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JC

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:40:28 PM11/17/09
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I have been interested for a while in tying tube flies. Does anyone have any pointers or experience with that?

Jc

Don Ordes

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:39:34 PM11/19/09
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You just missed some posts recently about tying tube flies.  I've never done it, but there are some on here who have.  They should be posting soon.  Middle-of-the-week slowdown here.
 
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iain short

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:59:44 AM11/20/09
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Hi JC
look at the following link

http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/

if you have specific questions email me at iain...@hotmail.com

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I have been interested for a while in tying tube flies. Does anyone have any pointers or experience with that?

Jc





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Jeff Frye

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:26:26 AM11/20/09
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Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks.


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iain short

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:25:24 AM11/20/09
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Find a bass pattern you like and ill be happy to help you develop a bass tube version.
iain


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Alan Di Somma

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:37:46 AM11/20/09
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Jeff:
 
Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise?
If so, where did you get it.
You can reply off list.
I am also looking into tube flies.
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma
 
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iain short

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:39:27 AM11/20/09
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Alan
If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook.
ist all ive ever used
iain




Jeff:
 
Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise?
If so, where did you get it.
You can reply off list.
I am also looking into tube flies.
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma
 
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?
Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks.


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Hi JC
look at the following link

http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/

if you have specific questions email me at iain...@hotmail.com

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Alan Di Somma

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:48:22 AM11/20/09
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Thanks iain,
but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies.
Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier.
Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field?
I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie.
I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes.
Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses.
 
 
Thank you,
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Don Ordes

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Nov 20, 2009, 11:31:08 AM11/20/09
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Alan,
 
Just an idea- I don't fish tube flies.  What about a long fisherman's loop that would go through the tube and loop through the hook eye, leaving the knot inside the tube, if it fits.  If not, leave the knot far enough in front of the tube to slip the leader back to undo the hook, and swap tube-flies and replace the hook.
 
Other than that, use a standard cinch-knot on the hook, and change tubes just as you would change reg. flies by cutting the knot.
 
If you are dragging big streamers for lakers, you could put a bead in front of the knot and in front of that a little helicopter spin-blade for added vibration to attract fish.
 
My 2 cents.
 
DonO

iain short

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:21:56 PM11/20/09
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I tie tubes from 3/8 inch to 2-1/2 inch.
I think i did a poor explanation of the blind eye hook.

The blind eye hooks have tapered shanks, so you just push the hook up the shank till it jams.

If you want to rotate the fly to access the other side just twist tube round the shank.

To fish the fly slip the tube fly onto the leader, tie the single or double or treble hook of your choice to the tip of your leader, fly slides down leader till it reaches the hook.
to keep the hook in line with the tube slip a piece of neoprene tube onto the bottom of the tube, pull the hook into it, hook and fly stay in line.

why not organise a tube fly swap

iain




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Don Ordes

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:33:00 PM11/20/09
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"why not organise a tube fly swap"  Iain
 
The 'Totally Tubular' swap, man.   Kewl man, gnarley, surf's up- hang ten.
 
I'll do a surfboard fly for fishing the tubes, dude.
 
Buggs
 
Not that kind of tube, Buggs...

iain short

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:39:36 PM11/20/09
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Buggs/DonO/Veronica

Because I can tie them, they want to learn, let them run the swap

iain


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Alan Di Somma

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:16:50 PM11/20/09
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Don O:
 
off your meds again, are we?

Alan Di Somma

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:23:39 PM11/20/09
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iain:
 
Either I am missing something or I just can't get the tapered shank .
What holds the tube and tapered shank to the tippet. Where do you tie these things together?
I believe that a tapered shank has no eye. Is that correct?
You have to lash monofilament to the shank, correct?

Don Ordes

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:06:08 PM11/20/09
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Alan, the tapered shank is for tying only. 
 
To fish, the eye of the hook snugs up against the back of the tube.
 
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Neville Gosling

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:01:00 PM11/20/09
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Alan:
 
The blind eye tapered shank hook is used merely to hold the tube when one applies the dressing to the tube. It is not used to fish the tube.
 
I have tied a lot of tubes and started by cutting the eye off a large salmon hook and then jamming the tube onto the remaining shank.
One needs two or three different sized salmon hooks to do this, dependant upon the size of tube that you are tying.
 
I now use either the HMH tube fly tool or the similar Eumer tool.
 
For fishing, I generally use an Owner single hook, the eye of the hook going inserted into a short piece of silicon or vinyl tube which is
placed at the hook end of the dressed tube.  The purpose of this is to keep the hook in line.
 
P.S. You can keep your Billy Pate and I'll go Hardy every time - it's just more fun!
 

Neville (Nev) Gosling
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Alan Di Somma

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:43:06 PM11/20/09
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What holds the tube to the tippet?

Alan Di Somma

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:49:22 PM11/20/09
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Thanks Neville.
I could not figure out why you used a tapered shank hook. I thought it was for fishing.
I was always assuming that who ever was tying the tube was using one of the tools to hold the tube....DUH!!!!!
 
BTW I know you are partial to Hardy reels but after getting my knuckles beaten and bloody from not getting my fingers out of the way fast enough, I'll take the Billy Pate.

iain short

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Nov 21, 2009, 12:57:38 AM11/21/09
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Alan

LOL... OK trying again .... you dont fish with the blind eye hook,

"you place the blind eye hook in the vice to mount the tube while you tie the fly" instead of buying one of those ekpensive fancy tube fly vices,

you then take the fly to the river of your choice to go fishing with it and

"slip the tube onto the line leader, tie a hook to the end of the leader and pull the fly back against the hook"


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Paul

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:23:57 AM11/21/09
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A simple tube "vise" for tying on Q-Tip tubes is made from a piece of
brass wire. I'll try and find a way to upload a photo to the group
site, but if I can't I'll post again and make it available in another
way. The idea can, of course, be extended to other tube diameters.
As well as silicone tubing, depending on the size, one can also use a
piece of shrink wrap tubing at the back of the tube to hold the hook.
One of my friends makes flies on tiny copper tubes and he made his own
pin vise for these.

cheers
Paul
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Paul

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Nov 21, 2009, 9:13:12 AM11/21/09
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I've added four files to the groups files. Should be self explanatory
but if not ...

cheers
Paul
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Alan Di Somma

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:34:16 AM11/21/09
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Now I get it.....
 
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Alan Di Somma

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:44:48 AM11/21/09
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Thatks Paul.
Remember I'm the one that couldn't figure out that the hook was only used
for tying, not fishing.
Is the group site on Google?


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma

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Alan Di Somma

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:13:44 AM11/21/09
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Paul:

I know you won't believe this but I actually found the site but I tried two
times to download it but it just froze up.
Can you send it to me please


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Paul

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:31:40 PM11/21/09
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Alan

Plug this in your browser
http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail/browse_thread/thread/028d1549dc063af5?hl=en

Then, at the top right click on files. This should take you to the
place where I posted the photos. Then all you have to do is click on
the individual photos to see a larger copy.

If that doesn't work for you, contact me off list and I'll send you
the photos.

cheers
Paul

Alan Di Somma

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:35:19 PM11/21/09
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Got it Paul. Thanks.
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