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Phillip Walters

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Oct 2, 2007, 10:21:57 AM10/2/07
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Just released (or just escaped ) the bastard child of Samsung and Bang
and Olufsen. They call it a phone, but if Band O are involved it was
bound to look "Different". Apparently billed as an iPhone rival by some
people.
http://www.serenatamobile.com/

Phil

Jim

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Oct 2, 2007, 10:25:07 AM10/2/07
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It, er, looks like a shaver.

Hmmm.

Jim
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Marco Bakker

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Oct 2, 2007, 10:42:36 AM10/2/07
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Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

They are so happy with it that both company names are shown twice on the
front of the phone. A funny piece of crap it is, because it looks like
it's upside down and you have to put your ear next to a scroll wheel to
hear something, very intuitive. On the backside there is an aluminium
cover you can flip over to access an ashtray or something.

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marco

Phillip Walters

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Oct 2, 2007, 10:43:37 AM10/2/07
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Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> On 2007-10-02, Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > Just released (or just escaped ) the bastard child of Samsung and Bang
> > and Olufsen. They call it a phone, but if Band O are involved it was
> > bound to look "Different". Apparently billed as an iPhone rival by some
> > people.
> > http://www.serenatamobile.com/
>
> It, er, looks like a shaver.
>
> Hmmm.
>
> Jim

Its the ugliest bloody phone I have ever seen, I suppose its one of
those love it or hate it things.

Phil

Sara Kirk

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Oct 2, 2007, 10:47:40 AM10/2/07
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In article <1i5d3w3.1ie8dht1gai7nuN%pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com>,
pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com (Phillip Walters) wrote:

Ugly, ugly, ugly.

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Phillip Walters

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Oct 2, 2007, 10:50:20 AM10/2/07
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Marco Bakker <marco....@gmail.com> wrote:

Its worthwhile clicking on the tabs, just for amusement, apparently the
shape was inspired by pebbles and it has a sensi-touch display (reminds
me of something or other) and of course an ashtray as mentioned. The
ring tones are really worth a listen.

Phil

Mentally Sub-Normal

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Oct 2, 2007, 11:28:27 AM10/2/07
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On Oct 2, 3:21 pm, pjwalt...@nospamdsl.pipex.com (Phillip Walters)
wrote:

Looks like it would be more at home on the front deck of the
Enterprise. But, to echo Sara, ugly, ugly, ugly.

I guess you could say "It's a phone, Jim, but not as we know it..."


Sarah

Peter Ceresole

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Oct 2, 2007, 11:35:02 AM10/2/07
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Sara Kirk <sara...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Ugly, ugly, ugly.

All those concentric curves. Yuck. The moral is, never design anything
using a compass.
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DBSnappa

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Oct 2, 2007, 11:46:33 AM10/2/07
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Wasn't that married to Elton John for a while?

Phillip Walters

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Oct 2, 2007, 11:52:28 AM10/2/07
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DBSnappa <davidjb...@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> wrote:

At least she was woman shaped, this thing looks like nothing on earth !

Phil

robda...@yahoo.com

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Oct 2, 2007, 11:53:28 AM10/2/07
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On Oct 2, 3:42 pm, marco.bak...@gmail.com (Marco Bakker) wrote:

Reading your responses, it is clear that you are all just a bunch of
APPLE FANBOYS.

You haven't even seen or used the B&O product and are quick to dismiss
it.


Phillip Walters

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Oct 2, 2007, 11:57:35 AM10/2/07
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<robda...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Sorry B and O, I thought it said B and Q, I was just on my way out to
road test it.

Phil

Woody

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Oct 2, 2007, 1:29:20 PM10/2/07
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Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> <robda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 2, 3:42 pm, marco.bak...@gmail.com (Marco Bakker) wrote:
> > > Phillip Walters <pjwalt...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > > > Just released (or just escaped ) the bastard child of Samsung and Bang
> > > > and Olufsen. They call it a phone, but if Band O are involved it was
> > > > bound to look "Different". Apparently billed as an iPhone rival by some
> > > > people.
> > > >http://www.serenatamobile.com/
> > >
> > > They are so happy with it that both company names are shown twice on the
> > > front of the phone. A funny piece of crap it is, because it looks like
> > > it's upside down and you have to put your ear next to a scroll wheel to
> > > hear something, very intuitive. On the backside there is an aluminium
> > > cover you can flip over to access an ashtray or something.

> > > marco
> >
> > Reading your responses, it is clear that you are all just a bunch of
> > APPLE FANBOYS.
> >
> > You haven't even seen or used the B&O product and are quick to dismiss
> > it.
>
> Sorry B and O, I thought it said B and Q, I was just on my way out to
> road test it.

It would look better if it was made by B&Q.


