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Andy

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:06:56 AM3/27/02
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As usual alt. Surfing is concise and unanimous in regards to the date of
WSD. Here is your chance to make a difference! Yes you lowly surfer can
change the course of history!
Stand up and be counted! Da da dadada da dada da daaa (insert national
anthem here)!

So this is the way it stacks up;

March
30-31: Dan K, John H, Andy, KR, LP, Glenda

April
6-7: Eric
13-14: Eric, 2 Shoes
20-21: Rod, Pete, 2 Shoes
27-28: Pete

Accounted for but completely unsure of where they stand:

Mike disagrees but wonders about those gelatinous blobs in Pacifica (?).
Rico (?) knows about those blobs.
Luis also knows.

Foon knows nothing about blobs (well.) but would rather watch his Maryland
Flying Monkeys play in a tournament, and may throw himself in the ocean when
they loose.
(Could Blake be correct on his analysis of the inner workings of the Foon?
Stay tuned and find out).

So by the powers vested in me unless some of you pipe up WSD 2002 WILL BE ON
EASTER WEEKEND!

BTW: I no vested interest in the activities as it will be as flat as an old
man's ass down here this weekend, but my ass will be outside.

Andy


Foon

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Mar 27, 2002, 10:00:33 AM3/27/02
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"Andy" assumes poobah-hood of WSD: He will also evaluate reports and award
the Gulf Coast Beer Cozy Award for the most Stoked WSD activity.

>Foon knows nothing about blobs (well.)

In years past (you can check the reports) I have participated with several
from the MidAtlantic Delmarva Peninsula area in wetland cleanups on WSD
since on both occasions the surf was nada (and a tad cool) This year
the wetlands cleanup is not scheduled so in the similar spirit I plan to
clean out the Foonbunker frig and get the place shipshape for an active
(I hope) upcoming season) Should that include stopping from 8:47 pm to
whenever, to watch the Maryland Turtles wrest the NCAA SemiFinals from the
Kansas Jabberwockies (I don't know where Andy got the Flying Monkeys from
it must have been some virus he caught in the crystal clear waters of the
Gulf) I will refrain from being too exuberant in my revelry.

-Couch Foon

@lex

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Mar 27, 2002, 10:33:32 AM3/27/02
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> March
> 30-31: Dan K, John H, Andy, KR, LP, Glenda
>
> April
> 6-7: Eric
> 13-14: Eric, 2 Shoes
> 20-21: Rod, Pete, 2 Shoes
> 27-28: Pete

You can add me for this week end, there's a small nice NW swell coming over
Northern Brittany, with good weather on top of it. I might even give a go to
a secret remote reef...

@lex


Btw72

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Mar 27, 2002, 11:17:27 AM3/27/02
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Couch Foon wrote from Downtown:

>Should that include stopping from 8:47 pm to
>whenever, to watch the Maryland Turtles wrest the NCAA SemiFinals from the
>Kansas Jabberwockies (I don't know where Andy got the Flying Monkeys from
>it must have been some virus he caught in the crystal clear waters of the
>Gulf) I will refrain from being too exuberant in my revelry.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=8259

http://www.naplesnews.com/02/03/naples/d742954a.htm

<<Fishermen reported that fish venturing into the water acted strangely,
jumping and running as if they wanted to get out.>>-- CATHY ZOLLO

BTWeaver


The Supreme Court

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Mar 27, 2002, 12:02:45 PM3/27/02
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>From: "Andy" ent...@nospam-ametro.com

>March
>30-31: Dan K, John H, Andy, KR, LP, Glenda
>

I'll go for March 30-31 for the fun of it. Count me in.


Gamivia Duke, Esq.

"I am unaware of any such activities or operations. Nor
would I be disposed to discuss such an operation if it
did, in fact, exist."

Dave Blake

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Mar 27, 2002, 11:26:45 AM3/27/02
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Andy <ent...@nospam-ametro.com> wrote:

> Foon knows nothing about blobs (well.) but would rather watch
> his Maryland Flying Monkeys play in a tournament, and may throw
> himself in the ocean when they loose. (Could Blake be correct
> on his analysis of the inner workings of the Foon? Stay tuned
> and find out).

Buoy 44009 water temp: 46-47F

No way Foon gets wet. He is more of a "I'll put my wetsuit on
when the water breaks 55 F, but even then only long enough to
realize it is too cold to sponge here."

--
Dave "49-55 F year round" Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu

Michael Sullivan

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Mar 27, 2002, 12:39:42 PM3/27/02
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Andy wrote:
>
> As usual alt. Surfing is concise and unanimous in regards to the date of
> WSD. Here is your chance to make a difference! Yes you lowly surfer can
> change the course of history!
> Stand up and be counted! Da da dadada da dada da daaa (insert national
> anthem here)!
>
> So this is the way it stacks up;
>
> March
> 30-31: Dan K, John H, Andy, KR, LP, Glenda
>
> April
> 6-7: Eric
> 13-14: Eric, 2 Shoes
> 20-21: Rod, Pete, 2 Shoes
> 27-28: Pete
>
> Accounted for but completely unsure of where they stand:
>
> Mike disagrees but wonders about those gelatinous blobs in Pacifica (?).

How 'bout I just agree with everybody?

