Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all pixellated. That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it supported it either...
> Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was
> totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all pixellated.
> That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it
> supported it either...
We're aware of the text rendering issues and UI issues on the Retina
Display MBP and will address these as soon as we can.
Regards,
Patrick Woolsey
==
Bare Bones Software, Inc. <http://www.barebones.com>
P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048
On Monday, 2 July 2012 14:55:40 UTC-4, Patrick Woolsey wrote:
> At 10:00 -0700 07/02/2012, Lawson wrote: > > Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was > > totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all pixellated. > > That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it > > supported it either...
> We're aware of the text rendering issues and UI issues on the Retina > Display MBP and will address these as soon as we can.
> Regards,
> Patrick Woolsey > == > Bare Bones Software, Inc. <http://www.barebones.com> > P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048
On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:33:47 AM UTC-4, Dwight Dickinson wrote:
> Looking forward to crisp editing :).
> On Monday, 2 July 2012 14:55:40 UTC-4, Patrick Woolsey wrote:
>> At 10:00 -0700 07/02/2012, Lawson wrote: >> > Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was >> > totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all >> pixellated. >> > That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it >> > supported it either...
>> We're aware of the text rendering issues and UI issues on the Retina >> Display MBP and will address these as soon as we can.
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:00:18 PM UTC-7, tronster wrote:
> If there was just an upvote button, I'd click it! > Also looking forward to retina display support.
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:33:47 AM UTC-4, Dwight Dickinson wrote:
>> Looking forward to crisp editing :).
>> On Monday, 2 July 2012 14:55:40 UTC-4, Patrick Woolsey wrote:
>>> At 10:00 -0700 07/02/2012, Lawson wrote: >>> > Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was >>> > totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all >>> pixellated. >>> > That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it >>> > supported it either...
>>> We're aware of the text rendering issues and UI issues on the Retina >>> Display MBP and will address these as soon as we can.
On Monday, July 2, 2012 1:55:40 PM UTC-5, Patrick Woolsey wrote:
> At 10:00 -0700 07/02/2012, Lawson wrote: > > Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was > > totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all pixellated. > > That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it > > supported it either...
> We're aware of the text rendering issues and UI issues on the Retina > Display MBP and will address these as soon as we can.
> Regards,
> Patrick Woolsey > == > Bare Bones Software, Inc. <http://www.barebones.com> > P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048
On Monday, July 2, 2012 1:55:40 PM UTC-5, Patrick Woolsey wrote:
> At 10:00 -0700 07/02/2012, Lawson wrote: > > Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was > > totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all pixellated. > > That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it > > supported it either...
> We're aware of the text rendering issues and UI issues on the Retina > Display MBP and will address these as soon as we can.
> Regards,
> Patrick Woolsey > == > Bare Bones Software, Inc. <http://www.barebones.com> > P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048
On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 2:00:26 AM UTC+9, Lawson wrote:
> Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all pixellated. That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it supported it either...
On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 12:00:26 AM UTC+7, Lawson wrote:
> Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was > totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all pixellated. > That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it > supported it either...
On 8/16/12 at 9:24 PM, robert.is...@gmail.com wrote:
>Really need this feature too! Obviously, I dont want to switch >to another editor.
>On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 12:00:26 AM UTC+7, Lawson wrote:
>>Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook >>Pro? I was totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and >>it was all pixellated. That feature alone would almost be >>worth getting BBEdit, if only it supported it either...
I just yesterday migrated my primary computer from Snow Leopard on a first gen MacBook to Mountain Lion on a brand new Retina Display MacBook Pro. FWIW, I am not seeing this issue. The text in TextWrangler looks absolutely normal OMM. I've tried a variety of fonts and sizes and everything, including my favored Monaco 9.
-- Christopher Bort
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> On 8/16/12 at 9:24 PM, robert.is...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Really need this feature too! Obviously, I dont want to switch to another editor.
>> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 12:00:26 AM UTC+7, Lawson wrote:
>>> Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I was totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all pixellated. That feature alone would almost be worth getting BBEdit, if only it supported it either...
> I just yesterday migrated my primary computer from Snow Leopard on a first gen MacBook to Mountain Lion on a brand new Retina Display MacBook Pro. FWIW, I am not seeing this issue. The text in TextWrangler looks absolutely normal OMM. I've tried a variety of fonts and sizes and everything, including my favored Monaco 9.
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On 8/24/12 at 4:31 PM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>Maybe you need a retina upgrade. :-P
While my retinas are not quite what they may have been a decade or so ago, I can still read 9 point Monaco clearly, so they must not be too bad yet. 8^)
>On Aug 24, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Christopher Bort
><top...@thehundredacre.net> wrote:
>>On 8/16/12 at 9:24 PM, robert.is...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Really need this feature too! Obviously, I dont want to switch to
>>> another editor.
