Proposal: Definition of membership

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Ken Moellman

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Dec 26, 2022, 4:00:28 AM12/26/22
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Proposing as a two-part proposal; the second is brought forward if the first one passes.

Cleanup the definition of membership. This is a mess created a decade ago when dues were temporarily removed and then returned in a weird way ("sustaining membership"). 

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Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
Executive Director
Libertarian Party of Kentucky
Bylaws Proposal - Membership definition.docx

Secretary LNC

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Dec 26, 2022, 1:33:15 PM12/26/22
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Thank you Mr. Moellman, today is no-LP date day in the mountains but I'll take a look upon my return.

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Paul Bracco

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Jan 13, 2023, 10:10:40 AM1/13/23
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Colleagues,

I would like to propose the attached amendment to this proposal at our next meeting.

Sincerely,
Paul Bracco

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Proposal C-a1 - Membership definition - amendment.docx

Secretary LNC

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Jan 13, 2023, 3:24:16 PM1/13/23
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I am speaking with Mr. Moellman and the Party Chair offline about any potential use of the word "member" by staff that does not include Pledge signers, and will make any appropriate Points of Order as an LNC member if it turns out that the word "member" is used for non-Pledge signers and it is not corrected, as that would be a violation of the bylaws.  I honestly do not believe this is happening, but I am investigating as promised.

As such I intend upon offering the following substitute as I do not think Bylaws Article IV is in fact confusing at all.  (The rest of the proposal potentially clarifying that sustaining membership is required for some committees I believe is properly handled separately if my substitute is accepted)

ARTICLE 4: MEMBERSHIP

1.     Members of the Party shall be exclusively those persons who have certified in writing that they oppose the initiation of force to achieve political or social goals.

2.     The National Committee may offer life memberships and must honor all prior and future life memberships.

  1. The National Committee may create other levels of membership and shall determine the contribution or dues levels for such memberships.
  2. “Sustaining members” are members of the Party who:

a.     During the prior 12 months have donated, or have had donated on their behalf, an amount of at least $25; or

b.     Are Life members.

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In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos
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Secretary LNC

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Jan 13, 2023, 3:25:23 PM1/13/23
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To be clear, I intend upon offering the substitute when in order.  It would not be in order until after the Bracco amendment is disposed of, and whether the Bracco amendment is adopted or not has no bearing on my susbstitute.

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Frank Martin

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Jan 13, 2023, 3:42:20 PM1/13/23
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I am new to the discussion of membership categories here, please forgive any irrelevance.

I don't expect to vote for any proposal that attaches the word "member" to anyone who has not signed the non-aggression pledge. Within those bounds, I'd be happy to assist in finding clarifying language. I would suggest perhaps donor or subscriber.

I also do not like sustaining member very much in its current definition. I have encountered that term elsewhere to mean someone making monthly payments.

Each person could be dropped in at the top of this list and fall through until an item catches them:
  • life member per current definition, including signed pledge
  • sustaining member = member making monthly payments of $5 or more, after their first cumulative payments equal or exceed the base dues amount ($25)
  • member = paid annual dues (current), signed pledge
    • former member
  • donor = made donation
  • newsletter subscriber, etc.
  • null
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Frank Martin
Chairman, Free Libertarian Party of New Mexico

Secretary LNC

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Jan 13, 2023, 3:45:30 PM1/13/23
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Honestly if what was believed to be happening with the staff is not in fact happening or if it is, the LNC is willing to correct it, there is really NO problem here to be addressed and is a solution looking for a problem.

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Secretary LNC

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Jan 13, 2023, 3:46:12 PM1/13/23
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The Policy Manual language that Mr. Moellman was referring to no longer exists.  That was deleted months ago by the LNC.

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Secretary LNC

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Jan 13, 2023, 3:48:28 PM1/13/23
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Here is the proposal sheet for my substitute.

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LNC Secretary and LP Historical Preservation Committee Chair ~ 561.523.2250

Proposal C Substitute - Define Membership.docx
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