The only weekend that I'll be able to be in the water for WSD would be
the 13 of April when I'll be at the Santa Cruz bodysurf contest. The
other weekends I'll be waiting for surf on Clear Lake, or just report
a Monday morning session.

Anytime is cool, but I still just disagree..... :^)

Sully

rodNDtube

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Mar 27, 2002, 1:26:24 PM3/27/02
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I will agree to disagree and disagree to agree, but will not object in any
way, in deference to SteveM's visit on this fine weekend. Treat the man
like a king... and hang him!

Easter is a difficult time to break away from family obligations... so
this will be my first year in many to not file a WSD... a Saturday trip to
the beach is doubtful unless some tempting surf rolls our way.

In any case, here is to hoping that all others find some choice waves to
ride on this WSD. Also, strongly suggest the WSD Form on the HUB be
updated for filing reports this 2002 -- if not, maybe we SHOULD postpone
WSD to the Fall.

And to digress further... guess many of us would not be
eligible for filing WSD reports anyways (we <<body surfers, body
boarders, paipo boarders, kneeboarders, yakers and the others>> don't
"surf" ha ha - well, not any more than those that *try* to stand). Guess
this would also disqualify Bill Andrews this year?

Rod Rodgers
eMail: rrod...@bcpl.net
Homepage: http://www.bcpl.net/~rrodgers/rodpage1.html
GP2Kn: http://www.bcpl.net/~rrodgers/gp2k/rod_gp2k.html

rodNDtube

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Mar 27, 2002, 2:38:39 PM3/27/02
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Come on down, Dave... walk the walk, it will be nice on Sat. with the
water in the mid to upper 40's and air in upper 50s... you've said several
times on AS that you'll get in to get wet no matter the conditions. We'd
like to share some DelMarVa waves and hospitality... and just think...
what if Surfff showed up for an initial alt.surfing close encounter???

Jane Moody

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Mar 27, 2002, 2:41:00 PM3/27/02
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We're doing the traditional Easter Surf at the Inlet (maybe joined by Ferg?)
Anyway, here's to the possibility of good waves for everyone...


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NorCoast Driftwood

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Mar 27, 2002, 6:32:45 PM3/27/02
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well my man, you'll be waiting for surf on clear lake
for a little while, unless we get a local gale and then you
might want to check out the beachbreaks of lucerne. it's
been flat as well... a lake in front of my place. there was
some ankle high shorepound stuff a few weeks ago.

--

Michael Sullivan <gc....@forsythe.stanford.edu> wrote in
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SurffOhio

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Mar 27, 2002, 6:33:07 PM3/27/02
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Andy wrote:
>So by the powers vested in me unless some of you pipe up WSD 2002 WILL BE ON
>EASTER WEEKEND!

We traditionaly haven't had it on
Easter w/e due to family events
going on. I'm suggesting April 20-21.
This gives us a bit more time to
prepare, but doesn't put it too
far away.

With the events of 2001
and the passing on of
brother Will Borgenson,
I think this would be a good
year for a big turnout.

I haven't seen Tim Maddux report
in. It would be nice to hear from
him.
He organizes the WSD reports.

Btw, M@rk usually has a lot to
say about the date. Where is
he? With Doc & jb?

It looks like snow
and rain on the east coast for
Easter. Having it later in April
helps a bit with the weather.

I'll be in Fla. in April. I'm not
exactly sure when.

A few of the
people that have had WSD
reports in the past that we
haven't heard from are:

Tim Maddux
Ferg
Mark
Sarge
Tom Tweed?
Mr. Lemons
Johnny Utah
Surfgeo
Cam
Egosurf
Ben Rak
Whip
Hsilio
Napalm
The Reverend
Carson
jb

I probably left someone out that's
totally obvious. Please forgive me.

Surff

FlekToneZ

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:32:56 PM3/27/02
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Leave it to Foon to puss out from surfing on world *surf* day....Aren't
little ditties like this your 'bag'?

_FleK


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FlekToneZ

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:34:20 PM3/27/02
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Jane, ya'll going to be out at Sebastian?

if ya, look for me, 6'3, handsome, longboard.

_FleK


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Andrew Smith

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Mar 27, 2002, 10:11:23 PM3/27/02
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"Btw72" <bt...@aol.comOspambs> wrote in message
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> Couch Foon wrote from Downtown:
>
> >Should that include stopping from 8:47 pm to
> >whenever, to watch the Maryland Turtles wrest the NCAA SemiFinals from
the
> >Kansas Jabberwockies (I don't know where Andy got the Flying Monkeys from
> >it must have been some virus he caught in the crystal clear waters of the
> >Gulf) I will refrain from being too exuberant in my revelry.
>
>
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=8259
>
> http://www.naplesnews.com/02/03/naples/d742954a.htm

That looks just like the Mako we had that got deposited in Ft. Walton Beach
by some hurricane when I was a kid.

a.


Andrew Smith

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Mar 27, 2002, 10:12:46 PM3/27/02
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"Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
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It was 61 today at Carolina Beach, NC

a.


