Re: [TX/RX Labs] Digest for txrxlabs@googlegroups.com - 13 Messages in 6 Topics

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Roland von Kurnatowski III

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Mar 15, 2013, 6:48:16 PM3/15/13
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@ Chris Halloway
Could you please show a little more decorum on our public forums.

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    greg southerland <greg...@hotmail.com> Mar 14 01:34PM -0500  

    I have raises 3100.00 so far the guy wants us to get as close to 8000 as we can. I feel if we raised 5000 he might take it.
     
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    Chris Holloway <im.chris...@gmail.com> Mar 14 02:51PM -0500  

    That's almost four MakerBot Replicator 2 printers or three Replicator 2X
    printers. Have you looked into the printing quality of these printers? I'm
    pretty impressed with the print quality from the new MakerBot printers.

     

    Jeremy Van Grinsven <jv4...@gmail.com> Mar 14 04:18PM -0500  

    Using a team delta printer as the spaces' primary printer would help get
    any kinks worked out. As well as gaining experience supporting it.
    On Mar 14, 2013 2:51 PM, "Chris Holloway" <im.chris...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
     

     

    Jonathan Flynn <jonaf...@gmail.com> Mar 14 12:27PM -0700  

    I'll check with the lab to see if the hardware rig will work with ATI
    stuff. Thanks for the offer, and I'll let you know.
     
    - Jon
     
    On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:34:11 PM UTC-5, Charlie Lindahl wrote:

     

    Jonathan Flynn <jonaf...@gmail.com> Mar 14 02:11PM -0700  

    Nevermind. Apparently the lab manager found a proper replacement. Thanks
    for the offer though.
     
    - Jon
     
    On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:34:11 PM UTC-5, Charlie Lindahl wrote:

     

    greg southerland <greg...@hotmail.com> Mar 14 02:55PM -0500  

    The software that ships with it transferred over at time if sale this information was obtained from stratisys
     
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    greg southerland <greg...@hotmail.com> Mar 14 12:01PM -0500  

    This printer has the break away support material. I plan on making an offer this weekend and negotiating a price so i need to know how much we have promised please respond to myself or Roland with your pledge. My email is greg...@hotmail.com
     
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    Joe Kerman <jke...@gmail.com> Mar 14 12:20PM -0500  

    (lurker from sector67 hackerspace in Madison, WI here)
     
    Be sure to talk to someone who has experience operating one of those
    printers before making the jump to buy it. Particularly about
    sourcing plastic and support material (you can modify the machine to
    use regular ABS plastic by emulating the chip in the cartridge), not
    sure about the support material, which is PLA). The plastic costs
    around $240/lb, and the support material slightly more. The support
    material also requires a washing station, and a caustic chemical (lye)
    to dissolve.
     
    Also beware that the software required to drive them is
    non-transferable (according to the license) and you may have to
    repurchase it for thousands of dollars to stay within the legal bounds
    of it.
     
    They really arent much more capable than a modern makerbot. The parts
    that come from a replicator 2 are almost indistinguishable from the
    parts from a 1200. (we pass a part from each around when we do tours
    of the hackerspace, and most visitors cant tell the difference) It
    also prints significantly slower. The support material is about the
    only good trick it has up its sleeve, but washing parts in the support
    bath causes them to weaken, and be unable to handle any sort of
    structural load. Think of it as a machine to make "models", not
    "parts"
     
    The 3d scanner is pretty cool! But beware of the same software
    licensing issues. We are currently borrowing a nextengine 3d scanner,
    and the software license costs as much as the hardware (around $3500+
    for each), and the scanner has turned out to be minimally useful for
    3d printing. Although its outstanding for any type of 3d modeling that
    will remain on a computer, such as video games or 3d environments. If
    you have a ton of experience with 3d modeling software, the scan can
    get you a huge jump start, but they just require so damn much cleanup
    that its not worth it without that skill. We have also found the
    scanner to be useful for modeling parts that have to line up to other
    parts. i.e. scanning the curve of a surface, so you can design a part
    to fit that surface.
     
     
     
     
     
    On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM, greg southerland

     

    greg southerland <greg...@hotmail.com> Mar 14 12:25PM -0500  

    The is a break away support material the type that uses a bath. The polymer is expensive it is not a replacement for the printers we have it is for special parts requiring higher resolution. You don't run it for fun making keychains
     
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    Mike <mi...@mreynolds.com> Mar 14 09:43AM -0500  

    Greg,
     
    Can you get more details on the printer itself? The link below is a local
    link on his hard drive. I am interested but would like to see more of what
    my contribution would be funding.
     

     

    Jason Kirkpatrick <jason...@gmail.com> Mar 14 09:17AM -0700  

    Looks interesting. Especially the scanner since I can't look up the
    printer's link. LOL Will this hold until next week? Out of town right
    now but might be interested in helping out.
     
    On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:24:06 PM UTC-6, steelcutter wrote:

     

    "Chris Holloway" <im.chris...@gmail.com> Mar 14 11:46AM -0500  

    It was challenging (5 seconds of google searching) but I found this.
     

     
    http://www.dimensionprinting.com/3d-printers/printing-productspecs1200series
    .aspx
     

     

     

     
    From: txrx...@googlegroups.com [mailto:txrx...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
    Of Mike
    Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:44 AM
    To: txrx...@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: [TX/RX Labs] 3d printing and scanner could happen soon
     

     
    Greg,
     

     
    Can you get more details on the printer itself? The link below is a local
    link on his hard drive. I am interested but would like to see more of what
    my contribution would be funding.
     
    On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM, greg southerland <greg...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
     
     
    we have an opportunity to purchase the printer and scanner listed below. we
    have been talking around the shop about having a serious 3d printer.
    it is in storage right now and he wants to get rid of it. we have 3200.00
    collected from a few members and need more. if everyone pitches in a little
    bit or a lot we could own it.
    all I ask is that if you pledge something then please come through as we
    have to meet our pledge. so please give all you can and i will do my best to
    get the best deal. send your pledges to Roland or Greg southerland on google
    groups. i will make the offer this weekend. this is a professional 3d
    printer and scanner.
     
    _____
     
     
     
     
     
    Here is the links to the units we have.
     

     
    This is the printer link. We have the 1200 model
     
    file:///C:/Users/Matthew%20Henson%20II/Desktop/Print%203D%20Models%20-%20120
    0es%20Series%203D%20Printer%20%20%20Dimension%203D%20Printers.htm
    <file:///C:\Users\Matthew%20Henson%20II\Desktop\Print%203D%20Models%20-%2012
    00es%20Series%203D%20Printer%20%20%20Dimension%203D%20Printers.htm>
     

     
    and here is the scanner link. They have changed the design a bit and you
    will probably have to buy the newest program from them.
     
    http://www.3d3solutions.com/products/3d-scanner/hdi-advance/
     

     

     

     

     
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I'm not sure what you are talking about exactly. If you are referencing my joke at the very beginning of this conversation, it was only a joke. Since you have included the entire conversation, I can only assume you are spelling in regards to the entire conversion, in which I think my decorum was fine. I was expressing legitimate concerns with the cost of the dimension printers vs comparable "homebrew" printers. If you wish to discuss this further, we can continue here or take it offline as it should have been from the start.

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