>The only problem I can see with this is that aforementioned newbies
>who don't really want to learn anything will buy a small pico tracker
>and put it in a large payload with camera and other gear, defeating
>the purpose of a pico tracker.
Why is this a problem?
Or, do you want to set rules about who is, and who is not, a newbie?
If so, I probably don't qualify.
Thank you for excluding me from the pico tracker system, I appreciate your help.
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Dave <d...@g0dja.co.uk> wrote:
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>> The only problem I can see with this is that aforementioned newbies
>> who don't really want to learn anything will buy a small pico tracker
>> and put it in a large payload with camera and other gear, defeating
>> the purpose of a pico tracker.
> Why is this a problem?
> Or, do you want to set rules about who is, and who is not, a newbie?
> If so, I probably don't qualify.
> Thank you for excluding me from the pico tracker system, I appreciate your
> help.
I think the implication simply that selling a pico tracker
specifically on the basis that pico balloons are not dangerous is a
flawed premise, because you can just put it in a big payload anyway.
i.e. it doesn't solve the problem that it's trying to. However given
you seem so aggrieved, maybe I'm missing something.
Anyway, personally I think all this talk of doing things specifically
'for newbies' serves no purpose. They can learn how we do it if they
want, and we can make a reasoned case for doing it our way too. Then
it's up to them.
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I have to say, I enjoyed watching the final moments of the tracker yesterday. Watching Dave's chase car home in on Buzz made tracking and recovery look very efficient (and easy!).
I was also very surprised a the large number of trackers and range of some of the interceptions. 10mW goes a long way when used properly! Is there a way to see the data from the receiver perspective (how many messages they received and at what height and range)?
How did the on board data collection go? I'd love to read and see more about the payloads.
Sorry I can't make the conference, I am currently based in Singapore. I am moving back to the UK in October and hope to have a MI3/6 callsign (or maybe a 2I one) by year end. Perhaps with ITAR to follow in 2013. ;)
With 'newbie who doesn't want to learn' I meant 'Joe Bloggs' as
mentioned earlier in the thread by Mark Jessop.
I too am a newbie and have gratefully copied other people's code to
use on my own tracker, but am eager to learn about all aspects of it,
software and hardware and have already learned a lot, and done my
homework on the legal aspects (balloons of less than 4kg payload and 4
cubic meters of He are allowed here in the Netherlands).
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Dave <d...@g0dja.co.uk> wrote:
> Why is this a problem?
> Or, do you want to set rules about who is, and who is not, a newbie?
> If so, I probably don't qualify.
> Thank you for excluding me from the pico tracker system, I appreciate your
> help.
> Dave (Morseman - G0DJA)
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If you got to http://habitat.habhub.org/stats/ and click 'Flights
List' then '5th Scout launch 1' you can see the breakdown by receiver,
though not their range. That system is still a very quick
demonstration -- in theory we do have all the information to calculate
range and present much cooler visualisations and graphics, but at the
moment we're mostly working on backend stuff. Once that's all out of
the way except a range of fun looking stats :D
Adam
On 30 July 2012 05:14, PhilipM <phil...@philipm.com> wrote:
> I have to say, I enjoyed watching the final moments of the tracker
> yesterday. Watching Dave's chase car home in on Buzz made tracking and
> recovery look very efficient (and easy!).
> I was also very surprised a the large number of trackers and range of some
> of the interceptions. 10mW goes a long way when used properly! Is there a
> way to see the data from the receiver perspective (how many messages they
> received and at what height and range)?
> How did the on board data collection go? I'd love to read and see more about
> the payloads.
> Sorry I can't make the conference, I am currently based in Singapore. I am
> moving back to the UK in October and hope to have a MI3/6 callsign (or maybe
> a 2I one) by year end. Perhaps with ITAR to follow in 2013. ;)
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Thanks to all who helped out on Sunday - we had plenty of receivers. The
flight went well, and the video feed I understand was good too aside from
when the camera decided to focus on the raindrops on my windscreen! Also
we lost 3G coverage right at the end, so although I was still on IRC via
2G, the video software refused to connect.
Having a bunch of scouts around was, erm, "interesting". The older ones
were great, getting involved and asking good questions, but the younger
ones had an attention span measured in seconds. Then they discovered the
live video stream, as some of you noticed ....
I've written it all up in a blog post - see
http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=613. There are links from there to the
videos and photos of the launch and recovery. I don't have the GoPro video
yet but I'll post here again when I do.
Dave
On 25 July 2012 12:23, David Akerman <calte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoping to do a launch on Sunday, from a site about midway between
> Nottingham and Mansfield. Nothing special - video plus 2 telemetry
> payloads, probably to around 30km.
> Expecting to launch around 1pm or so.
> Would appreciate a few listeners please, especially any "up north" :)
> First tracker is "5thSCOUT" (which you'll find right at the top of the
> list in dl-fldigi). This is actually Upu's pAVA tracker that I rescued
> from the triffids a couple of weeks ago. Telemetry unchanged aside from
> the payload ID.
> Second tracker is "BUZZ", exactly the same as I flew last time.
> Assuming a decent 3G connection I'll be running a live video stream from
> the launch site and hopefully the chase and recovery too.
> *QUICK REF*
> *=========*
> *
> *
> *5thSCOUT:* 434.200Mhz 7N2 with a 500Hz shift 50 baud RTTY
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