Intent to Extend Experiment: Conditional Focus

[Elad Alon]

Hi Blink owners,

We'd like to extend the Conditional Focus experiment. It is currently running m102-m105, and we'd like to extend by 3 additional milestones, making it m102-m108 (inclusive).

Contact emails

elad...@chromium.org

Explainer

https://github.com/WICG/conditional-focus/blob/main/README.md

Specification

https://wicg.github.io/conditional-focus

Design docs

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHJRt-ry9hwzFTbPxKrmD0VvtEFEU6lvqsD7k6wwGKM

Summary

Extend the getDisplayMedia() APIs to ensure that tab-capture and window-capture return a new subclass of MediaStreamTrack called FocusableMediaStreamTrack. This new subclass exposes the focus() method. This new method allows Web-applications, when capture starts, to decide whether the captured tab/window should be immediately focused, or whether the capturing tab+window should remain the focused one.

Blink component

Blink

TAG review

https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/679

TAG review status

Pending

Risks

Interoperability and Compatibility

Gecko: No signal

WebKit: No signal

Web developers: No signals

Other signals:

Ergonomics

N/A

Activation

Not challenging - just feature-detect: // Pre-existing functionality: const mediaStream = await navigator.mediaDevices.getDisplayMedia(); const [track] = mediaStream.getVideoTracks(); // New functionality behind feature-detection: if (!!track.focus) { track.focus(...); }

Security

See design-doc.

Reason this experiment is being extended

0. Some relevant background: Originally, this feature ended up ready and in Origin Trial quite some time before our partners were ready to take advantage and participate in the experiment. The OT was therefore shifted and restarted multiple times, eventually landing on the range of m102-m105. Our partners are now ready and have started rolling out code taking advantage of this feature - so far internally within their organization, and soon to the general public.

1. More time is required for our partners' deliberate rollout to reach more users, allowing these partners to provide more accurate, battle-tested feedback.

2. Mozilla and Apple have both engaged positively with the proposal (see here). Mozilla has made a proposal for a general change to getDisplayMedia(), and suggested that the API shape of Conditional Focus should be altered to fit that new shape. The added complexity of tying Conditional Focus to adjacent API changes prolongs the time to finalize Conditional Focus. While this is ongoing, we should keep supporting partners who have invested engineering time in this OT.

We are therefore requesting extension by 3 milestones, making the experiment run for m102-m108 (inclusive).

Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?

Supported on all Desktop platforms, but not on any mobile platforms.

Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?

No

Flag name

ConditionalFocus

Tracking bug

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1215480

Launch bug

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1214483

Estimated milestones

OriginTrial desktop last	105 (but extension to 108 hereby requested)
OriginTrial desktop first	102

Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status

https://chromestatus.com/feature/5646614535340032

Links to previous Intent discussions

Intent to prototype: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/lbuqOGx07xY
Intent to Experiment: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/I4RE2pbocTg

This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status.

[Mike Taylor]

LGTM to extend to M108 inclusive.

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[Elad Alon]

Hello Blink owners. The WebRTC WG has reached rough consensus on Conditional Focus. The conclusions are summarized in these two threads (190, 230), and most recently in this comment. It is now on me to produce a PR, get it through review, and then align the Chromium implementation with it. It's not likely that all of this will be done before m109 branches. I therefore request that the OT be extended by 3 additional milestones (up to and including m111). This will allow us to finalize Conditional Focus work without penalizing the partners that have been kind enough to participate in the trial and provide feedback. It would also help that we'll have more time to get feedback.

[Yoav Weiss]

Can you send a separate extension intent for this? Thanks! :)

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[Elad Alon]

Hi Blink owners,

We'd like to extend the Conditional Focus experiment again. It is currently running m102-m108, and we'd like to extend by 3 additional milestones, making it m102-m111 (inclusive).

There has been significant progress in discussions lately, and we have a new API shape which has rough consensus in the WG. However, it will take time to fully finalize that shape's fine details, align the implementation and ship. During this time, we'd like to (1) show consideration to our partners and (2) keep their feedback coming in. The latter is especially true given that a major partner is about to start experimenting on real users, which will provide even more useful feedback than thus far (when they only prototyped and tested internally).

The WebRTC WG has reached rough consensus on Conditional Focus. The conclusions are summarized in these two threads (190, 230), and most recently in this comment. It is now on me to produce a PR, get it through review, and then align the Chromium implementation with it. 

It's not likely that all of this will be done before m109 branches. I therefore request that the OT be extended by 3 additional milestones (up to and including m111). This will allow us to finalize Conditional Focus work without penalizing the partners that have been kind enough to participate in the trial and provide feedback. It would also help that we'll have more time to get feedback from a major partner, who has only provided feedback based on prototypes thus far, but who will soon have feedback based on an experiment with real users.

We are therefore requesting extension by 3 milestones, making the experiment run for m102-m111 (inclusive).

Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?

Supported on all Desktop platforms, but not on any mobile platforms.

Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?

No

Flag name

ConditionalFocus

Tracking bug

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1215480

Launch bug

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1214483

Estimated milestones

OriginTrial desktop last	108 (but extension to 111 hereby requested)
OriginTrial desktop first	102

Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status

https://chromestatus.com/feature/5646614535340032

Links to previous Intent discussions

Intent to prototype: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/lbuqOGx07xY
Intent to Experiment: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/I4RE2pbocTg

Intent to Extend Experiment: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/CLmSojRQHoc

[Elad Alon]

Turns out that sending a second email with the exact same subject line, gets the message routed to the original thread. Interesting. I'll use another subject line now. :-)

[Elad Alon]

The new thread is now here: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/R90_BzkM_jY

[Yoav Weiss]

LGTM to extend experimentation till 111 inclusive. Thanks for working on standardizing this, and landing the PRs.

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