rePulish crx in web sotre is OK?

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Zoom.Quiet

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May 16, 2012, 6:33:54 AM5/16/12
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rePublish crx for fixed some error, when author disappear is OK?
- i'm chinese, notice some crx is great,but ebglish only
- so i fixed as Internationalizing
- but the crx author is disappear, not update crx so long
- so i can not push diff into author, so make original edition crx
upgrade in web store
- so i usage self google id, rename the crx and publish into web store
- e.g the crx name is XYZ
- so i publish as zh.XYZ
- and in manifest.json keep original author info.

can i doing this? and is OK? not break copy right something?

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PhistucK

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May 16, 2012, 8:38:11 AM5/16/12
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I am not a lawyer, but I believe you cannot do anything without an explicit permission from the author of the extension.
If the author disappeared, too bad - there is pretty much nothing you can do.

PhistucK




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Zoom.Quiet

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May 16, 2012, 9:00:43 AM5/16/12
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2012/5/16 PhistucK <phis...@gmail.com>:
> I am not a lawyer, but I believe you cannot do anything without an explicit
> permission from the author of the extension.
> If the author disappeared, too bad - there is pretty much nothing you can
> do.
>
Yes ! i guess too
- but,in default what kind of License for crx in web store?
- i not found document explanation this
- and think about software 's license
- crx is only js+html,and all can view in chromium
- which means default is publish domain license?
- or means OpenSource license same
- esp. crx not base Licensing API for payable ?!
- or crx is pure copyright about words not software?
- so the rePublish is equal "Piracy" ?!
- so if i not rePublish as web store crx, only share in my blog ?

Mnnn...
whatever that is suck! author gone...

PhistucK

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May 16, 2012, 9:56:00 AM5/16/12
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(Again, I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advise.)
I think the default is the default of anything - no one is allowed to take/copy your stuff unless you explicitly let them.
Any software that costs nothing is unnecessarily free software with a permissive license.
The default is not public domain.
HTML/JS/CSS is the same as any software. The only difference is that it is easier to view their source (legally or illegally).

PhistucK

daPhyre

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May 16, 2012, 3:30:38 PM5/16/12
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As PhistucK said, when strictly talking about copyright, the original code belongs absolutely to the owner, and despite being "OpenSource" it doesn't mean "FreeSoftware", so you can't do anything to it without the owner permission.

Now, if you say there is no way to contact the author, and he hasn't updated his software in a while, what could be done is consider it as "Abandonware", and so you could do what you want inside this "legally gray area" (Not legal, but neither a high copyright infringement), within a moral code:

-You should all the time mention that this is not your work and give credit to the original author.
-You should do your best to not to make the original abandoned (For example, don't include english language and encourage to english speakers to install the original, and so).
-You should keep trying to contact the author to merge your work with the original, or to get his true permission for you to keep doing what you do.
-If the author appears and asks you to stop using his code, you should respect his decision (He is still the owner and if you reject this petition, he can legally make you to stop using his code).

As I said, it is a legally gray area, and is your exclusive decision whether you do so or not. You do this, after all, for a community that can have a better time with this alternative version, and you are not getting any profit from this. Still, if you fully respect copyright as it must, you shouldn't do this without explicit permission of the author.

Zoom.Quiet

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May 16, 2012, 9:26:55 PM5/16/12
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2012/5/17 daPhyre <daph...@gmail.com>:
> As PhistucK said, when strictly talking about copyright, the original code
> belongs absolutely to the owner, and despite being "OpenSource" it doesn't
> mean "FreeSoftware", so you can't do anything to it without the owner
> permission.
>
> Now, if you say there is no way to contact the author, and he hasn't updated
> his software in a while, what could be done is consider it as "Abandonware",
> and so you could do what you want inside this "legally gray area" (Not
> legal, but neither a high copyright infringement), within a moral code:
>
> -You should all the time mention that this is not your work and give credit
> to the original author.
> -You should do your best to not to make the original abandoned (For example,
> don't include english language and encourage to english speakers to install
> the original, and so).
> -You should keep trying to contact the author to merge your work with the
> original, or to get his true permission for you to keep doing what you do.
> -If the author appears and asks you to stop using his code, you should
> respect his decision (He is still the owner and if you reject this petition,
> he can legally make you to stop using his code).
>
> As I said, it is a legally gray area, and is your exclusive decision whether
> you do so or not. You do this, after all, for a community that can have a
> better time with this alternative version, and you are not getting any
> profit from this. Still, if you fully respect copyright as it must, you
> shouldn't do this without explicit permission of the author.
>

Thanx so much! clear and feasible!
- means just for make things batter ,not reverse is OK
- and Google web store is not checking these cases ;-) ?
- because this is just business for me and author ...

> El miércoles, 16 de mayo de 2012 05:33:54 UTC-5, Zoom.Quiet escribió:
>>
>> rePublish crx for fixed some error, when author disappear is OK?
>> - i'm chinese, notice some crx is great,but ebglish only
>> - so i fixed as Internationalizing
>> - but the crx author is disappear, not update crx so long
>> - so i can not push diff into author, so make original edition crx
>> upgrade in web store
>> - so i usage self google id, rename the crx and publish into web store
>>   - e.g the crx name is XYZ
>>   - so i publish as zh.XYZ
>>   - and in manifest.json keep original author info.
>>
>> can i doing this? and is OK? not break copy right something?
>>
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daPhyre

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May 16, 2012, 9:59:47 PM5/16/12
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I don't know if Chrome Webstore checks general cases for plagiarism. I know it checks when an author says his code or trademark has been used without it's permission. And well, as you said before, the author seems to be missing for now.

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"Zoom.Quiet" <zoom....@gmail.com> escribió:

>rePublish crx for fixed some error, when author disappear is OK?
>- i'm chinese, notice some crx is great,but ebglish only
>- so i fixed as Internationalizing
>- but the crx author is disappear, not update crx so long
>- so i can not push diff into author, so make original edition crx
>upgrade in web store
>- so i usage self google id, rename the crx and publish into web store
> - e.g the crx name is XYZ
> - so i publish as zh.XYZ
> - and in manifest.json keep original author info.
>
>can i doing this? and is OK? not break copy right something?
>
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