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Re: Mars/Pluto/Jupiter and Capricorn-Economic and Ecologic Destruction

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arctur...@earthlink.net

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Sep 17, 2008, 11:00:02 PM9/17/08
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On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >> As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> >> Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
> >> movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> >> acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.

> >> Throughout history the battle for religious dogmatic rule has been
> >> raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
> >> emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
> >> books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
> >> of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
> >> to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
> >> fervor and obsession (Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of
> >> action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
> >> allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
> >> US. That day is done.

> >> The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
> >> subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
> >> for the fraud it is. I warned of this years agohttp://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox

> >> As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
> >> the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
> >> years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
> >> Google, they can be accessed from this page
> >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/media_page.htm

> >> Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> >> repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> >> values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> >> Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> >> one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer, if you have planets at these
> >> degrees take precautions to protect your assets. Mars in its fall will
> >> focus this crisis in national and personal security.
> >> The environment contributes to the destruction with extreme weather
> >> conditions, wherein neither the weather nor business will be as
> >> "usual".
> >> Thank you again for allowing me to express my insights on these
> >> matters.

> >Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
> >territory.
> >What part of this was inaccurate?

And again today, 450 points, not to mention I was also accurate about
the ecologic destruction co-inciding.

> Care to bracket it with some dates?

> Ken Kizer

Wow, you're serious too. And then you wonder why I don't see how you
call yourself an astrologer (or any of you in aam). I also see then,
that you have never read anything I have written.
Let's start at the begininng:
I first published this notion in Horoscope magazine May 1996 issue:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/saturn.htm
"There will be great economic destructurization which will necessitate
power decentralization (this is already occurring from the computer
culture and the Internet). Our greatest difficulties will come from
not accepting responsibility for our own reality experiences and would
be reflected in governmental collapse from the old need to persuade
rather than constructively inform. And through the final recognition
that we have given far to much power to those in authority because of
the demise of the sense of service. New aspects of the higher self and
mind will have to be put to use by each individual (Uranus/Aquarius).
Our philosophical and religious beliefs will be shattered (Uranus
square Jupiter) and business will not be "as usual" (Uranus square
Saturn). As ego conflicts accelerate the potential for skirmishes
throughout the world will be increasing. Computer technology may be
opening many avenues for personal potential-and misuse. The
unsoundness of our values (s) and economic structures leads to
destruction (Saturn square Uranus) through power struggles and war
(Sun/Mars opposition Pluto, Pluto opposing Sun/Mars midpoint.) The
challenge is to recognize the true source of our abundance, and that
it does not result from special values but is available to all who
function from integrity and empowered self action."
Then, over and over again on usenet I pointed out this idea:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=economic+destructurization%2BEdmond+Wollmann&qt_s=Search

I wrote about it in my Astrological Mission Statement:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.metapsych/msg/3776cdea8422331e?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154?hl=en

And updated everyone on the idea in 2000:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.paranormal/msg/f71cb6af21c047a4?hl=en

Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm

And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
November 29, 2007 :
"Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with
the final one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,"

Then I posted this to AAM : http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/0004eae2854db94d?hl=en

Now any good astrologer knows that the Jupiter/Saturn cycle reflects
the economic cycle and that it starts with a conjunction (Last one
Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
conjunction and square which indicates economic destruction would be
triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently
Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008 conjunction the US Neptune
(dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.
Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
you sir are not. Nor do you read or follow along very well either.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c7bff4d?hl=en

"I still see her standing by the water
Standing there lookin' out to sea
And is she waiting there for me?
On the beach where we used to run

Galveston, oh Galveston, I am so afraid of dying
Before I dry the tears she's crying
Before I watch your sea birds flying in the sun
At Galveston, at Galveston" Glenn Campbell, Galveston

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2008 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
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woll...@csusm.edu

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Sep 18, 2008, 3:35:13 PM9/18/08
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On Sep 18, 10:33 am, CFA wrote:
> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:

> >On Sep 17, 8:50 pm, CFA wrote:
> >> >Wow, you're serious too. And then you wonder why I don't see how you
> >> >call yourself an astrologer (or any of you in aam).

