That's about £200 of damage to my car, but I'm not going to get it
fixed yet. I'll get the fuckwit next week and teach him to ride in
the gutter where he belongs.
Do psycholists buy these things at their meetings, or are they all
home-made?
--
Passenger casualty rates by mode Per billion passenger kilometers:
Killed or seriously injured:
Pedal Cyclists : 533 Pedestrians : 384
All casualties:
Pedal Cyclists : 3739 Pedestrians : 1795
Which do you think is the most dangerous?
Judy dear, some of your argument on here is fascinating, indeed,
refreshing. But this sort of comment reveals your true colours ie. that
of a troll, at best, or simply a total idiot.
> Judy dear, some of your argument on here is fascinating, indeed,
> refreshing. But this sort of comment reveals your true colours ie. that of
> a troll, at best, or simply a total idiot.
I like the idea of a spur. On the side of the shoe? That'll teach them to
drive so dangerously close.
>Judy dear, some of your argument on here is fascinating, indeed,
>refreshing. But this sort of comment reveals your true colours ie. that
>of a troll, at best, or simply a total idiot.
It's a forgery.
<http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.cycling/msg/c94e0cfe24ef5139?dmode=source>
I don't know who forged it but they are wasting their time - you
simply cannot make judith's reputation any worse than it already is.
Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc | http://www.nohelmetlaw.org.uk/
"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
Newsgroup may contain nuts.
While that maybe true, the original post still ended up in my KF.
<ahhh>
All is well :-)
Nah - it unbalances you. It's hard, really hard, to kick sideways on a bike
far enough to damage a car.
Every good psycholist knows that you just put sandpaper on your gloves and
leave them a nice bald spot on the roof (door if it's a chelsea tractor).
All the best,
pOB
According to the header it's someone posting as Judith through an
anonymous remailer. And while parts of the style are a pretty good
imitation, the overall content was over the top for her and closer
to Nuxx (who was responsible for our last wave of forgeries).
>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:26:02 +0100, Jerry J <jj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Judy dear, some of your argument on here is fascinating, indeed,
>>refreshing. But this sort of comment reveals your true colours ie. that
>>of a troll, at best, or simply a total idiot.
>
>It's a forgery.
><http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.cycling/msg/c94e0cfe24ef5139?dmode=source>
>
>I don't know who forged it but they are wasting their time - you
>simply cannot make judith's reputation any worse than it already is.
>
>Guy
Why do you persist in baiting judith and then moaning when she
responds?
Feel free to read the headers of the message - forgery by Chapman
Not me - feel free to read the headers of the message - forgery by
Chapman
Feel free to read the headers of the message - forgery by Chapman
> Feel free to read the headers of the message - forgery by Chapman
I think you will find that I was the first to point out that it was a
forgery. You have no evidence for your hysterical assertion that it
was me, which it was not. Your friends Nuxx and nully are the usual
suspects for forgery, I suggest you take it up with them.
I think Alan is right and that this was most likely Nuxx, but you
might struggle to find anyone here who actually cares - your
reputation is zero as is theirs and I don't see anyone here being
motivated to try to help you change that. If you don't want to be
impersonated then your best bet is to use authenticated PGP
signatures. The software is free.
--
Guy
>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:26:02 +0100, Jerry J <jj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Judy dear, some of your argument on here is fascinating, indeed,
>>refreshing. But this sort of comment reveals your true colours ie. that
>>of a troll, at best, or simply a total idiot.
>
>It's a forgery.
><http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.cycling/msg/c94e0cfe24ef5139?dmode=source>
>
>I don't know who forged it but they are wasting their time - you
>simply cannot make judith's reputation any worse than it already is.
>
>Guy
Cunning plan Guy - well done.
(What were you doing looking at the headers? - Just checking that
they were OK and no clues in them?)
Now what about this question:
Did you post as Lou Knee?
I really can't understand why you find it difficult to answer that
question.
Is it something to do with being a christian?
I did not make that post - I suspect that Mr Chapman is just trying
to make trouble - trying to give me a bad name :-)
See the header of it:
This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer
software.
Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
remailer administrator at <ab...@frell.theremailer.net>.
Identifying the real sender is technically impossible.
==================================================================
>You are not alone in this judgement. However I believe I'm not alone in the
>judgement that you've got far too little self control, and as such will
>always be a prime target for trolls.
Yes, I am aware of that.
Guy
--
5/6/2009 19:48
==================================================================
--
The BMA (British Medical Association) urges legislation to make the wearing of cycle helmets compulsory for both adults and children.
The evidence from those countries where compulsory cycle helmet use has already been introduced is that such legislation has a beneficial effect on cycle-related deaths and head injuries.
