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Paul Zuzelo

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Oct 27, 2022, 5:05:33 PM10/27/22
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This is the way that Durham ends...
This is the way that Durham ends...
This is the way that Durham ends...
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Patti Beadles

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Oct 27, 2022, 5:16:37 PM10/27/22
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The Durham Investigation hype was incredible-- it was going to shake up Washington, rock our intelligence communities and governments to their core, and turn up unprecedented levels of corruption, "the crime of the century".

What actually happened? One tiny guilty plea for something that wasn't particularly interesting or material, resulting in a slap-on-the-wrist probation. Two flimsy indictments--Danchenko and Sussman-- both of which ended in easy acquittals. A lot of taxpayer money wasted on misuse of our judicial system for a political ploy.

What Durham eventually proved is that there was no there there.

Contrast this with the Mueller Probe which resulted in a whole lot of indictments, guilty pleas, and convictions.

-P

Rick Charles

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Oct 27, 2022, 6:57:20 PM10/27/22
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Funny, I haven't seen the fat lady take the stage yet, let alone singing.

We shall see, 

RC

Chuck Breuninger a.k.a. Rick Charles
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Dave Tall

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Oct 27, 2022, 9:46:37 PM10/27/22
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The fat lady took the stage, fumbled her lines, tripped over a prop, left the stage, took an Uber home, and is halfway through her third bottle of wine. 

On Oct 27, 2022, at 4:57 PM, Rick Charles <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:



Patti Beadles

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Oct 27, 2022, 10:15:13 PM10/27/22
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Rick writes:

> Funny, I haven't seen the fat lady take the stage yet, let alone singing.

Well, the Durham grand jury has expired and there appear to be no plans to convene another one. Inside sources say that he is working to have a final report by the end of the year.

Do you agree that baed current evidence he hasn't turned up much of significance, let alone "the crime of the century"?

-P

P.S. It looks like his final report is already on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx2Z5ZD_Rbo

Patti Beadles

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Oct 27, 2022, 10:20:21 PM10/27/22
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>Do you agree that baed current evidence

Ugh, my typing. "based on current evidence"...

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Paul Zuzelo

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Oct 28, 2022, 10:26:35 AM10/28/22
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As reported in a news story about the first Durham allegation to reach a trial:

WASHINGTON (TND) — In the wake of former Clinton campaign attorney Michael Sussmann being acquitted of lying to the FBI, comments from the jury foreperson in the trial are catching people's attention on social media.

“Personally, I don’t think it should have been prosecuted because I think we have better time or resources to use or spend to other things that affect the nation as a whole than a possible lie to the FBI. We could spend that time more wisely,” said the foreperson of the jury in Sussmann’s case, according to Politico.

The seemingly bottomless ability of MAGA Republicans to delude themselves into believing the seemingly endless lies of MAGA Republicans ensures that these dangerous and baseless attacks on American democracy will continue.  I'm sure Durham's "final report" will contain the usual excuses for why his investigation was such a miserable failure and monumental waste of taxpayer's money.


Rick Charles

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Oct 28, 2022, 11:28:16 AM10/28/22
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My source tells me that the trial was simply an exercise in exposing the FBI 7th floor and their collusion with HRC campaign, the DNC and others which I think the testimony in evidence did a really good job of.

Secondly I'm told that there may be at least 2 still sealed indictments and that the Grand Jury was told to be available for recall in this/these matters.

So, no the fat lady has yet to take the stage, and is waiting in the wings warming up her voice (I'm told).

Chuck Breuninger a.k.a. Rick Charles
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Paul Zuzelo

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Oct 28, 2022, 11:44:39 AM10/28/22
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I wrote:
"The seemingly bottomless ability of MAGA Republicans to delude themselves into believing the seemingly endless lies of MAGA Republicans ensures that these dangerous and baseless attacks on American democracy will continue.  I'm sure Durham's "final report" will contain the usual excuses for why his investigation was such a miserable failure and monumental waste of taxpayer's money."