> >> You coulda just spelled out your predictions. All this shit about
> >> who's an astrologer, and how good they are, is just mental
> >> masturbation.

> >I see. And posting links to websites

> Most people actually just quote one- a web site composed of some of
> your least astrological moments. Yeah, yeah, there are a few
> forgeries, but it's 99 and 44/100ths pure Edmond Wollmann.

Irrelevant and inconsequential. It simply shows the fear all mindless
and lifeless losers have of me, this is no reflection on me. No one
pays attention to them dispite you and others losers hopes that they
will. You waste your time and make fools of yourselves thinking
otherwise. I use usenet simply to prove astrology and my accuracy and
to archive my work for future persons with brains, what you imbeciles
think is not a part of my enviable life.
I am still the only one accurately predicting and showing how
astrology works, still a success in more than 10 fields and still
superior to anything to ever have posted here. I have a powerful
reputation for truth telling and you are a obsessed fan.

"Get Out Of My Way
Get Out Of My Life
I Don't Need Anybody To Tell Me
How To Be Right
Don't Try To Stop Me
I've Got The Answer
I Won't Need Anybody Except My Woman Tonight."
Paul McCartney, "Get Out of My Way"

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Non scrivetemi

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Sep 18, 2008, 5:53:08 PM9/18/08
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In article <9a8be0b1-eafa-44c3...@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com>

woll...@csusm.edu Yet another Wollmann sock puppet wrote:
>
>
> Irrelevant and inconsequential. It simply shows the fear all mindless
> and lifeless losers have of me

You spelled ridicule wrong.
HTH, OCDboi.

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Sep 18, 2008, 7:24:17 PM9/18/08
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woll...@csusm.edu wrote in
news:9a8be0b1-eafa-44c3...@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 18, 10:33 am, CFA wrote:
>> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>> >On Sep 17, 8:50 pm, CFA wrote:
>> >> >Wow, you're serious too. And then you wonder why I don't see how
>> >> >you call yourself an astrologer (or any of you in aam).
>
>> >> You coulda just spelled out your predictions. All this shit about
>> >> who's an astrologer, and how good they are, is just mental
>> >> masturbation.
>
>> >I see. And posting links to websites
>
>> Most people actually just quote one- a web site composed of some of
>> your least astrological moments. Yeah, yeah, there are a few
>> forgeries, but it's 99 and 44/100ths pure Edmond Wollmann.
>
> Irrelevant and inconsequential.

It's your own words. Nice to see you agree. But it's also a million
laughs at your expense.

> It simply shows the fear all mindless
> and lifeless losers have of me, this is no reflection on me.

They're your words, Pantyhead. Speaking of fear, I sure hope you've made
it to PF Chang's and enjoyed the crab wontons in the 8.5 years since you
pussied out of a delicious lunch. I also hope you didn't tip the valet
with food stamps, scumbag.

> No one
> pays attention to them dispite you and others losers hopes that they
> will. You waste your time and make fools of yourselves thinking
> otherwise. I use usenet simply to prove astrology and my accuracy and
> to archive my work for future persons with brains, what you imbeciles
> think is not a part of my enviable life.

I think I'm still waiting to tour your observatory, castle and airstrip.

> I am still the only one accurately predicting and showing how
> astrology works, still a success in more than 10 fields and still
> superior to anything to ever have posted here. I have a powerful
> reputation for truth telling and you are a obsessed fan.

Denial noted.

Way to go, Ken. Nobody gets Edmo frothing like you since Susan Boyle.

Flash Bazbo

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Sep 18, 2008, 11:51:59 PM9/18/08
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:35:13 -0700 (PDT), woll...@csusm.edu wrote:

>I have a powerful
>reputation for truth telling and you are a obsessed fan.

