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Harold is working on this (might already be done) - yes it's a good idea to have one central location!
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Hello, Leaders,The website migration is underway, with nearly all repositories having been created already. Not everyone has been added to your respective repositories; that is an on-going process. We now have a general document detailing the content in your repository at https://www2.owasp.org/migration
A nice-to-accomplish goal would be to get the chapters and projects migrated in the next 30 days.Regards,
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Several of us on staff do monitor this list - I do it through digest mode. We will not always be immediately responsive to every question. Kevin, I'm sorry if a mistake was made for a user name, so please let us know there are other issues. (BTW I did check the github migration form, and that was the username provided).
We do want to thank everyone for their feedback on this immense project. OWASP is in the active step of migrating a large site (close to 7,000 pages - some active, some abandoned, many conflicting with one another), with a great many content editors (about 3,000), and over 500 distinct user credential configurations. I understand some of the leaders don't like our repo convention, but I do want to report that others do. When we kicked off this project we consulted directly with Github on this design and due to a number of factors, including but not limited to, credential management, the requirement for global navigation and style sheets, long-term maintenance and simplicity, this is the design was selected and will be used for launch. We did not want to add too much novel new frameworks or libraries for longevity, security, stability, and reliability reasons - there is always a new-better-than-ever-framework launched nearly every week.
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As everyone is likely aware, the website migration idea has been floating around since something like 2016. When I came onboard in 2018 it was again brought up. Each time it seems that various issues got in the way of progress. Most often it has been turnover in the OWASP Foundation staff. We have finally begun to see progress toward an actual migration with Mike's decision to make it a priority for 2019. I can provide some of the details that a few of you have been lacking.
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As everyone is likely aware, the website migration idea has been floating around since something like 2016. When I came onboard in 2018 it was again brought up. Each time it seems that various issues got in the way of progress. Most often it has been turnover in the OWASP Foundation staff. We have finally begun to see progress toward an actual migration with Mike's decision to make it a priority for 2019. I can provide some of the details that a few of you have been lacking.
The initial staff project plan was begun in February. You can find the current iteration of that plan under the Staff Projects page on the website for the Website Migration. The migration plan was announced in May at Global AppSec TelAviv. The naming convention has been documented since June and the migration was announced in the July Connector as well. More details were again provided at the Global AppSec DC and Amsterdam meetings.
The decision to use github pages was done for a variety of reasons: static website, easy to understand markdown for people not familiar with html/css, the fact that the vast majority of you and most other open source software communities use it (github specifically, not necessarily pages), credential management, the reliability of github pages, the built-in ability to watch various repos and pages, etc. Further, most of our projects and event sites reside in github already.
Regarding the decision to use our projects github repo for the website, I apologize for cluttering the space. I know many of you probably regularly browse the repos looking for the latest updates and it is difficult to filter the various repositories if you don't know what you are looking for... I initially fought for keeping the 'www' sites in a separate organizational repo but the simple argument that most of the github users in OWASP already reside in the OWASP org repositories won me over.
As for the naming scheme issues, this has been answered and I apologize if the answer doesn't sit well with some of you. I have been in touch with github regarding the use of permalinks in repositories that reside under an org pages site. I am awaiting their answer and I will let you know when I hear something. Essentially, I would like to see permalinks work with our setup the way you think they should: if I put a permalink: /zap in www-project-zap, for instance, I would want the www2.owasp.org/zap link to point to the right place. Currently, it does not (it will instead work like: www2.owasp.org/www-project-zap/zap).
With regard to the various chapter, project,and committee repositories that have already been set up, please do as Kevin suggests and make sure the users that were added match what you think it should.
Kevin, I apologize for my handling of the secretsquirrell username; I initially replied that the name was what I was given because, when I looked, the username in github matched the username I have on file (I didn't realize you had already changed it). One of the reasons I mentioned above for moving to github pages was so that we had better credential management than the wiki where anyone or their next of kin could update a project/chapter/committee page without the owner's consent and adding people incorrectly doesn't help get us there.
Moving forward, we have a great many challenges ahead. Not least among these is marking content that does not reside in a project, chapter, committee, or foundation policy area that we want to make sure gets migrated to the new site. We have contracted a company to help with SEO, redirects, and page identification but we would certainly appreciate community involvement in identifying 'loose' pages that are still relevant. Further, we have over 420 chapters and projects combined. Of those 420, only around 100 have at least one person who provided a github username - your fellow leaders could use a nudge. You can point them to https://owasp.wufoo.com/forms/q1mfqvds1ig96mh/ where they can provide github usernames.
One of the best ways to provide your feedback is through the use of an already existing github feature: open an issue. For issues and problems regarding the website theme, use the repository www--site-theme. For issues with the main website, use the owasp.github.io repository. For other issues, use the respective chapter, staff, policy, or project repository; if you are not sure of the repository, try typing 'www-project' or 'www-chapter' or 'www-policy' into the repository filter bar to start your search. Anyone can open an issue. And anyone can go to the bottom of any of the pages on the website and 'Edit on Github' to submit a pull request.
A number of you have already volunteered to help move the migration forward, including migrating your projects and chapters as examples for others to follow, and I thank you. If you are interested in helping in a more hands-on level, you may send me an email and I will add you to our trello board and we can work together toward a functional, migrated OWASP website.
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