Sequoia

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Mar 27, 2002, 10:34:43 PM3/27/02
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"Andy" <ent...@nospam-ametro.com> wrote in message
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> As usual alt. Surfing is concise and unanimous in regards to the date of
> WSD. Here is your chance to make a difference! Yes you lowly surfer can
> change the course of history!
> Stand up and be counted! Da da dadada da dada da daaa (insert national
> anthem here)!
>
> So this is the way it stacks up;
>
> March
> 30-31: Dan K, John H, Andy, KR, LP, Glenda
>
> April
> 6-7: Eric
> 13-14: Eric, 2 Shoes
> 20-21: Rod, Pete, 2 Shoes
> 27-28: Pete
>
<snip>

Hmmm. ALL of those days sounds good to me, and a lot of others in between. So, I
guess I can say, "I agree!"

Seq

SurfSarge

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Mar 27, 2002, 10:39:57 PM3/27/02
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FlekToneZ wrote:

>Jane, ya'll going to be out at Sebastian?
>
>if ya, look for me, 6'3, handsome, longboard.
>
>_FleK

Damn Flek thats a short longboard!!
-PD


mountain man

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Mar 27, 2002, 5:16:20 PM3/27/02
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"Andy" <ent...@nospam-ametro.com> wrote:

> As usual alt. Surfing is concise and unanimous in regards to the date of
> WSD. Here is your chance to make a difference! Yes you lowly surfer can
> change the course of history!

...[like trim]...

> So by the powers vested in me unless some of you pipe up WSD 2002 WILL BE
ON
> EASTER WEEKEND!


Here's a pipe up. I have been quiet, at least
for the last 7 days as I ended up ripping the
underside layer of glass from my board all the
way from the fins to the middle of the board
and right up the stringer.

It all happened during a particularly savage turn
and I thought my fin had just popped out of the
water, but closer investigation revealed it was
flapping around on the disassociated glass sheet.

The recent heat and bushfires were seen as
somewhat contributory --- the bottom deck
had at least half a dozen black imprints of
burning gum leaves ...

Should be back in the water this weekend
however. WSD is a global event after all.

Keep paddling into them.

Farmer Brown
Falls Creek, OZ

Jane Moody

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Mar 28, 2002, 6:57:24 AM3/28/02
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I'll probably be the person sitting miserably on the beach... Head cold/flu
from hell, wounded foot, it's all conspiring against me. My picture is on
Cam's page, and Peter has long gray hair and rides either a 7 something
funshape or a 9'0 - both wood colored. At least say hi as you walk by...


rodNDtube

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Mar 28, 2002, 8:45:31 AM3/28/02
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On 27 Mar 2002, Dave Blake wrote:

> rodNDtube <rrod...@bcpl.net> wrote:
>
> > Come on down, Dave... walk the walk, it will be nice on Sat.
> > with the water in the mid to upper 40's and air in upper 50s...
> > you've said several times on AS that you'll get in to get wet

> > no matter the conditions. ...
>
> I got no time, and I won't be closer than 2 hours driving to
> the coast. Otherwise, I'd love to come down and surf while
> Foon watches basketball and you struggle to get into a wetsuit.
>
> I live for that stuff.
>
> Dave Blake
> dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu

Screw wetsuits, Mr. SoulSurfer Blake... I thought we'd trunk it since it
will be a nice day with offshores :) Enjoy Philly!

David H.

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Mar 28, 2002, 12:02:55 PM3/28/02
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The pastor is in.

WSD this weekend sounds alright - shouldn't really surf 'cos I've got
a wonky knee (summit wrong with me suspension) but there's a nice
swell commin' in and I might just catch it ... on a body board! Doctor
says I shouldn't but he don't surf. Hey - maybe I'm a sponger and
didn't know it! Got fins - shall sponge.

On the subject of Easter...

Do you all know when Easter was first celebrated?

Well, according to the Good Book, way back when the people of Israel
were slaving in Egypt - God told Moses to tell all His people to chose
one good lamb or goat and slaughter it (and bbq it and eat it). The
blood was to be painted over the doors and windows so that the angel
of death would not visit the houses of the chosen. That night all the
first born of the opressors died and the next day the people of Israel
split Egypt headed for the promised land (after some time in a
desert). Easter was thereafter celebrated to remember this exodus.

Jesus was slain on Easter. An immaculate lamb. His blood saves the
chosen from death. Those that decide to follow Him hit the promised
land. Sometimes go through a bit of a desert but well worth the
hassle.

Happy Easter Eggs.

David

The pastor is out.

Foon

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Mar 28, 2002, 1:10:25 PM3/28/02
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>The pastor is in.
>
>WSD this weekend sounds alright - shouldn't really surf 'cos I've got
>a wonky knee (summit wrong with me suspension) but there's a nice
>swell commin' in and I might just catch it ... on a body board! Doctor
>says I shouldn't but he don't surf. Hey - maybe I'm a sponger and
>didn't know it! Got fins - shall sponge.

God bless you David, welcome to the tribe.

-Foon (A Christmas/Easter Christian)

Surfer Bob

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Mar 28, 2002, 8:40:24 PM3/28/02
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OK, I'll post my usual whine WRT AS World Surf Day. And my usual
unheeded request.

Water brothers and water sisters, the surf SUCKS in southern CA in
April. This year is no exception. It scarcely matters which day you
pick, the mission is doomed by virtue of the month. I have missed each
of the last 5 (count 'em -5!) WSD's due to complete and overwhelmingly
unsurfable FLATNESS prevailing on the appointed day. It remains to be
seen what this year will bring. Maybe sub-knee-high dink just capable
of propelling a longboard with a grovelling surfer aboard in water
just deep enough to avoid damage to fins. Maybe. But not at Rincon and
not in Santa Barbara. April is a good month to take up windsurfing
here.

