch for a bit, and hopefully some real employment will wing my way soon. Or perhaps the VA will have some good news for me this week.
> > > >
> > > > got to help each other, or the whole thing falls apart.
> > >
> > > Will be getting some info on here soon, thanks for the solidarity...
> >
> > I'll be out that way later, George, today has been a massive clusterfuck of errands and chores, everything from a flat tire to an oil change over to taking my 84 year old mother to her doctor appointment to getting her prescriptions filled... and a few fun moments worked in the mix here and there.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Jimmy, a thought... the quickest way to get some assistance to George would actually be using my P.O. Box, which I could deliver whatever care package you sent directly to Sulzbach. If that sounds acceptable, here it is:
> >
> > Will Dockery
> > P.O. Box 7394
> > Columbus GA 31908
> >
> > Anyone else who wants to write me there, feel free.
> >
> > :)
>
> I shall mail off $50 in the morning...cash for instant use....should be there by Wed. Thurs. Give me a shout when you get it .....(easy on the beer George, I'm thinking food...:-)
>
> J

Okay here you told me easy on the booze and I spent not a penny on that. I didn't see any requirement on where to spend the $50 and consider it a loan with you at the top ofy payback list, Jimmy. C

[George Sulzbach]

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 8:40:59 PM UTC-4, drive-by wrote:

> Stretch it brother....wish it could have been more...say hey to Will....
>
> J

Thanks, hoping to see Will and to apologize to Brother Dave as well.

[drive-by]

Now you want to insult me...please don't ...the money was not for three steak dinners but to see you a bit more comfortable considering I assumed you were basically homeless....no more on the subject, George.

[George Sulzbach]

No insult intended, Jimmy. Hopefully I will be able to return the $$$ relatively soon, is all. I will send it, when possible, to you.

And again, absolutely no insult intended but rather my thanks for your concern... It was appreciated.

[George Sulzbach]

No, I bought no beer with the $$$.

[drive-by]

On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:57:44 AM UTC-4, George Sulzbach wrote:
> No, I bought no beer with the $$$.

Shelved.

[George Sulzbach]

I know but less us put it behind us now relighting?

[George Sulzbach]

After that, maybe down to Miami with my brother Jeff.

[George Sulzbach]

Might sell my car to get s bus ticket for that.

[George Sulzbach]

True or just trade it for a bus ticket to Miami.

[drive-by]

On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 6:17:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:42:40 PM UTC-4, drive-by wrote:
> > Set up a fund for your friend George... post details, I'll donate....
>
> Jim, and Richard, I'm not sure if y'all were aware of the car accident last year that we attribute a lot of the problems George Sulzbach is facing /now/, I think that not only does he drink and use drugs too much, he is also, I highly suspect, shell shocked:
>
> http://accidentdatacenter.com/us/alabama/columbus-ga/phenix-city/15/08/13/sydne-conder-59-killed-and-george-sulzbach-wounded-2-vehicle-wreck-us-highway-431-north-phenix-city
>
> Sydne Conder, 59, killed and George Sulzbach wounded in 2 vehicle wreck on U.S. Highway 431 north of Phenix City, Alabama
>
> Modified Date: 
> Sun, 09/11/2016 - 7:42am
> Accident Date: 
> Thursday, August 13, 2015
>
> 1 dead, 1 injured in 2-vehicle wreck in Lee County
> A two-vehicle wreck on Thursday claimed the life of a Smiths Station woman, and left another person injured, according to Alabama State Troopers. Sydne Conder, 59, was killed when the 1994 Chevrolet Metro she was driving collided with a 2011 Chevrolet Corvette. Conder, who was not wearing a seat belt at the time of the accident, was pronounced dead at the scene. A passenger in the Metro was transported to a local hospital with unspecified injuries. The crash occurred on U.S. Highway 431, approximately four miles north of Phenix City at the 120 mile marker.
>
> Type: Car Accident
> Topics: 
> Seat Belt Usage
> People Involved: 
> Sydne Conder
> George Sulzbach
> Roadway: 
> U.S. Highway 431
> City: 
> Phenix City, AL
> County: 
> Russell County, AL
> Area: 
> Columbus, GA
>
> And so it went.

Jim, and Richard, I'm not sure if y'all were aware of the car accident last year that we attribute a lot of the problems George Sulzbach is facing /now/, I think that not only does he drink and use drugs too much, he is also, I highly suspect, shell shocked....


If his drinking and drugging "too much" was knowledge that I had before hand, I would not have donated to the cause, which I thought was homelessness.....George and I have "shelved" this disagreement...follow our lead.

