PV and the "holocaust revisionist" lie (was "To PV's fans")
Just passing by
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PV, this was one reply I was determined to read carefully, unlike most
of your others which I don't read at all. And the main reason was that
I particularly wanted to see how you responded to what I had called
"PV's giggle number 5" in my previous post.
And here is the entire text, including your "response". This is a
classic exchange that is going to come back to haunt you, PV.
> >PV's giggle number 5:
> >
> >> You're an admitted "holocaust revisionist," JPB.
> >
> >This shows how very desperate you now are. I know what you did here -
> >you did a search on my posts for the word "holocaust" and you found
> >one from April 2002, in which I mocked your cowardly retreat from
> >arguing about the LW case. After you pretended that you knew
> >something about the case, I challenged you to prove it. You refused,
> >claiming that you didn't want to give me a platform and likened doing
> >so to arguing with those who claim the holocaust never happened. You
> >wrote:
> >
> >"I don't argue with those who deny the holocaust ..."
> >
> >I replied to that with:
> >
> >"That's probably just as well if this is the best you can do. The
> >holocaust revisionists would love to have someone so inept, so
> >predictable and so transparent in the opposite corner. They would have
> >a field day. So yes, you had better keep out of that debate too."
> >
> >That is the only post of mine in which you found the term "holocaust
> >revisionists" (apart from one in which I simply extracted that passage
> >in a post to John Rennie) and so from that you now claim: 'You're an
> >admitted "holocaust revisionist," JPB. '
> >
> >So this astonishing (even by your standards) lie you have introduced
> >into your "game" is that because I once simply REFERRED to holocaust
> >revisionists, I therefore have "admitted" being one of them.
> >
> >I now challenge you to deny that your lie had any other basis than the
> >one I have detailed above. And if you are going to deny that, show
> >where I have ever "admitted" being a holocaust revisionist.
> >
> >You can't do that, and that is why this lie, and all the others above,
> >are going to come back to haunt you when they are all put together to
> >show how you have continued to play this "game" of yours even after it
> >has been exposed.
> >
> >And that was as much as I bothered reading of your post. Now looking
> >at the point at which that lie appears, I would estimate that it is
> >about one twentieth of the way down (correct me if you think that is
> >inaccurate). In other words those five lies I dealt with above all
> >appeared in the first 5% of your post. Probability therefore suggests
> >that your entire post contained a further ninety five lies making one
> >hundred lies (or there about) in total.
> >
> >I have neither the time nor the will to read and expose another ninety
> >five of your lies, so they will remain unread.
> >
> All that raving... simply to agree that you find me "inept" in speaking
> of the holocaust to a "holocaust revisionist.": Yet.. yet... HERE WE
> ARE... I'm speaking to one... and you've called me "inept." Of
> course.... you've also CALLED the holocaust a "game," and
> CALLED my attempts to demonstrate that there were murders
> committed in Dachau which prove Ol' Racist Nev is a holocaust denier
> simply "giggles." You're an evil shit, and I cannot believe that even
> you do not see yourself for what you are now. There passes a point
> where one becomes SO EVIL... as you have become... that you
> recognize your own evil... and find COMFORT in being evil. You
> ENJOY it. KNOWING you are. Feel SUPERIOR in being so.
< followed by various false accusations against another poster that
didn't even mention me or my having "admitted" being a holocaust
revisionist >
So where are your words taking up that challenge I issued you with?
Where are your words explaining how my simply referring to "holocaust
revisionists" justified your words of: 'You're an admitted "holocaust
revisionist," JPB'? Where are the Google URLs in which I have ever
"admitted" any such thing? Where is there any denial that the example
I gave above was indeed the only one you based your lie on?
And that lie about me being an admitted holocaust revisionist has
appeared in numerous other posts of yours over the past few days. They
too are now going to haunt you because they will be collected and
presented as evidence of the depths you will sink to in your
determination to play games with the memories of the holocaust's
victims.
The true story of PV laughing at the holocaust and its victims is
here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309180626.14ac946f%40posting.google.com
And all the detailed evidence is here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309190831.105ba1e9%40posting.google.com
A Planet Visitor
>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<3fhvmvss5gesh84pm...@4ax.com>...
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>PV, this was one reply I was determined to read carefully, unlike most
>of your others which I don't read at all. And the main reason was that
>I particularly wanted to see how you responded to what I had called
>"PV's giggle number 5" in my previous post.