As usual, I console myself in the possibility that the east coasters
actualy have something to ride this month. As I ask every year, I ask
again: Can we do this in the winter some year, so there is even a
chance of greatness for the left coast? Or can we rename this event AS
World Paddle Day?


I love the idea of WSD, but, "I canna change the laws of physics,
Cap'n."

"There are no waves," he said flatly,
Surfer Bob
Church of the Open Sky

Michael Sullivan

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Mar 28, 2002, 9:15:38 PM3/28/02
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Surfer Bob wrote:
>
> OK, I'll post my usual whine WRT AS World Surf Day. And my usual
> unheeded request.
>
> Water brothers and water sisters, the surf SUCKS in southern CA in
> April. This year is no exception. It scarcely matters which day you
> pick, the mission is doomed by virtue of the month. I have missed each
> of the last 5 (count 'em -5!) WSD's due to complete and overwhelmingly
> unsurfable FLATNESS prevailing on the appointed day. It remains to be
> seen what this year will bring. Maybe sub-knee-high dink just capable
> of propelling a longboard with a grovelling surfer aboard in water
> just deep enough to avoid damage to fins. Maybe. But not at Rincon and
> not in Santa Barbara. April is a good month to take up windsurfing
> here.

Surfer Bob. Like many others you are suffering from sort
of delusion that alt.surfing has something to do with surfing....

:^)

Mike

OBcontent: I stormed out of work and headed to Pacifica
for a nooner. Had a nice time, found some 3 ft sets
and occasionaly a sneaker. Makes up for the fact I'm
sitting here cleaning up shit Oracle spilled all over the
place and I can't make a stop on my way home.

mountain man

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Mar 28, 2002, 10:06:13 PM3/28/02
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"David H." <pan...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> The pastor is in.

...[trim]...

> On the subject of Easter...
> Do you all know when Easter was first celebrated?
>
> Well, according to the Good Book,

...[snip]...

There are a number of "Good Books" David
in the cultural memory and fabric of the planet
as a whole ... for Huey did not appear to any
one (global) tribe exclusivley, but rather, all
of them, and each of them think His contact
was exclusive.

The festivals of Easter were first celebrated thousands
of years before the old testament was enacted, let alone
written down and then collated. More than a thousand
years before the big pyramids were built the megalithic
structures of the british isles and western europe (eg: Stone
Henge) were constructed with some form of relationship
to the celebration of such special times in the seasons of
the planet --- the equinoxes and the solstices.


> Jesus was slain on Easter. An immaculate lamb. His blood saves the
> chosen from death. Those that decide to follow Him hit the promised
> land. Sometimes go through a bit of a desert but well worth the
> hassle.
>
> Happy Easter Eggs.
>
> David
>
> The pastor is out.

Jesus was born on the winter soltice; John the Baptist was
also born and was slain on similar seasonal festival days.

Such days are special to the celebration of the cycles of
the seasons and the cycles of life, and those who for one
reason or another associate with them.

Happy Spring to the northern planetary regions.
Irrigate the desert and make mulch, not war.

george_of_the_jungle

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Mar 29, 2002, 1:37:07 AM3/29/02
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Looks like we'll have surf here but the storminess will make it pretty
sketchy Saturday. If north winds come in Sunday with the swell I know
where to go. W to NW winds could mess up the swell unless it wraps to
a certain spot or two on the E side. I don't want to be feeding the
fish if the water is red.

It seems like a strange time to do world surf day. Who set this up
Australians and S. Africans who are stoked about the winter swells
coming up?

Aloha,
George

mountain man

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Mar 29, 2002, 3:42:00 AM3/29/02
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"george_of_the_jungle" <george_of_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> It seems like a strange time to do world surf day. Who set this up
> Australians and S. Africans who are stoked about the winter swells
> coming up?


Here is an excellent starter kit:
http://www.navo.navy.mil/cgi-bin/graphic.pl/metoc/311/21/0-0-1/0/index.html


I dont think it's really important which specific weekend
folk choose to file a surf report for WSD, it is rather the
fact that such a grouping of reports results. Often, some
reports were weeks apart, when the swell finally arrives,
so the actual date of WSD is rather fluid to AS.

NONE

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Mar 29, 2002, 12:30:39 PM3/29/02
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surf...@aol.communicate (SurffOhio) wrote in message news:<20020327183307...@mb-cg.aol.com>...

> Andy wrote:
> >So by the powers vested in me unless some of you pipe up WSD 2002 WILL BE ON
> >EASTER WEEKEND!
>
> We traditionaly haven't had it on
> Easter w/e due to family events
> going on. I'm suggesting April 20-21.
> This gives us a bit more time to
> prepare,

Prepare? I thought this group was by and for surfers?
What is there to prepare? Just grab your board and/or fins,
wetsuit if needed, and hit the water. I don't see any
need for preparations, lengthy or otherwise.

Surff, I realize you live a long way from any ocean,
and you can't do this on a moments notice, but I also
think that this group should not plan its activities
to revolve around those who choose to live so far from waves
that it takes weeks of preparation just to paddle out.