As far as "shell shocked", I'll save that diagnosis for the vets I know who indeed have PTSD....so Will, lets put this to rest...it's a new week...

[Will Dockery]

The main cause of homelessness is drink and drugs, I think had been established?

That's why I think it best I return your money to you, Jim, since you obviously feel you made a big mistake sending George the money, and I don't blame you a bit.

So, again, I'll be glad to reimburse you on behalf of George, with no hard feelings.

Fair enough?

[drive-by]

On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 7:39:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> The main cause of homelessness is drink and drugs, I think had been established?

I don't know the stats....I'm sure that is one cause...I'm sure there are many causes but that is not in debate...key words, for me, were left out of the dilemma and that is my fault for acting before thinking..

>
> That's why I think it best I return your money to you, Jim, since you obviously feel you made a big mistake sending George the money, and I don't blame you a bit.

I thought this was already discussed....it has been "shelved" ..please Will, enough on this....

>
> So, again, I'll be glad to reimburse you on behalf of George, with no hard feelings.
>
> Fair enough?

I am not looking for reimbursement...I have moved on, there are many problems I focus on...George is no longer on that list. I wish him well.

Fair enough?

[Rachel]

omg, you scared me. but then i remembered...it's old news.

[drive-by]

On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 12:22:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

> Okay, my friend.
>
> My main focus here is on us, and our rather lengthy friendship itself... almost a decade we have known each other, although online, digital, we are communicators, writers, and thus we have a pretty strong bond already. I hate seeing that put in jeopardy because of George, who has already come and gone from this group, apparently.
>
> Well, he will supposedly be returning when he is able and has access to a computer, but with the trials he has coming, I doubt he will have the time or energy now that he has his sister and brother-in-law in charge of his immediate future.
>
> I suspect it will be a nose to the grindstone few days, weeks, as they focus on getting him cleaned up, de-toxed, employed, the while nine yards... if even they can tame the savage art beast.
>
> So, I will second your call of "shelved", I think all the matters are settled, you knw that my offer to you stands (off group, just us, man to man) just say the word in email and it shall be done.
>
> One thing I DO want to do for you is get you a copy of my CD "Shadowville Speedway", which contains some tracks not available online, all I need is for you to email me your mailing addres to will.d...@gmail.com and I'll ship one of those (and maybe a t-shirt, what's your size?) this week.
>
> Here's samples and information on the "Shadowville Speedway" CD album:
>
> http://artemisrecords.net/wp/product/will-dockery-shadowville-speedway-2/
>
> I would really like to get you one of these, Jim, and have a nice mint copy laying right here on my desk as I type this.
>
> Let me know, let's shelve the bad vibes, and get back to creativity...
>
> Sounds like a plan?

Will..the bad vibes do not exist...the whole affair had nothing but good intentions involved...you understand me, I understand you. My immediate thoughts went to giving a boy scout a donation and seeing him later downing a brew and a puff in an alley somewhere...but that is gone and quite frankly I find it OK you guys chewed on some steak via me...:-) So let's hold on to those kind offers...because one day I just might take you up on it....jingle bells comes to mind...


J
Now, for now, I have some poetry to write....

[Will Dockery]

On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 7:39:57 AM UTC-4, I wrote:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/JKyD11IQGdI/bAlJY9MnAwAJ

This is probably the first time I offered to return the money Jim Senetto sent for General Zod, the first of many.

Now the money has been returned, or given to someone worthy at Jim's suggestion... it would be a good time to move on, everyone agreed?

[Michael Pendragon]

It paints a telling portrait, Will. I don't think any of us will be forgetting it anytime soon.

[Will Dockery]

I offered to refund the money, that was the best I could offer.

Jim and I settled it yesterday, why do you want to keep it stirred up, Pendragon?

[Michael Pendragon]

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 10:27:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> I offered to refund the money, that was the best I could offer.
>
> Jim and I settled it yesterday, why do you want to keep it stirred up, Pendragon?
>

I didn't bring it up. I'm merely correcting your perception of it.

[Will Dockery]

My perception of it is correct, it's not your business, Pendragon.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 10:39:09 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> My perception of it is correct, it's not your business, Pendragon.

Sure, Will. It's just poor little misunderstood you against the world.

[Will Dockery]

My position is understood by those without your negative agenda, Pendragon.

😀

[Michael Pendragon]

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> My position is understood by those without your negative agenda, Pendragon.

My only "agenda" is to help someone I've considered to be a friend to recognize the error of his ways.

I know, interventions suck.

[Will Dockery]

Put that way, I appreciate your concern, Pen.