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Woody

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Oct 2, 2007, 1:29:20 PM10/2/07
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Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> Just released (or just escaped ) the bastard child of Samsung and Bang
> and Olufsen. They call it a phone, but if Band O are involved it was
> bound to look "Different". Apparently billed as an iPhone rival by some
> people.

Blind people?

You don't get much uglier than that do you?


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Woody

www.alienrat.com

Peter Ceresole

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Oct 2, 2007, 1:34:38 PM10/2/07
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<robda...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You haven't even seen or used the B&O product and are quick to dismiss
> it.

We've not used it but we've certainly seen the photos. And it's fugly.
What's to discuss?
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Peter

Frédérique & Hervé Sainct

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Oct 2, 2007, 2:25:52 PM10/2/07
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Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> http://www.serenatamobile.com/

brilliant, but... how much?

(also, it seems the ay to type an SMS is rather convoluted, with such a
large touch-sensitive screen, they manage to show you only one row of
letters at a time?!)

If it is cheaper than an iPhone (and/or comes with a bundled carrier
contract that be less aggressive), well, yes...

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Roger Merriman

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Oct 2, 2007, 2:49:16 PM10/2/07
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Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

mmm a 2.3 inch screen, music player with a scroll wheel pre iphone would
be impressive. after it just looks dated.

roger
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Wayne Stuart

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Oct 2, 2007, 3:07:46 PM10/2/07
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Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

Looks like it's got a rubber edge around it. Kinda like a little toy
bumper car! So it should be pretty good if you drop it. Unlike an
iPhone, which I'd be scared to use anywhere but a bouncy castle.

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zoara

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Oct 2, 2007, 3:28:31 PM10/2/07
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Wayne Stuart <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> Looks like it's got a rubber edge around it. Kinda like a little toy
> bumper car! So it should be pretty good if you drop it. Unlike an
> iPhone, which I'd be scared to use anywhere but a bouncy castle.

Have you seen the iPhone stress tests? They're damned hardy little
things.

-z-

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Woody

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Oct 2, 2007, 4:10:22 PM10/2/07
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Roger Merriman <NE...@wodger.demon.co.uk> wrote:

You would think so, until you saw it wouldn't you? Pre-iphone it would
have looked dated. In fact, since the philishave it looks dated.

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Stimpy

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Oct 2, 2007, 5:09:50 PM10/2/07
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On 2/10/07 18:34, "Peter Ceresole" wrote:
>
>> You haven't even seen or used the B&O product and are quick to dismiss
>> it.
>
> We've not used it but we've certainly seen the photos. And it's fugly.
> What's to discuss?

...and if it's a B&O product, it'll sound like crap. The B&O fan element
won't accept this and will insist it's the pinnacle of sound engineering.

If there's one thing more blind to faults than an Apple 'fanboy', it's a B&O
one.

Robert Moir

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Oct 2, 2007, 5:43:39 PM10/2/07
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<robda...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1191340408.7...@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

>
> Reading your responses, it is clear that you are all just a bunch of
> APPLE FANBOYS.
>
> You haven't even seen or used the B&O product and are quick to dismiss
> it.

You only need to read that website to quickly see its unique selling points
compared to an iPhone is that it does less (and I've already criticised the
iPhone for lacking functions) and it's a damn sight uglier. So why would
anyone want one?


Wayne Stuart

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Oct 2, 2007, 6:38:10 PM10/2/07
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zoara <me...@privacy.net> wrote:

> Wayne Stuart <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Looks like it's got a rubber edge around it. Kinda like a little toy
> > bumper car! So it should be pretty good if you drop it. Unlike an
> > iPhone, which I'd be scared to use anywhere but a bouncy castle.
>
> Have you seen the iPhone stress tests? They're damned hardy little
> things.

I've seen YouTube videos of them being dropped, and yes, usually a bit
of scuffing around the edges is the sum total of damage, but still, I'd
be very nervous about testing one's resiliency myself.

DBSnappa

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Oct 3, 2007, 4:26:09 AM10/3/07
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I always viewed B&O stuff as industrial design for the sake of it, with
mediocre innards built for the 'Stella'[1] crowd who have more money
than brains. Bose and their £400 clock radios fall into this territory.
"I don't care what it sounds like, it just has to look cool"

[1] reassuringly expensive.