Best of Rides,
johnh

SurfSarge

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Mar 29, 2002, 2:57:33 PM3/29/02
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jhermesman wrote:

How abouts we let last years Most Stoked pick the date?????? btw I agree w/
you John 100%

-PD


Timothy B. Maddux

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Mar 29, 2002, 2:43:24 PM3/29/02
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In article <GNVo8.24744$uR5....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>,

mountain man <prfb...@magna.com.au> wrote:
>"george_of_the_jungle" <george_of_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> It seems like a strange time to do world surf day. Who set this up
>> Australians and S. Africans who are stoked about the winter swells
>> coming up?

First world surf day was coordinated by an Aussie, Stephen Spence:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1993Apr16.045640.21624%40citec.oz.au

He also coordinated the 1994 (September) and 1995 events
(April again). We didn't have one in 1996. 1997 (April)
was coordinated by me. I got a good response for that one
by engaging people outside the newsgroup. If we get a website
for reporting (Steve Lange seems to have a good handle on this
web reporting thing) we could get a great response, but it'd
probably have to be pushed back from this weekend. Eventually
people just started posting instead of emailing the reports and
them all getting posted at once, so "who set this up" becomes
a harder question to answer. But, someone does need to put
their foot down and say "this is the day we do it" and hopefully
that person will also archive the reports somewhere. Not me.

AFAIK we've had one every year since 1993, which would make
WSD 2002 be the 9th WSD.

>I dont think it's really important which specific weekend

>folk choose to file a surf report for WSD...

Actually it was originally the same DAY, not even a whole
weekend. If you make it "any weekend," then it doesn't
mean anything, really. We're filing surf reports all the
time and they're always accessible somewhere, usually Google.

So, is it this weekend? Someone step up and decide.

--
.-``'. Tim Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
.` .`~ Santa Barbara Surfing - http://www.me.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
_.-' '._ All your wave are belong to me!

john singer

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Mar 29, 2002, 10:05:53 PM3/29/02
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"Andy" <ent...@nospam-ametro.com> wrote in message news:<a7sjg3$95q$1...@news.datasync.com>...
> snip WSD hypothesis

Like a lot of west coasters I'm a bit perplexed why it's scheduled in
one of the worst months for surf? Or even easter weekend when a lot of
people split on vacations or the beaches are overun with kooks. As far
as the spring is concerned May would be a much better month as the
Southern Hemi's start coming through. April, is pure luck as far as
the NW swells are concerned.

I do think that overall, the fall Sept/October would be best in most
locals. Even on the right coast you get some good hurricane swell that
time of year and out here on the left coast...well it can be all time.

When in Costa Rica I asked a local when he though his favorite time of
year for surf was and he said October. Not that we have anybody from
Costo Rica in this ng, but the point is it's a pretty solid month
worldwide.

Also instead of WSD, you could have WSF (world surf week) that way it
would give more people a chance to participate given conflicting
schedules and potential swell arrivals and a likelihood of good
surf...

-John

Neal Miyake

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Mar 30, 2002, 4:18:42 AM3/30/02
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"george_of_the_jungle" <george_of_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:3ca40a15...@news.aloha.net...

> Looks like we'll have surf here but the storminess will make it pretty
> sketchy Saturday. If north winds come in Sunday with the swell I know
> where to go. W to NW winds could mess up the swell unless it wraps to
> a certain spot or two on the E side. I don't want to be feeding the
> fish if the water is red.
>
> It seems like a strange time to do world surf day. Who set this up
> Australians and S. Africans who are stoked about the winter swells
> coming up?

As is archived in the annals of the alt.surfing history webpage
(http://www.alt-surfing.org/sponge/as_history.htm), here's some history on
WSD:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=world%2Bsurf%2Bday%2Bgroup:alt.surfing&hl=
en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=9&as_miny=1994&as
_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1994&selm=Cvyxuu.5M9%40gemstone.com&rnum=2

The date doesn't really matter. Participation is what we want.

sponge
www.hisurfadvisory.com


Andy

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john singer <jgsi...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:cab205fd.02032...@posting.google.com...

> "Andy" <ent...@nospam-ametro.com> wrote in message
news:<a7sjg3$95q$1...@news.datasync.com>...
> > snip WSD hypothesis
>
> Like a lot of west coasters I'm a bit perplexed why it's scheduled in
> one of the worst months for surf? Or even easter weekend when a lot of
> people split on vacations or the beaches are overun with kooks.

Dan King suggested we move WSD up to easter weekend when Steve "the mind"
will be visiting the W coast. It kind of snow-balled from there.

>As far
> as the spring is concerned May would be a much better month as the
> Southern Hemi's start coming through. April, is pure luck as far as
> the NW swells are concerned.
>

May? That's is the end of our wave season here, bla...

> I do think that overall, the fall Sept/October would be best in most
> locals. Even on the right coast you get some good hurricane swell that
> time of year and out here on the left coast...well it can be all time.
>

Yes I would agree, October is a good month for us down south, the end of
hurricane season and beginning of the low pressure season.

> When in Costa Rica I asked a local when he though his favorite time of
> year for surf was and he said October. Not that we have anybody from
> Costo Rica in this ng, but the point is it's a pretty solid month
> worldwide.
>
> Also instead of WSD, you could have WSF (world surf week) that way it
> would give more people a chance to participate given conflicting
> schedules and potential swell arrivals and a likelihood of good
> surf...
>
> -John

Good points John, bring it up come October, from the various rumblings I
think most people are more into a winter/fall WSD than Spring.