>>> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 12:00:26 AM UTC+7, Lawson wrote:
>>>> Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook >>>>Pro? I
>>>> was totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all
>>>> pixellated. That feature alone would almost be worth getting
>>>> BBEdit, if only it supported it either...
>>I just yesterday migrated my primary computer from Snow Leopard on a
>>first gen MacBook to Mountain Lion on a brand new Retina Display
>>MacBook Pro. FWIW, I am not seeing this issue. The text in
>>TextWrangler looks absolutely normal OMM. I've tried a variety of
>>fonts and sizes and everything, including my favored Monaco 9.
I left my MacBook Pro at work, so I wasn't able to (constructively) comment until now.
Monaco at 9pt is actually intentionally pixellated/blocky, so it looks the same on a retina vs. non-retina display. I code in 18pt (who's blind now?), and the difference is painfully obvious.
> On 8/24/12 at 4:31 PM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>> Maybe you need a retina upgrade. :-P
> While my retinas are not quite what they may have been a decade or so ago, I can still read 9 point Monaco clearly, so they must not be too bad yet. 8^)
>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Christopher Bort
>> <top...@thehundredacre.net> wrote:
>>> On 8/16/12 at 9:24 PM, robert.is...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Really need this feature too! Obviously, I dont want to switch to
>>>> another editor.
>>>> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 12:00:26 AM UTC+7, Lawson wrote:
>>>>> Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I
>>>>> was totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all
>>>>> pixellated. That feature alone would almost be worth getting
>>>>> BBEdit, if only it supported it either...
>>> I just yesterday migrated my primary computer from Snow Leopard on a
>>> first gen MacBook to Mountain Lion on a brand new Retina Display
>>> MacBook Pro. FWIW, I am not seeing this issue. The text in
>>> TextWrangler looks absolutely normal OMM. I've tried a variety of
>>> fonts and sizes and everything, including my favored Monaco 9.
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On 8/27/12 at 6:36 AM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>I left my MacBook Pro at work, so I wasn't able to >(constructively) comment until now.
>Monaco at 9pt is actually intentionally pixellated/blocky, so it looks
>the same on a retina vs. non-retina display. I code in 18pt (who's
>blind now?), and the difference is painfully obvious.
I'm aware of Monaco's design and purpose. It's why I prefer it for plain text. As I've said, I've tried a variety of fonts and sizes, up to 24 pt, in TextWrangler. Font smoothing seems to be working just fine and everything is perfectly readable for me. I don't see any difference between TextWrangler and other applications on this system. I believe that people are seeing issues with text rendering on Retina displays, but on my own install, it appears to be behaving as expected. I'm simply offering this as a data point that might suggest there could be some other factor(s) in play besides just the retina display.
>On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Christopher Bort wrote:
>>On 8/24/12 at 4:31 PM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>>> Maybe you need a retina upgrade. :-P
>>While my retinas are not quite what they may have been a decade or so ago, I
>can still read 9 point Monaco clearly, so they must not be too bad yet. 8^)
>>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Christopher Bort
>>> <top...@thehundredacre.net> wrote:
>>>> On 8/16/12 at 9:24 PM, robert.is...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Really need this feature too! Obviously, I dont want to switch to
>>>>> another editor.
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 12:00:26 AM UTC+7, Lawson wrote:
>>>>>> Is Retina support in the works for the new Retina MacBook Pro? I
>>>>>> was totally shocked when I opened up TextWrangler and it was all
>>>>>> pixellated. That feature alone would almost be worth getting
>>>>>> BBEdit, if only it supported it either...
>>>> I just yesterday migrated my primary computer from Snow >>>>Leopard on a
>>>> first gen MacBook to Mountain Lion on a brand new Retina Display
>>>> MacBook Pro. FWIW, I am not seeing this issue. The text in
>>>> TextWrangler looks absolutely normal OMM. I've tried a variety of
>>>> fonts and sizes and everything, including my favored Monaco 9.
This makes me wonder if it's all of our systems that aren't working, or perhaps you're not comparing to a retina-enabled application. Here's a screenshot of 18pt Monaco. The top line is Text Wrangler, and the bottom line is Text Edit.
> On 8/27/12 at 6:36 AM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>> I left my MacBook Pro at work, so I wasn't able to (constructively) comment until now.
>> Monaco at 9pt is actually intentionally pixellated/blocky, so it looks
>> the same on a retina vs. non-retina display. I code in 18pt (who's
>> blind now?), and the difference is painfully obvious.