[ME]

Pen, I wasn't going to comment on this ridiculous $50 shit this morning.
You just told him what everyone else was thinking.

[Chafetz Chayim benAvraham]

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 7:39:09 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> My perception of it is correct, it's not your business, Pendragon.

Shalom & Boker tov, Will...you did an honourable thing last night, paying back a gift. You stole no money, nor did you solicit money. The trolls are vicious liars, without validity. There was no 'concern' for you, Will, but manipulation and fraud.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג...לעולם לא עוד
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT

[Will Dockery]

"ME" wrote in message
news:d9ce2769-4471-4656...@googlegroups.com...

>
> Pen, I wasn't going to comment on this

Then, since it isn't any of your business... don't.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
news:ec376100-b75a-406d...@googlegroups.com...

> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 10:27:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> I offered to refund the money, that was the best I could offer.
>
>> Jim and I settled it yesterday, why do you want to keep it stirred up,
>> Pendragon?
>
> I didn't bring it up.

I know you are aware Jim and I settled it yesterday, why not let it cool
down a bit before stirring it all up again?

[Chafetz Chayim benAvraham]

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 8:46:01 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> I know you are aware Jim and I settled it yesterday, why not let it cool
> down a bit before stirring it all up again?

Will...ignore the disgraced troll. You and I both know these parasites crave attention, and lying, and creating yet a new sandbox. You did your honourable deed yesterday, walk away from PsychoBarney. These people are not artists or poets, and cannot discuss what should be a focus here. It rarely is, unless you or George introduce facets of the history of poetry.

[mydemon...@gmail.com]

She's part of the intervention, Will.

[mydemon...@gmail.com]

You owe a lot of people here a lot of BIG apologies.

None of this will ever cool down until you realize how you continually screw everyone else here over ... and over ... and over.

[Will Dockery]

That's bullshit, Pendragon.

Although it has begun to write some poetry lately, "Me" stalked me here from
Topix Forums over a year ago, with zero ambition but to become a troll here,
to harass me.

[Will Dockery]

You owe my son an apology for the nasty lies you put in your poem about him,
Pen.

He's a Regular on the Facebook version of this group, let's make that
happen, you know you were wrong.

:)

[mydemon...@gmail.com]

ME knew you on Topix. You invited ME from Topix.

Did you ever think that maybe ME has good reason to be pissed off with you?

She seems like a very nice person (she's even making a valiant attempt to befriend Rachel).

Maybe she'd like to see you change for the better as well.

[Will Dockery]

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message

news:e4d4e312-94e4-4af2...@googlegroups.com...
>
> misunderstood

No reason for you to misunderstand, Jim sent money down for Zod, and then
wanted it back.

Zod is in Florida and will never pay him or anyone back, so I returned Jim's
money.

We settled the problem, and it isn't your business either way, anyhow.

[Chafetz Chayim benAvraham]

Will...you and I both know he is a psychotic disgraced liar, who is unstable, and hardly a poet. He will never apologise to you because he is incapable of functioning in reality. You and I both know he is playing in his diaper. Ignore him, Will. He is an emotional fascist.

[mydemon...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 12:11:47 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> news:e4d4e312-94e4-4af2...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > misunderstood
>
> No reason for you to misunderstand, Jim sent money down for Zod, and then
> wanted it back.
>
> Zod is in Florida and will never pay him or anyone back, so I returned Jim's
> money.

No, Will, you didn't. You gave the money to your daughter.

> We settled the problem, and it isn't your business either way, anyhow.

You've settled the issue of the money.

You've also destroyed your friendship with Jim in the process.

You need to take a long, hard look at the way you treat others, and realize that there's a reason people have been "maliciously" trolling you for twenty years.

Once you understand, you can start to correct the problem.

[mydemon...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 12:11:57 PM UTC-4, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 9:00:05 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > You owe my son an apology for the nasty lies you put in your poem about him,
> > Pen.
> >
> > He's a Regular on the Facebook version of this group, let's make that
> > happen, you know you were wrong.
> >
> > :)
>
> Will...you and I both know he is a psychotic disgraced liar, who is unstable, and hardly a poet. He will never apologise to you because he is incapable of functioning in reality. You and I both know he is playing in his diaper. Ignore him, Will. He is an emotional fascist.
>

Fuck off, smarmy little toad.

[Will Dockery]

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
news:e4d4e312-94e4-4af2...@googlegroups.com...
>

> Sure, Will.

While you're in such an agreeable state, Pendragon, you can go to the
Facebook poetry page and apologize to my son, who I've tagged there.

TIA, old friend.

:)