Later,
Andy


Sequoia

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Mar 30, 2002, 2:34:50 PM3/30/02
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"Andy" <ent...@nospam-ametro.com> wrote in message:

> Good points John, bring it up come October, from the various rumblings I
> think most people are more into a winter/fall WSD than Spring.

No way, man. I went out this AM "just" because it was WSD. (enter the tune of
"It's A Small World After All" here). The hairs on my shinny shin shins got
barreled while I slid the longboard thru the shallows ogling the babes running
on the beach and PCH. Only about 40 sticks in the water from 22nd St to Seapoint
at HB Cliffs surfing 1-2' shin shattering shorebreak on an incoming tide.
Occasional backwash induced belly button high peaks that were "like the whole
ocean was folding over you!" It was a life defying experience!

Sheesh!
Seq !:=>

SurfSarge

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Mar 30, 2002, 4:21:59 PM3/30/02
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Sequoia wrote:

Sorry to hear that....Our Sesh went great...
Perfect chest to Head w/ the ocasional O-head set....I musta had at least 6-7
tube rides...Lefts and Rights..Steep take offs on a few...I saw M@rk get a
sweet off the top...When he came up to slam the lip all of his fins released
and he just slid it around..Sweet! Maybe a before dark Sesh is in order!!


-PD


Sequoia

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Mar 30, 2002, 5:18:23 PM3/30/02
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"SurfSarge" <surfs...@aol.comindabowl> wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear that....Our Sesh went great...
> Perfect chest to Head w/ the ocasional O-head set....I musta had at least 6-7
> tube rides...Lefts and Rights..Steep take offs on a few...I saw M@rk get a
> sweet off the top...When he came up to slam the lip all of his fins released
> and he just slid it around..Sweet! Maybe a before dark Sesh is in order!!
>

I checked out the Belmar cam... looked sweet - fast barrely grinders with no one
out there. Man - I'd LOVE some of that about now!

Didja get any pics?

Seq

SurfSarge

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Mar 30, 2002, 5:39:31 PM3/30/02
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Sequoia wrote:

Going down now to snap a few for M@rk's WSD report...think i might paddle back
out...btw yeah it was just M@rk and I thats it...also where that B-mar cam
is....isn't the greatest of breaks...


-PD


SurffOhio

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Mar 31, 2002, 10:44:20 AM3/31/02
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johnh wrote:
>Surff, I realize you live a long way from any ocean,
>and you can't do this on a moments notice, but I also
>think that this group should not plan its activities
>to revolve around those who choose to live so far from waves
>that it takes weeks of preparation just to paddle out.

Good morning!! I just got done
taking pics of the Surffettes
opening their Easter Baskets.

Once again I didn't make myself
very clear, johnh. Sorry. Sure, even
*I* can make to the surf without
weeks of prep. :-)

What I meant was preparing for the
event itself. There were a few things
I thought might be missing. One
thing was, I thought a meditation
for Will Borgenson might be nice.
Maybe even some sort of symbolic
gesture. Also, if we look upon surf
years being between WSD's, then
it was a heavy year with 9-11 being
involved. It affected some of us
closely, such as M@rk and other's
in NJ and NY.

I felt that we had a very eventfull year
preceding this WSD. Also, I haven't
read much from Tim Maddux, and
he's done real good compiling in
the past.

Whatever, I thought that this should
be a special WSD, and what I saw
was just a few days notice.

What the heck, I wanted some hype! :-)

Also, should there be another award?
The thermos has bitten the dust.
What about the most soulful WSD
report? How about a WSD coffee
cup? I could have one made up.

What do you say we make "April"
WSD? That way we can all be
involved. We can have a "Most
Soulful WSD report award." I
can have a WSD coffee cup
made up and mail it to the winner.


Surff

SurfSarge

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:58:30 PM3/31/02
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SurffOhio wrote:

>What do you say we make "April"
>WSD?

To late pal yesterday was WSD and NJ took the cake...See ya next year!!
-PD


Foon

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Mar 31, 2002, 2:33:04 PM3/31/02
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surffohio says...

>There were a few things
>I thought might be missing. One
>thing was, I thought a meditation
>for Will Borgenson might be nice.
>Maybe even some sort of symbolic
>gesture. Also, if we look upon surf
>years being between WSD's, then
>it was a heavy year with 9-11 being
>involved. It affected some of us
>closely, such as M@rk and other's
>in NJ and NY.

Acknowledging Will would have been nice but I wonder why so many people
conveniently forget the 168 people killed in Washington on 9/11. These
were people serving our country in one of the most important jobs you
can have in public service. National defense. The human toll here goes
beyond lost lives. The attack was an attempt to break the national will
to wage war. In case some haven't noticed, it didn't work. Maybe we can
have WSD on Veterans Day. Nov.11th

-Foon

SurffOhio

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Mar 31, 2002, 4:06:26 PM3/31/02
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Foon wrote:
>Acknowledging Will would have been nice but I wonder why so many people
>conveniently forget the 168 people killed in Washington on 9/11.

This was my point, Foon. It wasn't
"conviently" forgotten. There was
simply time needed to pull
everything together. Like I was
trying to say, it's been a very
eventful year.