>
>And here is the entire text, including your "response". This is a
>classic exchange that is going to come back to haunt you, PV.
Where have I heard that before? Oh, yes... Every time you
admit you are Satan and going to put a curse on me... because
I exposed you.
Thank you for repeating that rather devestating proof of your
holocaust revisionist admission.
>
>< followed by various false accusations against another poster that
>didn't even mention me or my having "admitted" being a holocaust
>revisionist >
>
Whatever are you raving about, yet again? You have claimed that
I would be "inept" in arguing with a holocaust revisionist. You
are a holocaust revisionist. I admit that I am "inept." But you
are still a holocaust revisionist. How much clearer can that be?
Hell, JPB... I admit I'm "inept" now that you've admitted
you're a holocaust revisionist. That should make you happy... not
angry. It's taken us some time to get to this point.. since you've
been in denial. While I always presumed I would be "inept" faced
with such evil. I am only human... and faced with the Satanic powers
you possess... I can only do what a human can do. While you have
the power of evil behind you. But now we can move on and explore
WHY you are a holocaust denier in more depth. Getting past you
admitting it... has almost been humanly impossible.
>So where are your words taking up that challenge I issued you with?
>Where are your words explaining how my simply referring to "holocaust
>revisionists" justified your words of: 'You're an admitted "holocaust
>revisionist," JPB'? Where are the Google URLs in which I have ever
>"admitted" any such thing? Where is there any denial that the example
>I gave above was indeed the only one you based your lie on?
>
I've grown tired of proving things to you over and over... since you
only call them "spam," when I do, and provide a <clipped
unread> to each of them. Everyone can see you're a holocaust
revisionists now... you having admitted it... so I have no
need to provide google links that you never read anyway. My work
is done. I will provide this, however -- when can I expect you to
shed a tear for even one victim among our species? -- See
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/The_victims.htm
>And that lie about me being an admitted holocaust revisionist has
>appeared in numerous other posts of yours over the past few days. They
>too are now going to haunt you because they will be collected and
>presented as evidence of the depths you will sink to in your
>determination to play games with the memories of the holocaust's
>victims.
>
You've had a lot of experience with lies, JPB. Since each of your posts
average at least three lies. The FACT that you are an admitted
holocaust revisionist is written in the stars and in the eternal pages
of Usenet. Writ by your own hand. Don't get angry... You should
be proud. You were proud of being a baby-killer murderer lover.
You were proud to be a Saddam lover. You were proud to be
a racist. You were proud to be a bigot. Proud to be a holocaust
revisionist should just form the last requirement that takes you into
the dreaded 'three-layer-cursed' pentagram of Satan. You
can now offer your eternal soul in exchange for saving every murderer
on this planet, the success of all racist movements, the transformation
of the holocaust to only a "game" as you have already called it, and
the damnation of every soul who has ever wept for any victim.
Satan would be proud of you.
Now.. don't get so angry, JPB. You know how blotchy your face
gets at those times. It's best that you calm down. Now that you've
admitted what you are... we can move on to the question of WHY.
WHY are you a holocaust revisionist? This is a question that holds
great interest for me.
Why do you hate the Jews, JPB? What drives this rage inside of you that
you would call it a "giggle" when someone expresses revulsion in respect
to the murders committed in the holocaust? Why would you call the murder
of MILLIONS of Jews, simply a "game" to you? These are questions that
go directly to the heart of your sanity. And I'd really like to know WHY?
Why do you hate the Jews? If you could express it concisely, I might be
able to get a better grasp on the anti-Semitism in Europe. But presently
I am at a loss, without understanding WHY you hate the Jews? Have they
HARMED you in the past? Does their appearance trouble you? Do you
fear them? Did you parents teach you how to hate? It would also help me
understand why Ol' Racist Nev hates the Jews so much.
Listen carefully, JPB... since I will provide a profound truth to you -- One
can only be "giggling" when they try to ERASE the scope of a monstrous
event, such as when Ol' Racist Nev tried to DIMINISH the scope of the
holocaust by implying that Dachau was 'not as bad as Guantanamo.'
