Question about tidal forcing source in ESPC-D-V02

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muh nurhidayat

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Aug 23, 2025, 6:40:02 AMAug 23
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Hello,

I am working with the HYCOM ESPC-D-V02 system and I see in the description that this version includes eight tidal constituents (whereas ESPC-D-V01 only used five). However, I could not find information about the source of the tidal data/forcing that was used for this system.

Could you clarify:

What tidal model or dataset was used to provide the eight tidal constituents in ESPC-D-V02?

Is there a reference or documentation where this information is described in more detail?


Thank you in advance.

Alan Wallcraft

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Aug 23, 2025, 8:43:40 AMAug 23
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The forcing is astronomical (the Sun and Moon) and initialized in subroutine tides_set (mod_tides.F90).  The only complicated part is the nodal corrections:

! argUMENTS and ASTROL subroutines SUPPLIED by RICHARD RAY, March 1999

We often use five tidal constituents, rather than the full eight available in HYCOM, because this allows a tidal analysis from 28 days of hourly fields:

   2      'tidflg' = TIDES: tidal forcing flag    (0=no;1=bdy;2=body;3=bdy&body)
   2      'tidein' = TIDES: tide field input flag (0=no;1=yes;2=sal)
00011111  'tidcon' = TIDES: 1 digit per (Q1K2P1N2O1K1S2M2), 0=off,1=on

The tidein=2 option indicates that we are reading in the SAL constituents, i.e. we are using the observed SAL.   In order to improve the S2 tide, ESPC-D also includes atmospheric pressure forcing.

If all 8 tidal constituents, are included the analysis requires about 6 months of hourly fields.  

So ESPC-D-V01 inherited its five tidal constituents from the usual HYCOM with tides setup.  It should have used all eight, and that oversight was corrected in ESPC-D-V02.  Both include the  Ngodock et al (2016) ASEnKF correction.  

Note that ESPC-D-V02 is assimilating T & S & SSH, but it is not assimilating tides.  For example. the deep water global mean RMS error vs TPXO10atlas (which does assimilate tides) is 2.02 cm and its Atlantic error is 3.37 cm.  These are very good results for a non-assimilative global OGCM.  See Tidal Analysis of ESPC-D-V02.

For more information, see:

B.K. Arbic, M.H. Alford, J.K. Ansong, M.C. Buijsman, E.J. Metzger, H.E. Ngodock, J.G. Richman, J.F. Shriver, I. Souopgui, A.J. Wallcraft, L. Zamudio, et. al. 2018

A Primer on Global Internal Tide and Internal Gravity Wave Continuum Modeling in HYCOM and MITgcm

H.E. Ngodock, I. Souopgui, A.J. Wallcraft, J.G. Richman, J.F. Shriver and B.K. Arbic 2016

On improving the accuracy of the M2 barotropic tides embedded in a high-relolution global ocean circulation model

Alan.

muh nurhidayat

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Aug 23, 2025, 5:09:42 PMAug 23
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Thank you for the information! 
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