Surff

mountain man

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Apr 2, 2002, 9:15:05 PM4/2/02
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"Timothy B. Maddux" <tbma...@nylon.engr.ucsb.edu> wrote in message
news:a82g4s$3...@nylon.engr.ucsb.edu...

> In article <GNVo8.24744$uR5....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>,
> mountain man <prfb...@magna.com.au> wrote:

...[snip a concise summary of WSD history for the period
commencing 1993 to 2001.]....

Interesting that the WSD series
was initiated down under.

> AFAIK we've had one every year since 1993, which would make
> WSD 2002 be the 9th WSD.
>
> >I dont think it's really important which specific weekend
> >folk choose to file a surf report for WSD...
>
> Actually it was originally the same DAY, not even a whole
> weekend. If you make it "any weekend," then it doesn't
> mean anything, really. We're filing surf reports all the
> time and they're always accessible somewhere, usually Google.


Of course, you're right Tim, however the signal to noise
ratio on AS has climbed steadily in the intervening period
mentioned above with the result that things are becoming
more fragmented and less organised.

There is one thing in our favor though, and that is the
emergence of www.alt.surfing.org which is structured
to at least channel material into its archives, such as
the WSD reports.


> So, is it this weekend? Someone step up and decide.

Well, personally speaking, I will be making a report
for the session down here of easter monday 1-APR-2002
due to the semi-classic conditions, and the fact that
my 2 sons paddled out into some serious well OH fun.
Hope to complete this in the next cupla.

I like Surff's idea of a coffee cup too.

Whoever it is that is the gatherer of WSD 2002 reports
should also have the role of publishing the exact next date
for the following year's WSD session, if this is to happen
on a specific day, and perhaps this should be included in
the FAQ as a matter of procedure or something, and so
save bandwidth about making decisions.

Keep paddling into them,

Farmer Brown
Falls Creek, OZ

www.mountainman.com.au

Always Stoke

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Apr 3, 2002, 12:13:53 AM4/3/02
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"mountain man" <prfb...@magna.com.au> wrote:

> I like Surff's idea of a coffee cup too.

What happened to that damn thermos????

I gave that to Steve The Mind, did he lose it already????


Geezz.......

--
...m@rk
"...In The Abundance Of Water,
The Fool Is Thirsty..."
~ R.N. Marley

Andy

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Apr 3, 2002, 12:46:50 AM4/3/02
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Always Stoke <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eastcoastcharger-42...@news.bellatlantic.net...

> "mountain man" <prfb...@magna.com.au> wrote:
>
> > I like Surff's idea of a coffee cup too.
>
>
>
> What happened to that damn thermos????
>
> I gave that to Steve The Mind, did he lose it already????
>
>
> Geezz.......
>

I think Rod or Foon have a good idea where that smelly thing got off to, I
can't seem to remember much of that weekend....


Andy


Neal Miyake

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Apr 3, 2002, 1:58:23 AM4/3/02
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"mountain man" <prfb...@magna.com.au> wrote: <snip>

> Whoever it is that is the gatherer of WSD 2002 reports
> should also have the role of publishing the exact next date
> for the following year's WSD session, if this is to happen
> on a specific day, and perhaps this should be included in
> the FAQ as a matter of procedure or something, and so
> save bandwidth about making decisions...

I'll step up and be the gatherer of WSD 2002 reports. Please post yours
asap (myself included).

I don't know about the date. We still have to first decide if we are having
one later in the year.

As for potential dates, here were some suggestions:
1. Summer solstice (around June 21)
2. Winter solstice (around December 22)
3. Autumnal equinox (around September 23)
(surprisingly, no one suggested the Spring Equinox, around March 21)
4. Earth Day (April 22)

Holidays were kind of ruled out due to their being country-centricity.
Other concerns were too cold and not in storm seasons.

Don't forget about the "most-stoked" WSD report. Steve the Mind won last
year and should still be the keeper of the perpetual thermos trophy. I
guess he also chooses the winner for this year.

sponge
www.hisurfadvisory.com

SurffOhio

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Apr 3, 2002, 6:11:08 AM4/3/02
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Neal wrote:
>Don't forget about the "most-stoked" WSD report. Steve the Mind won last
>year and should still be the keeper of the perpetual thermos trophy. I
>guess he also chooses the winner for this year.

Go Neal! It's nice to see you
keep in the traditions. If the
thermos is lost, I'll be happy
to make up a WSD coffee
mug and send it to the winner.

Surff

Always Stoke

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Apr 3, 2002, 8:38:45 AM4/3/02
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In article <20020403061108...@mb-cg.aol.com>,
surf...@aol.communicate (SurffOhio) wrote:


W H E R E ' S T H A T T H E R M O S D A M M I T???


If I lost it, you guys would be ALL OVER my shit!!

<LOL>

SurfSarge

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Apr 3, 2002, 9:20:02 AM4/3/02
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surffohio wrote:

>Go Neal! It's nice to see you
>keep in the traditions. If the
>thermos is lost, I'll be happy
>to make up a WSD coffee
>mug and send it to the winner.

Your boyfriend has the Thermos....
-PD


rodNDtube

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Apr 3, 2002, 11:37:19 AM4/3/02
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Always Stoke wrote:

> > Neal wrote:
> > >Don't forget about the "most-stoked" WSD report. Steve the Mind won last
> > >year and should still be the keeper of the perpetual thermos trophy. I
> > >guess he also chooses the winner for this year.