Where is this reputation in effect? Because it sure isn't prevalent
on the internet.

The Chief Instigator

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Sep 19, 2008, 12:58:24 AM9/19/08
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Too stupid to learn from your consistent failures, Wollk00k?
(Is it still February 2002 in whatever world you think you live in?)

--
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www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Rockford 5, Houston 2 (April 25)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 11 vs. Chicago, 7:35

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Sep 19, 2008, 8:28:17 AM9/19/08
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Flash Bazbo <djfl...@dlsfdslkf.cmk> wrote in
news:pd86d4h7p36r99qji...@4ax.com:

It's in Bizarro-Ed World, where Pantyhead dines on crab wontons at PF
Chang's and tips valets with real money with nary a dumpster in sight.

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Sep 19, 2008, 8:32:59 AM9/19/08
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The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote in
news:slrngd6cbg....@eris.io.com:

> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:53:08 +0200 (CEST), Non scrivetemi
> <nonscr...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote:
>> In article
>> <9a8be0b1-eafa-44c3...@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
>> woll...@csusm.edu Yet another Wollmann sock puppet wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Irrelevant and inconsequential. It simply shows the fear all
>>> mindless and lifeless losers have of me
>>
>> You spelled ridicule wrong.
>> HTH, OCDboi.
>
> Too stupid to learn from your consistent failures, Wollk00k?
> (Is it still February 2002 in whatever world you think you live in?)

It must be why Ed hasn't "sued the fuck out" of everyone. I don't know
about you but I can't wait to go to jail once Edmo drags those evul SPINICS
into court and becomes victorious over the W3C[1].

[1] World Wide Wollmann Conspiracy

The Chief Instigator

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Sep 19, 2008, 9:32:28 AM9/19/08
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To his credit (for what little that's worth), he still has yet to appear at
the PF Chang's in Sugar Land.

arctur...@earthlink.net

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Sep 19, 2008, 11:25:29 AM9/19/08
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> Then, over and over again on usenet I pointed out this idea:http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=economic+destructuriza...
>
> I wrote about it in my Astrological Mission Statement:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.metapsych/msg/3776cdea84...http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154?hl=en

>
> And updated everyone on the idea in 2000:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.paranormal/msg/f71cb6af21c047a4?hl=en
>
> Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm
>
> And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
> November 29, 2007 :
> "Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
> economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
> real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
> first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with
> the final one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,"
>
> Then I posted this to AAM :http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/0004eae285...

>
> Now any good astrologer knows that the Jupiter/Saturn cycle reflects
> the economic cycle and that it starts with a conjunction (Last one
> Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
> conjunction and square which indicates economic destruction would be
> triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently
> Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
> the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008 conjunction the US Neptune
> (dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.
> Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
> you sir are not. Nor do you read or follow along very well either.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c...

Now, this morning the market opens with the Moon right on the Jupiter/
Saturn conjunction point and squares Neptune as the US government
promises "fixes".
The prediction I made 12 years ago comes to pass.

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
Aeschylus

Email

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Sep 19, 2008, 2:55:05 PM9/19/08
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In article <9df127b5-cd5a-44cf...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> On Sep 17, 8:00=A0pm, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
>

Where's my law suit, punk?

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AtlantaWanker

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Sep 19, 2008, 5:27:32 PM9/19/08
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Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:

when are you ever going to get a life, dude?

Email

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Sep 19, 2008, 8:24:55 PM9/19/08
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AtlantaWanker <ro...@192.168.0.1> wrote:
>
> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>
> > woll...@csusm.edu wrote in
> > news:9a8be0b1-eafa-44c3...@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
> >
> >> On Sep 18, 10:33?am, CFA wrote:
> >>> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:

PKB.