When I stated that he had found Dachau to be 'good,' that was not a
"giggle" but a recognition that he was intent on INSULTING every
victim murdered in Dachau. And the same is in evidence with the Nameless
One as he tries to DIMINISH the scope of 9//11, by adding his 'signature
giggle' in an expression of the U.S. getting its comeuppance, as far as he is
concerned. While totally unconcerned that his methods might be seen as
an insult to those murdered victims. You see both Ol' Racist Nev and
the Nameless One are INSULTING the murdered victims. I
have never expressed any such thought. I have NEVER expressed
ANYTHING but absolute revulsion in respect to the holocaust
(and 9/11). Ol' Racist Nev tried to DIMINISH the scope of the holocaust
by implying in so many instances that Dachau was no worse than
Guantanamo. Don't you think that is an attempt to show that no
murders were committed in Dachau? If you cannot see that HE was
insulting those murdered in Dachau... I feel for you. And if you contend
that I feel anything other than an expression of my rage that Ol' Racist
Nev would try to DIMINISH the holocaust in such a manner, then you
are the one who is "giggling." And it's an ugly sight.
>The true story of PV laughing at the holocaust and its victims is
>here:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309180626.14ac946f%40posting.google.com
>
Actually that's one of a great number of YOUR posts that prove you
are a holocaust denier. In your own words. Since you state that the
holocaust is just a "game."
>And all the detailed evidence is here:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309190831.105ba1e9%40posting.google.com
Actually, that's ANOTHER of a great number of YOUR posts that
prove you are a holocaust denier. In your own words. Since you
AGAIN state that the holocaust is just a "game."
You see, JPB... I no longer need to provide goggle references to your
admitting you are a holocaust denier. Since you do it for me. Why did
I ever waste my time provided so many of your other words that show
you are a holocaust denier... when you will do my work for me?
PV
Just passing by
> On 23 Sep 2003 04:03:00 -0700, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:
> >So where are your words taking up that challenge I issued you with?
> >Where are your words explaining how my simply referring to "holocaust
> >revisionists" justified your words of: 'You're an admitted "holocaust
> >revisionist," JPB'? Where are the Google URLs in which I have ever
> >"admitted" any such thing? Where is there any denial that the example
> >I gave above was indeed the only one you based your lie on?
> >
> I've grown tired of proving things to you over and over...
Translation: "Damn! He's caught me out. I can't possibly get out of
this one because JPB has proved that I have been lying when I said he
had "admitted" being a holocaust revisionist, just as I was when I
said that the Nameless One had "admitted" pulling sparrows' wings off.
I like to use this word "admitted" when I lie about people because it
gives the impression that I am not merely giving my own interpretation
of their words. But I hate it when I am challenged to provide a URL to
any such "admission" because I never can do. So, only one thing for it
- invoke patented Gimmick number 148, the 'I'm no longer interested in
this thread' gimmick."
A Planet Visitor
>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<8rd2nvk65ko1bbtnd...@4ax.com>...
>> On 23 Sep 2003 04:03:00 -0700, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:
>
>
>> >So where are your words taking up that challenge I issued you with?
>> >Where are your words explaining how my simply referring to "holocaust
>> >revisionists" justified your words of: 'You're an admitted "holocaust
>> >revisionist," JPB'? Where are the Google URLs in which I have ever
>> >"admitted" any such thing? Where is there any denial that the example
>> >I gave above was indeed the only one you based your lie on?
>> >
>> I've grown tired of proving things to you over and over...
>
>
>Translation: "Damn! He's caught me out. I can't possibly get out of
>this one because JPB has proved that I have been lying when I said he
>had "admitted" being a holocaust revisionist,
So many times I grew tired of it. But once again.. if you insist --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309180626.14ac946f%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309190831.105ba1e9%40posting.google.com
Once again YOUR OWN WORDS that demonstrate you are a
holocaust denier... since you ADMIT that you find the holocaust
to be nothing but a "ga**" to you. Why would I need to prove,
what you freely admit? Or do you believe that someone who
calls the holocaust a "ga**" is NOT a holocaust denier? It's a
trick question, JPB. Because calling the holocaust a "ga**,"
makes you a holocaust denier, and denying that someone who
calls the holocaust a "ga**' is a holocaust denier, STILL makes
you a holocaust denier. That may be a bit beyond your intellectual
understanding... but trust me... your words in your own posts,
above... PROVE you are a holocaust denier.
> just as I was when I
>said that the Nameless One had "admitted" pulling sparrows' wings off.
That was another one that was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
While you tried a pathetic denial that is only rivaled by your racist
denials (which you really don't deny much anymore), and your holocaust
denial. His words --
"I engage in 'abuse' of deathies as a matter of course. That's what
they're there for. `echo $DEITY` gave them to us, much as She gave
sparrows to the domestic cat. They're our playthings."