This strongly supports the case for introducing legislation in the UK. Such legislation should result in a reduction in the morbidity and mortality associated with cycling accidents.
And your evidence of that?
You have a way of making accusations about people and then being
unable to substantiate them - don't you.
--
"Primary position" the middle of a traffic lane. To take the "primary position" : to ride a bike in the middle of the lane in order to obstruct other road vehicles from overtaking.
A term invented by and used by psycholists and not recognised in the Highway Code.
Highway Code Rule 168 : "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass."
Any chance of explaining why you just happened to be browsing through
the headers of one of my posts?
I juts loved your post - was it only yesterday:
=====================================================================
>You are not alone in this judgement. However I believe I'm not alone in the
>judgement that you've got far too little self control, and as such will
>always be a prime target for trolls.
Yes, I am aware of that.
Guy
--
5/6/2009 19:48
=====================================================================
That's not actually what I said.
>might struggle to find anyone here who actually cares
Presumably the forger does or they wouldn't have bothered.
>In article <22ba8906-1172-4b2d...@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>
>>I think Alan is right and that this was most likely Nuxx
>
>That's not actually what I said.
You have come just come across the Chapman deceit machine; he'll be
suggesting it was Lou Knee next.
Aha! In that case I unreservedly apologise.
Doh! And there was I thinking it was a forgery by Lou Knee :-/
>> Not me - feel free to read the headers of the message - forgery by
>> Chapman
>Aha! In that case I unreservedly apologise.
Forgery yes, by me, absolutely not. Just to be clear here.
>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:20:50 +0100, Jerry J <jj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Not me - feel free to read the headers of the message - forgery by
>>> Chapman
>
>>Aha! In that case I unreservedly apologise.
>
>Forgery yes, by me, absolutely not. Just to be clear here.
>
>Guy
I love how you will sometimes absolutely deny doing something - and
when you do, I do actually believe you.
Why have you not denied posting as Lou Knee - but have tried to make
out deceitfully that it was not you?
Any chance of answering the simple question:
>
> You have a way of making accusations about people and then being
> unable to substantiate them - don't you.
>
>
>
No man is truly free with apple sauce on his pants.
Pot - kettle
Kettle - pot
Hello Guy - you are getting about a bit.
--
The Bicycle Helmet Research Foundation (BHRF) is an independent body with the message:
Helmets are not beneficial to cyclists - unless the evidence forces them to a dramatically different conclusion.
You are welcome to use my Scania as a test bed for such a device, I'll
drive as close as I can to you whilst you ride alongside a hedge or
wall and you can deploy your new weapon, I predict Scania 1, Cyclist
Nil.
Someone did that to me in Holland, he was very surprised when I
stopped and shook him warmly by the throat, threatened me with arrest
et al but the cops didn't show. Just bear in mind to every action
there can be a reaction that may be more forceful than the original.
Sorry NM but I should have mentioned that this will not work with HGVs. The
only solution is to keep the HGV behind or in front but never by the side.
If an HGV looks like it might overtake, the best action is to make sure you
have somewhere to go. Once you are not visible from the cab windscreen as
far as the driver is concerned you do not exists. Allow them to pass at your
peril...
Perhaps some of the pedal clip manufacturers
could help us out here?
BugBear
>
> Every good psycholist knows that you just put sandpaper on your gloves and
> leave them a nice bald spot on the roof (door if it's a chelsea tractor).
>
Isn't this what the padding on the gloves are for?
The slap on the car roof that sounds like thunder inside --
The sonic boom that stops the buggers in their tracks.
No damage, no mess, no scratches - just a reminder that a couple of
coats of paint is a bit too close.
--
Come to Dave & Boris - your cycle security experts.
Ninja Studded Gloves:
http://www.nwssportsuk.co.uk/ninja-studded-gloves-leather-p-2588.html
We do not counsel the use of these unless one really is a Ninja. The Mgt.
--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
If you want a bicycle, buy a bicycle. If you want something
that folds, buy a deckchair.
Apart from the legal and ethical issues, the idea sounds extremely
dangerous to the cyclist --- what if this "spur" snags on the car and
you get dragged along?
Hmm. Perhaps some kind of quick release, as used on skis?
BugBear
Sounds dangerous to me. the advice presupposes that the car driver
will not react whereas the reaction you could get may well not be the
one you expect and could be very painful. Road rage taking over could
cause a car to be launched in your general direction with possible
unhappy consequences for all concerned.
Better not to do such silly things really.
<mileburner puts on sensible head>
If a car or other vehicle comes too close when overtaking, simply lean to
the left and move to the left by about half a metre. As soon as they pass,
check behind and move back to the safer position of at least a metre away
from the kerb/verge.
<mileburner removes sensible head>
Probably the rider just had studs in his mountain bike cycling shoes.