Flash Bazbo

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Sep 20, 2008, 9:35:34 PM9/20/08
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:25:29 -0700 (PDT), arctur...@earthlink.net
wrote:

>Now, this morning the market opens with the Moon right on the Jupiter/
>Saturn conjunction point and squares Neptune as the US government
>promises "fixes".
>The prediction I made 12 years ago comes to pass.

Bwahahahahaha! 12 years? What a useless prediction.

el...@no.spam

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Sep 21, 2008, 11:19:43 PM9/21/08
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In article <9df127b5-cd5a-44cf...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>The prediction I made 12 years ago comes to pass.

Oh, please. Isn't there enough bullshit already in this world?

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Sep 22, 2008, 9:24:42 AM9/22/08
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There's no end to Pantyhead's bullshit.

al_s...@yahoo.com

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Sep 22, 2008, 12:54:15 PM9/22/08
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154

Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm

And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
November 29, 2007 :
"Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate
with
the final one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,"


Then I posted this to AAM : http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/0004eae285...


Now any good astrologer knows that the Jupiter/Saturn cycle reflects
the economic cycle and that it starts with a conjunction (Last one
Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
conjunction and square which indicates economic destruction would be
triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently
Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008 conjunction the US Neptune
(dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.
Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
you sir are not. Nor do you read or follow along very well either.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c...

AtlantaWanker

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Sep 22, 2008, 1:44:11 PM9/22/08
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Email wrote:

i'm fine with this since you set up the analogy that cujo needs to get a
life. perhaps i do need to "get a life" (haha) but i don't pursue it on
teh usernets with a gang of retards who are ready to hump into a thread at
any second.

i find that to be profoundly lame.

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Vphone

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Sep 22, 2008, 4:18:48 PM9/22/08
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al_s...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
>
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >

Sock puppet abuse noted.


Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Sep 22, 2008, 6:32:14 PM9/22/08
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al_s...@yahoo.com wrote in
news:17016d08-711e-4440...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com:

.
> Now any good astrologer [slap!]

That leaves you and that horrid book out, Pantyhead.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"When the students and newsgroups and world is ready, the master appears"
- Edmond Wollmann, trying ever so hard to be modest.

Edmond Wollmann PMAFA

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Sep 22, 2008, 7:46:48 PM9/22/08
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On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:

> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and

> To repeat...

> *Any* astrologer can see the Uranus/Pluto square coming in ~4 years.
> That's the equivalent of ~1961 or 2 in astrological time, and that
> tells me pretty much all I really need to know about the overall
> direction of things for the next several years. The rest is just
> foreplay.

Ken Kizer, astrologer who predicted nothing accurate in 12 years on
usenet.

Yes, Ken, you are all such accomplished astrologers. Just like Noel
Tyl predicted the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction was Isreal at war!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahyahhaha!

Unfortunately for all of you *I* am the one who has consistently
evidenced what real astrologers do. You can tell how obsessed all you
freaks are with me because of my obvious proficiency, 12 years of
trying to put someone down. You'd think by now you losers would
realize how idiotic you look. As previous posters have said, you guys
are lucky when I do answer you at all.

Woe unto you hypocrites!
Blind guides!
You do not enter the kingdom of heaven yourselves-nor do you allow
others to
enter.
You strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.

You bow to the letter of the law and violate the heart of the law!

Justice! Mercy! Good faith!

Yours is a house of desolation!

You shall not see me here again until you learn to cry!!

Blessed is he who comes in the name of the lord, for I and my father
are one
and the same!

The Christ in The synoptic gospels

VPhone

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Sep 22, 2008, 8:30:11 PM9/22/08
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In article <f40a277e-16c6-45c5...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>

Edmond Wollmann K00K <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately for all of you *I* am the one who has consistently
>

Spammed incoherent screed FOR YEARS NOW!!1!!