I believe I dissected every phrase, and every meaning to
demonstrate that he DID (he engaged) ABUSE DEATHIES with
ENJOYMENT (as a matter of course). Being what 'deathies'
are there for. GOD ($DEITY) gives THEM (abolitionists)
to US (abolitionists)... as GOD (She) gives SPARROWS (THEM--
retentionists) TO the domestic cat (the Abolitionist). They
are our (abolitionists) playthings. Not much doubt about his
meaning at all - given that every rational person KNOWS what
the domestic cat does to the sparrow, when the sparrow is
provided as a plaything. The predator/prey instinct takes over,
and the cat tortures and kills the sparrow. See --
http://www.mammal.org.uk/catkills.htm
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/cats.htm
http://www.dnr.state.co.us/cdnr_news/wildlife/1998615123232.html
http://www.things.org/~muffy/pages/kitties/death.html
You know what? I find you giggling at the thought of filling that
roll of the cat... and believe you giggle, at the thought of torturing
and killing the retentionist/sparrow. It would fit so well with your
other disgusting character flaws... such as being a racist, an
anti-Semite, a holocaust denier, and a bigot. This was that
final mountain I imagined you would climb... you now picture
yourself torturing and killing retentionists. But perhaps there is
STILL one more evil mountain for you, JPB. You could
claim that there is a better chance that YOU would murder
than would the Nameless One. That would certainly 'trump'
him, since he's asserted the chances are better that HE would
murder than would Theodore Frank. Lucky for him, Frank
is now dead... so I can imagine the chances ARE better that
the Nameless One would murder than ANY dead man.
>I like to use this word "admitted" when I lie about people
I know you do... in fact you like to lie, even without using the
word "admitted." The use of the word "admitted" certainly is
not a necessity when you lie... we've seen your lies too often, without
that word.
> because it
>gives the impression that I am not merely giving my own interpretation
>of their words. But I hate it when I am challenged to provide a URL to
>any such "admission" because I never can do. So, only one thing for it
>- invoke patented Gimmick number 148, the 'I'm no longer interested in
>this thread' gimmick."
I have proved OVER AND OVER that you are a holocaust denier, and
a defender of another holocaust denier.
One last time --
ANYONE.. I MEAN ANYONE.. who attempts to take away the
EXISTENCE of those murdered in the death camps... depriving
them of that EXISTENCE by stating that "One is not 'born Jewish'.."
has my eternal scorn. FOREVER. That is what Ol' Racist Nev
tried to do. That is what you defend him in trying to do. There is no
argument, no parsing of meaning, no pedantic rule, no semantic
distortion, no syntactic rearrangement, no excuse of man-made
religion, no excuse of place of birth, and no excuse of ANY
KIND that can erase that EXISTENCE as a BORN Jew.
They were murdered BECAUSE they were 'born Jews.' And
to take away that possibility, is to take away their EXISTENCE.
It is not only morally impossible... It is fundamentally and axiomatically
impossible. They existed as HUMANS... They existed as
BORN JEWS. And they were MURDERED for that EXACT
REASON. And to deny that REASON... is to excuse. Presuming
that those murdered in the death camps HAD no existence
because they were murdered as 'born Jews,' yet arguing that there
ARE no 'born Jews,' is as evil a human thought as I have ever
encountered. It provides 'plausible deniability' to the Nazi extermination
machine. Now arguing that the Nazis were not 'evil,' but simply
'stupid,' because they did not KNOW that one 'cannot be born
a Jew.' And that was Ol' Racist Nev... and HE is the one YOU
are defending.
And that is why you called me a liar... because I had expressed the
above view. I have no doubt that you believe my words above
represent a lie. Because all holocaust deniers believe my words are
a lie. They believe the words of Ol' Racist Nev are true... that
the Jews murdered in the holocaust have no existence, and thus no
meaning.
>http://www.chez.com/desmondcoughlan/dp/gimmicks/148.html
Ummm... every time someone other than the Nameless One uses the
Nameless One's "gimmick file," it is a demonstration of such
dependence on him, and an inability to formulate their own thought
processes. Call that the --
Obsessive Followers of the Nameless One Gimmick n° 2 --
== using the Nameless One's Gimmick file because the poster
lacks the intellectual wherewithal to formulate a thought of their
own ==
Quite excusable on your part, JPB... Since he IS your MESSIAH,
everyone expects you to soak up his every word. Try soaking up
"PV is right." Those were some of his other words. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desi-JPB-love-affair.htm
PV