> I'm aware of Monaco's design and purpose. It's why I prefer it for plain text. As I've said, I've tried a variety of fonts and sizes, up to 24 pt, in TextWrangler. Font smoothing seems to be working just fine and everything is perfectly readable for me. I don't see any difference between TextWrangler and other applications on this system. I believe that people are seeing issues with text rendering on Retina displays, but on my own install, it appears to be behaving as expected. I'm simply offering this as a data point that might suggest there could be some other factor(s) in play besides just the retina display.
Thanks for the screenshot, Lawson. Now I see what I stand to gain if I go to TW4 and a newer machine.
I've stuck with TW 3.5.1 (because I simply cannot stand v4's left documents list), but I've been curious about the fuzziness discussed in this thread. Apparently TW4 isn't fuzzier than TW3, it just seems so when the rest of the environment becomes more crisp. Reading the thread, I thought something horrible had happened (in addition to the left documents list).
> This makes me wonder if it's all of our systems that aren't working, or perhaps you're not comparing to a retina-enabled application. Here's a screenshot of 18pt Monaco. The top line is Text Wrangler, and the bottom line is Text Edit.
> <textwrangler-retina.png>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6717840/textwrangler-retina.png
> On Aug 27, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Christopher Bort wrote:
>> On 8/27/12 at 6:36 AM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>>> I left my MacBook Pro at work, so I wasn't able to (constructively) comment until now.
>>> Monaco at 9pt is actually intentionally pixellated/blocky, so it looks
>>> the same on a retina vs. non-retina display. I code in 18pt (who's
>>> blind now?), and the difference is painfully obvious.
>> I'm aware of Monaco's design and purpose. It's why I prefer it for plain text. As I've said, I've tried a variety of fonts and sizes, up to 24 pt, in TextWrangler. Font smoothing seems to be working just fine and everything is perfectly readable for me. I don't see any difference between TextWrangler and other applications on this system. I believe that people are seeing issues with text rendering on Retina displays, but on my own install, it appears to be behaving as expected. I'm simply offering this as a data point that might suggest there could be some other factor(s) in play besides just the retina display.
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On 8/27/12 at 12:08 PM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>This makes me wonder if it's all of our systems that aren't working,
>or perhaps you're not comparing to a retina-enabled application.
>Here's a screenshot of 18pt Monaco. The top line is Text Wrangler,
>and the bottom line is Text Edit.
OK, I had not compared side-by-side like that. Now that I have, I do see the same difference OMM. From all the complaints on the list, I had expected the difference to be dramatic and render TextWrangler virtually unusable. Now that I see what all the fuss is about, I personally find the difference to be quite minor and not at all distressing. For normal use, TextWrangler is still quite readable to me. It would be nice to see TextWrangler made to be retina-enabled, but for my own use I'm not terribly concerned about it.
>On Aug 27, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Christopher Bort wrote:
>>On 8/27/12 at 6:36 AM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>>> I left my MacBook Pro at work, so I wasn't able to (constructively)
>>> comment
>until now.
>>> Monaco at 9pt is actually intentionally pixellated/blocky, >>>so it
>>> looks the same on a retina vs. non-retina display. I code in 18pt
>>> (who's blind now?), and the difference is painfully obvious.
>>I'm aware of Monaco's design and purpose. It's why I prefer it for
>>plain text.
>As I've said, I've tried a variety of fonts and sizes, up to 24 pt, in
>TextWrangler. Font smoothing seems to be working just fine and
>everything is perfectly readable for me. I don't see any difference
>between TextWrangler and other applications on this system. I believe
>that people are seeing issues with text rendering on Retina displays,
>but on my own install, it appears to be behaving as expected. I'm
>simply offering this as a data point that might suggest there could be
>some other factor(s) in play besides just the retina display.
At 06:42 p -0700 08/24/2012, Christopher Bort didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus:
>On 8/24/12 at 4:31 PM, law...@theculvers.us (Lawson Culver) wrote:
>>Maybe you need a retina upgrade. :-P
>While my retinas are not quite what they may have been a decade or >so ago, I can still read 9 point Monaco clearly, so they must not be >too bad yet. 8^)
If this were Facebook, I'd "Like" that comment. ;)
Hey Rich, is there an official (i.e., non-Community) Fb Page for BBSW?
Hey 10.8 users, does ProFont X still work?
-boo
at age 53, still finds 9pt Monaco/ProFont the *easiest* font to read with the naked eye. :-) (Even though my mom wore glasses and my sister does too. Just lucky I guess, lol)