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Sep 22, 2008, 9:12:25 PM9/22/08
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Edmond Wollmann PMAFA <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:f40a277e-16c6-
45c5-8377-9...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:
>> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
>
>> To repeat...
>
>> *Any* astrologer can see the Uranus/Pluto square coming in ~4 years.
>> That's the equivalent of ~1961 or 2 in astrological time, and that
>> tells me pretty much all I really need to know about the overall
>> direction of things for the next several years. The rest is just
>> foreplay.
>
> Ken Kizer, astrologer who predicted nothing accurate in 12 years on
> usenet.

"Bush will lose" - Ed fucks up a prediction twice.


> Yes, Ken, you are all such accomplished astrologers. Just like Noel
> Tyl predicted the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction was Isreal at war!
> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahyahhaha!

You're an idiot, Edmo.


> Unfortunately for all of you *I* am the one who has consistently
> evidenced what real astrologers do. You can tell how obsessed all you
> freaks are with me because of my obvious proficiency, 12 years of
> trying to put someone down. You'd think by now you losers would
> realize how idiotic you look. As previous posters have said, you guys
> are lucky when I do answer you at all.

Frothfest noted. A bonus check is on its way to Ken.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"I have always thought that the reason Dinosaurs were so big is because
of the dramatic difference in gravitational strength between that time
period and now" - Edmo the paleontologist.

Fujikawa Yamamoto

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Sep 23, 2008, 1:57:58 AM9/23/08
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On 22 Sep 2008, Edmond Wollmann PMAFA <alcha...@yahoo.com> posted some
news:f40a277e-16c6-45c5...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:
>> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
>
>> To repeat...
>
>> *Any* astrologer can see the Uranus/Pluto square coming in ~4 years.
>> That's the equivalent of ~1961 or 2 in astrological time, and that
>> tells me pretty much all I really need to know about the overall
>> direction of things for the next several years. The rest is just
>> foreplay.
>

> Ken Kizer, astrologer who predicted <snip>

When will you be answering this question, Edmo?

>> http://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
>

>
> Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
> territory.
> What part of this was inaccurate?
>

Where exactly is that specific text in the link you provided, Edmo?

Edmond Heinz Wollmann-Astrologer

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On Sep 22, 10:57 pm, Fujikawa Yamamoto <am...@now-flushed.org> wrote:
> On 22 Sep 2008, Edmond Wollmann PMAFA <alchame...@yahoo.com> posted somenews:f40a277e-16c6-45c5...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

>
> > On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:
> >> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and

> > Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative


> > territory.
> > What part of this was inaccurate?

> Where exactly is that specific text in the link you provided, Edmo?  

Are blind, deaf, and dumb?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/db9300a9c6782074?hl=en

You are spamming, fuckhead. Either discuss an astrological issue or
get a life and stop spamming the same irrelevant question.

Fujikawa Yamamoto

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Sep 27, 2008, 5:07:13 AM9/27/08
to
On 23 Sep 2008, Edmond Heinz Wollmann-Astrologer <alcha...@yahoo.com>
posted some
news:ce04cf95-3481-4acd...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 22, 10:57 pm, Fujikawa Yamamoto <am...@now-flushed.org> wrote:
>> On 22 Sep 2008, Edmond Wollmann PMAFA <alchame...@yahoo.com> posted
>> somen
> ews:f40a277e-16c6-45c5...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:
>> >> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly,
>> >> >and
>
>> > Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
>> > territory.
>> > What part of this was inaccurate?
>
>> Where exactly is that specific text in the link you provided, Edmo?  
>
> Are blind, deaf, and dumb?

I guess you are, or you're deliberately evading the question. This is the
link you provided/snipped: http://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox. Looks like you were
trying to soothe your conscience by rationalizing good and bad. Didn't
say anything about a stock market crash tho...

Nice bit of seed tripe you planted below. Took a tip from Sollog did you?

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/db9300a9c6782074?hl=en
>
> You are spamming, fuckhead. Either discuss an astrological issue or
> get a life and stop spamming the same irrelevant question.