I have half inch rugby studs fitted in the toes of my shoes, great for
walking in muddy conditions and now, it seems, also useful for
scratching cars.
Yes of course you do - has school finished early today?
> Sounds dangerous to me. the advice presupposes that the car driver
> will not react whereas the reaction you could get may well not be the
> one you expect and could be very painful. Road rage taking over could
> cause a car to be launched in your general direction with possible
> unhappy consequences for all concerned.
>
> Better not to do such silly things really.
Exactly. It would be more prudent to wait until the driver has stopped
and left the protection of his warm cocoon-like vehicle then get a
couple of mates to hold the gutless coward while you knife him
I assume this is acceptable in a civilised society. I mean, the
preceding post seeks to excuse road rage on the part of car drivers, so
I guess it must be.
-dan
Daniel Barlow wrote:
> NM <nik.m...@mac.com> writes:
>
> > Sounds dangerous to me. the advice presupposes that the car driver
> > will not react whereas the reaction you could get may well not be the
> > one you expect and could be very painful. Road rage taking over could
> > cause a car to be launched in your general direction with possible
> > unhappy consequences for all concerned.
> >
> > Better not to do such silly things really.
>
> Exactly. It would be more prudent to wait until the driver has stopped
> and left the protection of his warm cocoon-like vehicle then get a
> couple of mates to hold the gutless coward while you knife him
Two mates??? and he's the coward???
>
> I assume this is acceptable in a civilised society. I mean, the
> preceding post seeks to excuse road rage on the part of car drivers, so
> I guess it must be.
>
Sadly you seem to lack comprehension skills, there is no excusing of
any act by any party in my post, pointing out possible consequences is
not offering excuses, even your guess is incorrect. Try reading it
again.
This is not helpful.
If you absolutely have to do this, please make it amusing.
--
Roger Thorpe
Standing on a golf course, dressed in PVC.....
>On Jun 6, 11:35�am, Judith M Smith <judithmsm...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Feel free to read the headers of the message - forgery by Chapman
>
>I think you will find that I was the first to point out that it was a
>forgery. You have no evidence for your hysterical assertion that it
>was me, which it was not. Your friends Nuxx and nully are the usual
>suspects for forgery, I suggest you take it up with them.
>
Just in case anyone still wasn't sure which side of the fence to fall,
here is yet ANOTHER completely baseless and potentially libellous
allegation from Chapman. I have never forged a post in this or any
other group but it suits his agenda to try and discredit those who
oppose him.
I choose a different method of resolving differences than Nuxx, though
I recognise his method has undoubted merits. I prefer a good
old-fashioned face to face 'chat'.
>bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> considered Mon, 08 Jun
>Leather knee & elbow guards, covered with the type of metal studs
>favoured by 1950s rockers.
>Nobody could object to cyclists wearing protective equipment, could
>they?
Have you found the reference to that figure yet - you know the one
which says that 8 pedestrians are killed every day through tripping up
and slipping on dog shit.
You are now looking rather silly over it
--
Someone calling himself Lou Knee made a post in urc
referring to another poster as "a piece of shit".
The post was made from an IP address which had been used in urc over the last 6 years
uniquely by Guy Chapman.
All available evidence points to Lou Knee being a nym shift of Guy Chapman.
A respected poster to URC, JNugent, has categorically asked Guy Chapman if he has ever posted using the name Lou Knee.
Guy Chapman has refused to answer this question.
Conclusion: Guy Chapman and Lou Knee are one and the same despicable person.
> Sadly you seem to lack comprehension skills, there is no excusing of
> any act by any party in my post
That's the funniest thing I've read all day.
Sadly, I don't suppose you intended it to be.
-dan
So it's OK to forge someone's identity as long as it is amusing is it?
I believe it is Chapman; two questions for him:
Did you post this forgery?
Did you post as Lo Knee?
> Leather knee & elbow guards, covered with the type of metal studs
> favoured by 1950s rockers.
> Nobody could object to cyclists wearing protective equipment, could
> they?
Yebbut do you /really/ want to ride around the place looking like Rob
Halford?
--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Flies are the work of Stan, and should be killed by all means
available.
Features "Stiff sole with competition tread and front metal screw-in studs
for extra grip". Still want to claim that Marz doesn't own such shoes?
--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
a yo-yo" - Enoch Root.
>Judith M Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>> Have you found the reference to that figure yet - you know the one
>> which says that 8 pedestrians are killed every day through tripping up
>> and slipping on dog shit.
>
>The obvious solution is to get rid of dogs.
>
But you would then have to go back to masturbation.
<Splutter> New keyboard required!
Open goal.
--
Guy
You wanna meet up Guy and discuss these little issues face to face?
Open mouth in your case