Roger Merriman

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Oct 3, 2007, 4:31:36 AM10/3/07
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Wayne Stuart <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> zoara <me...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Wayne Stuart <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like it's got a rubber edge around it. Kinda like a little toy
> > > bumper car! So it should be pretty good if you drop it. Unlike an
> > > iPhone, which I'd be scared to use anywhere but a bouncy castle.
> >
> > Have you seen the iPhone stress tests? They're damned hardy little
> > things.
>
> I've seen YouTube videos of them being dropped, and yes, usually a bit
> of scuffing around the edges is the sum total of damage, but still, I'd
> be very nervous about testing one's resiliency myself.

the ipods have all been tough as old boots if not scrach restiant, the
nano's where easly scrached?

roger
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DBSnappa

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Oct 3, 2007, 4:35:35 AM10/3/07
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Frédérique & Hervé Sainct wrote:
> Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.serenatamobile.com/
>
> brilliant, but... how much?
>
> (also, it seems the ay to type an SMS is rather convoluted, with such a
> large touch-sensitive screen, they manage to show you only one row of
> letters at a time?!)
>
> If it is cheaper than an iPhone (and/or comes with a bundled carrier
> contract that be less aggressive), well, yes...
>
Some of the techy sites (Inquirer and the Reg) speculated that the phone
it is succeeding was nearly £700, allied to the fact that it is made by
B&O who's entire company philosophy seems to be predicated on expensive
for the fools with more money than sense brigade, I'd say the chances of
it being cheap are on a par with Steve Jobs resigning to go and work for
Microsoft on the same day I get invited to the Pope's wedding.

robda...@yahoo.com

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Oct 3, 2007, 10:42:52 AM10/3/07
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On Oct 2, 4:57 pm, pjwalt...@nospamdsl.pipex.com (Phillip Walters)
wrote:
> Phil- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Dude,

Bang & Olufsen have an excellent reputation.

Have you ever owned any of their products?

Didn't think so.

Rob Da Bank

Phillip Walters

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Oct 3, 2007, 10:53:55 AM10/3/07
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<robda...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dude,
>
> Bang & Olufsen have an excellent reputation.
>
> Have you ever owned any of their products?
>
> Didn't think so.
>
> Rob Da Bank

An excellent reputation for squeezing the maximum amount of money out of
anyone stupid enough to pay it.

Robert Moir

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Oct 3, 2007, 1:24:41 PM10/3/07
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<robda...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1191422572.1...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...


>
> Dude,
>
> Bang & Olufsen have an excellent reputation.

Yes. The opinion of both Bang and Olufsen fanboys, and people who are too
embarassed to admit they don't know why they just spent so much money, is
that B&O are second to none.


Frédérique & Hervé Sainct

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Oct 3, 2007, 1:35:54 PM10/3/07
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DBSnappa <davidjb...@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> wrote:

> I'd say the chances of it being cheap are on a par with Steve Jobs
> resigning to go and work for Microsoft on the same day I get invited to
> the Pope's wedding.

:-D

You and the Pope, I don't know, but for S. Jobs I understand you mean
it's quite unlikely :-)

Wayne Stuart

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Oct 3, 2007, 3:21:01 PM10/3/07
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Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

Hmmm... similar thing has been said of us Mac users from time to time by
those who don't know any better. Make of that what you will.

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james...@yahoo.com

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Oct 6, 2007, 9:33:47 AM10/6/07
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On Oct 3, 8:21 pm, m...@privacy.net (Wayne Stuart) wrote:
> Phillip Walters <pjwalt...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

quite

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone/bill-maher-rips-iphone-fanboys-a-new-one-300518.php

MUTHER-FUCKING-APPLE-FANBOYS!!!

Phillip Walters

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Oct 6, 2007, 9:39:31 AM10/6/07
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<james...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am buying an iPhone, but still thought the video was very funny. By
the way mother is spelt with an 'O' where I come from.

Phil

Tim Streater

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Oct 6, 2007, 10:28:27 AM10/6/07
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In article <1191677627.8...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
james...@yahoo.com wrote:

I couldn't understand a thing the doofus was babbling about due to his
wierdo accent.

OldSage

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Oct 7, 2007, 9:15:51 PM10/7/07
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> On Oct 3, 8:21 pm, m...@privacy.net (Wayne Stuart) wrote:
> > Phillip Walters <pjwalt...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > > <robda.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Dude,
> >
> > > > Bang & Olufsen have an excellent reputation.

I missed the early posts in this thread but I can't let this comment
pass without a response.

B & O do have an excellent reputation but...for beauty, not quality.
Their products are relatively mundane in terms of electronic quality
but they do look beautiful.

Inside a well-designed box is very ordinary electronics but no one will
complain because, perhaps, their amateur ears are over-ruled (or
fooled) by their gratified eyes.

I'm not complaining. In a domestic setting, you couldn't ask for much
more. But, for professional or serious amateur use, no.

And, I think, top-end pricing. But that's design for you.

Roger Merriman

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Oct 8, 2007, 5:23:51 AM10/8/07
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Woody <use...@alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

it does have a experiment look, like some of the odder nokia's?

roger
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Roger Merriman

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Oct 8, 2007, 5:23:51 AM10/8/07
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Phillip Walters <pjwa...@nospamdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> One thing in its favour is 3G, probably the only thing though.
>
> Phil

to be honest most phones are fairly clunky and slow browsers so their
probably isn't that much in it, more worring is the lack of edge
coverage.

roger
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