I did and you failed to have an acceptable answer. BTW, I got your
fuckhead right here.

http://www.imagedump.com/image.cgi?file=515933.jpg

arctur...@earthlink.net

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On Sep 20, 6:35 pm, Flash Bazbo <djflsd...@dlsfdslkf.cmk> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:25:29 -0700 (PDT), arcturian...@earthlink.net

> wrote:
>
> >Now, this morning the market opens with the Moon right on the Jupiter/
> >Saturn conjunction point and squares Neptune as the US government
> >promises "fixes".
> >The prediction I made 12 years ago comes to pass.
>
> Bwahahahahaha!  12 years?  What a useless prediction.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/edd3fa95250d2a3a?hl=en

Which I reiterated over and over again FOR the past 12 years.

I have fulfilled the Amazing idiot Randi's requirements about 5 times
now with time stamped accurate predictions, where's my millions?
Where's the fraud Randi now?

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our
inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the
state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

Edmond Wollmann

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to
arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
> > >territory.
> > >What part of this was inaccurate?
>
> And again today, 450 points, not to mention I was also accurate about
> the ecologic destruction co-inciding.
>
> > Care to bracket it with some dates?
>
> > Ken Kizer
>
> Wow, you're serious too. And then you wonder why I don't see how you
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.metapsych/msg/3776cdea8422331e?hl=en
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154?hl=en

>
> And updated everyone on the idea in 2000:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.paranormal/msg/f71cb6af21c047a4?hl=en
>
> Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm
>
> And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
> November 29, 2007 :
> "Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
> economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
> real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
> first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with
> the final one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,"
>
> Then I posted this to AAM : http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/0004eae2854db94d?hl=en


> Now any good astrologer knows that the Jupiter/Saturn cycle reflects
> the economic cycle and that it starts with a conjunction (Last one
> Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
> conjunction and square which indicates economic destruction would be
> triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently

> Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
> the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008 conjunction the US Neptune
> (dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.

And the final square of Neptune to the Jupiter/Saturn Conjunction will
be on January 9, 2009.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c7bff4d?hl=en

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2008 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/

Edmond Wollmann

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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c7bff4d?hl=en

Final square brings the report of 2.6 million jobs lost in the US, banks
still not lending, markets still suppressed. Business definately not as
usual exactly as I predicted.
The northwest states underwater from rain and snowmelt.
I rest my case.

Those who hear not the music-
Think the dancers mad.
--

Superpack

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to
In article <496824...@earthlink.net>

Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >
> > arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > >
> >

Where's my lawsuit, bitch?


Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Jan 10, 2009, 2:02:47 AM1/10/09
to
Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:496824...@earthlink.net:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>> arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
>> > > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>> > > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:

you followed up yourself *four fucking times*, you kook!

> Final square brings the report of 2.6 million jobs lost in the US,
> banks still not lending, markets still suppressed. Business definately
> not as usual exactly as I predicted.

Sentence structure kooky and incoherent. <- Exactly as I predicted.

> The northwest states underwater from rain and snowmelt.

You predicted this to occur on this date? Show me!

> I rest my case.

You still need a competant editor, Pantyhead.

--
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Apr 11, 2009, 11:32:38 AM4/11/09
to
On Mar 2, 9:45 pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> EdmondWollmannwrote:
>
> > EdmondWollmannwrote:

>
> > > arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
> > > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> > > > > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > > > >> AsJupitermoves intoCapricornbusiness expansion is reversed. As
> > > > > >> Pluto moves intoCapricornbusiness power is threatened. Both of these

> > > > > >> movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> > > > > >> acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
>
> > > > > >> Throughout history the battle for religious dogmatic rule has been
> > > > > >> raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
> > > > > >> emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
> > > > > >> books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
> > > > > >> of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
> > > > > >> to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
> > > > > >> fervor and obsession (Jupiterand Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of

