Institutions with Office 365

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Miguel Pellicer

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Oct 15, 2021, 6:39:27 AM10/15/21
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Hi folks,

I'm working with the Spanish Sakai Universities in a project definition
to provide a robust and a more complete integration of Office 365
products and services with Sakai. We're currently defining some
interesting use cases with products such as Teams, Groups, Streams,
OneDrive, Sharepoint, collaborative editor, etc

Is your institution using Office 365 products? What are the most
important features that your users are requesting?

Feel free to share ideas, we're still discussing and brainstorming
possibilities, but at the same time we'd want to be ambitious to have
the most integrated LMS in the market with Office 365.

Regards, Miguel

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Jennifer Loudiana

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Oct 15, 2021, 8:16:27 AM10/15/21
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Hi!
Yes we are an Office365 school. We use OneDrive, Stream and are starting to use Sharepoint more.

We are very interested in any integrations that will make things more seamless for our faculty and staff.

Jennifer Loudiana
Information Technology
330-490-7430
jlou...@walsh.edu

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Joshua Wilson

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Oct 15, 2021, 9:27:42 AM10/15/21
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Would it make sense to put this question on the agenda for either Teaching & Learning or UX?


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Stull, Tiffany (tls6u)

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Oct 15, 2021, 11:00:00 AM10/15/21
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Hi Josh,

 

I know some instructors who no longer use Sakai at all; they use Teams for everything in their courses because it’s more intuitive and allows for better collaboration/communication among students.

 

I think the most important piece to support these instructors and anyone wanting to share/collaborate on documents with just their class would be a tight roster/site membership integration.  Currently, instructors using Teams must send out individual invites to every student to add them to a team.  Similarly, if you want to share a document in O365 with everyone in your Sakai site, you either have to share it with each user individually or share with “everyone at the university”.  In many cases, instructors do not want to give access to their document to “everyone at the university” – they just want it available to their current class.

 

Ideally, the document sharing and Teams membership options would be group-aware for all groups in the site, so you could share a document with a particular roster or group, or create a team in Teams for each roster or group.

 

Other pieces that I would expect from a good integration:

  • You should not need to be taken to additional login screens to access your OneDrive content from your Sakai site and you should not need to click on anything specific within the site to “log into OneDrive”.  The behavior seen with Panopto LTI (where you must click on the tool in the menu to authenticate before you can play videos embedded in pages in the site) is unacceptable.
  • It should be easy to add Teams as a tool menu item like other tools.
  • You should be able to add a file within Resources from your OneDrive at a single click (like an Actions menu option to “Add File from OneDrive” that takes you into your OneDrive folder to select it).
  • You should be able to embed or link a file from OneDrive in Lessons at a single click.
  • You should be able to link files from OneDrive via the Add Attachments button in various tools.
  • ANYWHERE you add a file from OneDrive, the file’s sharing settings should automatically inherit the most logical permissions from the location where it is being added.  For example:
    • If it is a document being added to Resources in a folder available to a specific group, the file should pull in group membership as users with access to the file.  If a student is added to or removed from the group later, the file permissions need to automatically update to incorporate the newly-added student or remove the student who was removed from the group.
    • If the file is attached in a quiz, assignment, date-restricted Resources folder, etc. its sharing settings should similarly reflect the appropriate availability dates and the file should not be accessible via its direct link while the item in question is not available to students.
  • If it is not possible to inherit permissions intelligently, the instructor should be warned with an appropriate, meaningful, and screen-reader accessible message that they should check the permissions on the file.  Ideally, it should also provide a direct link to go to the sharing settings for the document.
  • The “Import from Site” feature needs to properly migrate OneDrive links by updating sharing settings on the documents to incorporate participants from the new site as needed.

 

One other note: As I personally don’t like Teams very much and only use it when I have to, I don’t know what the expected behavior would be for Teams on using “Import from Site” – I assume it would create a new team in the new site, but I’m not sure how the document sharing works in Teams and what should be expected to copy.

 

Tiffany

Joshua Wilson

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Oct 15, 2021, 1:18:53 PM10/15/21
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Thanks, Tiffany!  Some great insights there. What do others think?

alaanizar

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Oct 15, 2021, 1:39:13 PM10/15/21
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+1 for Josh remarks 



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Objet : RE: [sakai-dev] RE: [sakai-user] Institutions with Office 365

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alaanizar

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Oct 15, 2021, 1:40:22 PM10/15/21
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Tiffany I agree with you 100%

Our faculty asked as repeatedly about onedrive and google drives.



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Miguel Pellicer

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Oct 18, 2021, 3:58:59 AM10/18/21
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Thank you so much Tiffany, very useful use cases!

Ann Githinji

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Oct 18, 2021, 4:05:08 AM10/18/21
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Yes, we use office 365 in our institution. features used: outlook, teams, and forms
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Ann Githinji

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Oct 18, 2021, 4:06:29 AM10/18/21
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