Rick wrote:
"My source tells me that the trial was simply an exercise in exposing the FBI 7th floor and their collusion with HRC campaign, the DNC and others which I think the testimony in evidence did a really good job of.

Secondly I'm told that there may be at least 2 still sealed indictments and that the Grand Jury was told to be available for recall in this/these matters.

So, no the fat lady has yet to take the stage, and is waiting in the wings warming up her voice (I'm told)."

When this doesn't happen, will MAGA Republicans have the courage to acknowledge that Durham's investigation was an abject failure?  Or will they simply make excuses and move on to other delusions? 

Methinks the latter.  

Once you've made the jump from reality to fantasy, you're not constrained by logic or rational thought and you'll believe anything that another MAGA Republican "source" tells you.

Quick

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Oct 30, 2022, 12:52:03 AM10/30/22
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"not with a bang but a wimper"  I think that's coming after the midterms. Unfortunately I fear it will be less than a wimper and more of loud whining for 8 to10 years.

"The Durham Investigation hype was incredible"  You mean relative to the Jan 6 committee hype?
As for the expense... What's the bill on the Jan 6 witch hunt (including the FBI and Justice Deptartment participation and effort)? (I think Durham is waiting so his wrap-up isn't eclipsed by the cataclysmic, bombshell culmination of Liz's committee ...which is sure to come any day now). Did they decide they're still going to try to impeach Trump even though he's not President?

And by the way, it's really not nice to call Liz fat.

Patti Beadles

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Oct 30, 2022, 3:54:52 AM10/30/22
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Quick writes:

> As for the expense... What's the bill on the Jan 6 witch hunt (including
> the FBI and Justice Deptartment participation and effort)?

Paradoxically, it's no longer a witch hunt when you catch a bunch of witches.

We already have far more convictions and guilty pleas from January 6 than Durham had indictments from his entire investigation.

-P

Dave Horwitz

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Oct 30, 2022, 2:26:05 PM10/30/22
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Patti says: Paradoxically, it's no longer a witch hunt when you catch a bunch of witches.

I'm sorry I used the wrong pronoun. And you are correct, we did catch (and burn at the stake) a lot of witches a few years ago.

Patti says: The Durham Investigation hype was incredible...   A lot of taxpayer money wasted on misuse of our judicial system for a political ploy.

Quick says: What's the bill on the Jan 6 witch hunt (including the FBI and Justice Deptartment participation and effort)?

I thought you might want to put your claim into a bit of context.
Fiscally:
    Jan 6
    Many impeachments attempts with zero convictions
Misuse of our judicial system for a political ploy:
    Much is coming to light in this respect...
    It seems a large number of FBI whistle blowers are risking their careers
    to illuminate this.

I'm curious. What is your stance on the current Democratic campaign claims that the MAGA Republicans are responsible for the recent crime surge because they tried to defund the police?

Patti Beadles

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Oct 30, 2022, 3:38:12 PM10/30/22
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Quick writes:

>Fiscally:
> Jan 6
> Many impeachments attempts with zero convictions

I haven't been able to find a concise and up-to-date tracker for everything, but there have been over 900 indictments and hundreds of guilty pleas or convictions for January 6 including for seditious conspiracy. Both DOJ and the January 6 committee investigations are ongoing as they work their way up the ladder. The information presented by the committee has been pretty damning but has not yet resulted in indictments of high-level officials.

> I'm curious. What is your stance on the current Democratic campaign
> claims that the MAGA Republicans are responsible for the recent crime
> surge because they tried to defund the police?

I have no opinion because I have been aggressivley ignoring political ads.

-P

Paul Zuzelo

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Oct 30, 2022, 4:00:58 PM10/30/22
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Quick wrote: ""not with a bang but a wimper"  I think that's coming after the midterms. Unfortunately I fear it will be less than a wimper and more of loud whining for 8 to10 years."

It seems somehow appropriate that your misspelling of "whimper" as "wimper" creates a new English-language word (based on "wimp") that so aptly describes the Durham investigation.  No investigation could have been "wimper."

Thanks for the humor!
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