> W H E R E ' S T H A T T H E R M O S D A M M I T???


>
>
> If I lost it, you guys would be ALL OVER my shit!!
>
> <LOL>

Somebody mentioned that the thermos was placed next to that copy of the
PanamASolas tape that you made. As this point this situation simply
STINKS.

> ...m@rk
> "...In The Abundance Of Water,
> The Fool Is Thirsty..."
> ~ R.N. Marley


Rod Rodgers
eMail: rrod...@bcpl.net
Homepage: http://www.rodNDtube.com/
GuidoPalooza: http://www.rodndtube.com/gp/rod_gp2k.html

Tom Keener

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Apr 3, 2002, 10:54:30 PM4/3/02
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On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:38:45 GMT, Always Stoke
<eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> W H E R E ' S T H A T T H E R M O S D A M M I T???
>
>
> If I lost it, you guys would be ALL OVER my shit!!

Oh, like that matters. We'll be all over your shit anyway.

Tom Keener
email me if you want my email address

Always Stoke

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Apr 4, 2002, 9:06:10 AM4/4/02
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.93.1020403113524.13005C-100000@mail>,
rodNDtube <rrod...@bcpl.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Always Stoke wrote:
>
> > > Neal wrote:
> > > >Don't forget about the "most-stoked" WSD report. Steve the Mind won last
> > > >year and should still be the keeper of the perpetual thermos trophy. I
> > > >guess he also chooses the winner for this year.
>
> > W H E R E ' S T H A T T H E R M O S D A M M I T???
> >
> >
> > If I lost it, you guys would be ALL OVER my shit!!
> >
> > <LOL>
>
> Somebody mentioned that the thermos was placed next to that copy of the
> PanamASolas tape that you made. As this point this situation simply
> STINKS.


You're funny. Why do YOU care so much about the Panama tapes??
You saw them already - dont be a kook.

I handed off the thermos to Steve last time I was in Hatteras.

It has never been seen since. It was fine in my hands, sat on a shelf
and I even went through the trouble of making a nice thing on the front
for everyone to sign out of tradition.


Panamasolas tapes = gave them to a friend to copy who forgot about them
for a while - then couldnt do it "for some reason", then back in my hands
one of the VCR's died mid-recording, had no money to buy a new one for a
while, forgot for a LONG while since my life went crazy (working 24-7,
band, etc, etc), and then after finally getting a new VCR tried again and
the other VCR went to shit - WHILE DOING THE PANAMA TAPES AGAIN!!!

Cursed? Methinxso. Think I'm lying? Ask my wife, she's fucking pissed
we forked out for 2 VCR's in a year. The ironies of life.

Luckily a good friend just moved in this week and has a VCR

......I'll try again.

Anyone who asks about them again will reap the vapors hardcore.

--

Always Stoke

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Apr 4, 2002, 9:08:15 AM4/4/02
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In article <3cabce74....@nntp.cts.com>,
keen...@cts.com_but_not_this_part (Tom Keener) wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:38:45 GMT, Always Stoke
> <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > W H E R E ' S T H A T T H E R M O S D A M M I T???
> >
> >
> > If I lost it, you guys would be ALL OVER my shit!!
>
> Oh, like that matters. We'll be all over your shit anyway.


N O K I D D I N G ??


Everyone's jealous I get more tube time than them!

rodNDtube

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Apr 4, 2002, 9:48:45 AM4/4/02
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Always Stoke wrote:

> Panamasolas tapes = gave them to a friend to copy who forgot about them
> for a while - then couldnt do it "for some reason", then back in my hands
> one of the VCR's died mid-recording, had no money to buy a new one for a
> while, forgot for a LONG while since my life went crazy (working 24-7,
> band, etc, etc), and then after finally getting a new VCR tried again and
> the other VCR went to shit - WHILE DOING THE PANAMA TAPES AGAIN!!!
>
> Cursed? Methinxso. Think I'm lying? Ask my wife, she's fucking pissed
> we forked out for 2 VCR's in a year. The ironies of life.
>
> Luckily a good friend just moved in this week and has a VCR
>
> ......I'll try again.
>
> Anyone who asks about them again will reap the vapors hardcore.
>
> --
> ...m@rk
> "...In The Abundance Of Water,
> The Fool Is Thirsty..."
> ~ R.N. Marley

We want excuses, not SOB stories!!!! Looking forward to the tape(s).

Rod Rodgers
eMail: rrod...@bcpl.net
Homepage: http://www.rodNDtube.com/

GuidoPalooza: http://www.rodndtube.com/gp/guidopalooza.html

Dan King

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Apr 5, 2002, 3:37:28 AM4/5/02
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"Neal Miyake" <spo...@iav.com> wrote in
news:jKxq8.18111$zN.74...@twister.socal.rr.com:


> Don't forget about the "most-stoked" WSD report. Steve the Mind
> won last year and should still be the keeper of the perpetual
> thermos trophy. I guess he also chooses the winner for this
> year.

Ben Rak won last year. His WSD report was dateline Oz this year.

--
Dan

"I dive deep when it's ten feet overhead
grab the reef underneath my bed" - Sublime



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