> > > > > >> action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
> > > > > >> allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
> > > > > >> US. That day is done.
>
> > > > > >> The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
> > > > > >> subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
> > > > > >> for the fraud it is. I warned of this years agohttp://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
>
> > > > > >> As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
> > > > > >> the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
> > > > > >> years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
> > > > > >> Google, they can be accessed from this page
> > > > > >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/media_page.htm
>
> > > > > >> Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> > > > > >> repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> > > > > >> values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> > > > > >> Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> > > > > >> one which occurs at 0Capricorn/Cancer, if you have planets at these
> > > > squareJupiter) and business will not be "as usual" (Uranus square

> > > >Saturn). As ego conflicts accelerate the potential for skirmishes
> > > > throughout the world will be increasing. Computer technology may be
> > > > opening many avenues for personal potential-and misuse. The
> > > > unsoundness of our values (s) and economic structures leads to
> > > > destruction (Saturnsquare Uranus) through power struggles and war

> > > > (Sun/Mars opposition Pluto, Pluto opposing Sun/Mars midpoint.) The
> > > > challenge is to recognize the true source of our abundance, and that
> > > > it does not result from special values but is available to all who
> > > > function from integrity and empowered self action."
> > > > Then, over and over again on usenet I pointed out this idea:
> > > >http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=economic+destructuriza...

>
> > > > I wrote about it in my Astrological Mission Statement:
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.metapsych/msg/3776cdea84...

> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154?hl=en
>
> > > > And updated everyone on the idea in 2000:
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.paranormal/msg/f71cb6af21c047a4?hl=en
>
> > > > Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:
> > > >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm
>
> > > > And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
> > > > November 29, 2007 :
> > > > "Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
> > > > economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
> > > > real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
> > > > first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with
> > > > the final one which occurs at 0Capricorn/Cancer,"
>
> > > > Then I posted this to AAM :http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/0004eae285...
>
> > > > Now any good astrologer knows that theJupiter/Saturncycle reflects

> > > > the economic cycle and that it starts with aconjunction(Last one
> > > >JupiterandSaturnin Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
> > > >conjunctionand square which indicates economic destruction would be

> > > > triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently
>
> > > > Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
> > > > the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008conjunctionthe US Neptune

> > > > (dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.
>
> > > And the final square of Neptune to theJupiter/SaturnConjunctionwill
> > > be on January 9, 2009.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c...

>
> > Final square brings the report of 2.6 million jobs lost in the US, banks
> > still not lending, markets still suppressed. Business definately not as
> > usual exactly as I predicted.
> > The northwest states underwater from rain and snowmelt.
> > I rest my case.
>
> > Those who hear not the music-
> > Think the dancers mad.

> And today, for you astrologers, what aspect reflects the further
> decline?
> T Moon in Taurus, squaring Mercury conjunct Mars (Aquarius) @ 20-21.
> Yes, that's right, right on theJupiter/SaturnConjunctionpoint square
> Uranus of 2000.
> The market is now at 1996 levels, exactly the year I published the
> forcasted decline and economic destruction.
> Are there really no other astrologers but me who saw this?
> Unbelievable!
> Hello?!http://tinyurl.com/akqh6d

Now we see a Bear market rally as Jupiter conjoins the 21 degree
Aquarius trigger point.
Isn't astrology great!
So simple and useful.

Edmond H.Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.          
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603

The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/

Borked Pseudo Mailed

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Apr 11, 2009, 1:25:08 PM4/11/09
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In article <d2fc4441-348d-4cd3...@r28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>
arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:

>
> On Mar 2, 9:45=A0pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> >
> > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> >
> > > > arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >

Flush!


arctur...@earthlink.net

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Apr 19, 2009, 12:18:52 PM4/19/09
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On Apr 11, 8:32 am, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:

Now, on May 12th there will be major shifts in the world economy as
the Sun conjoins the Great Earth conjunction and moves on to square
Jupiter. Saturn is the cure for developmental aspects to Jupiter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLkABxWn8wU

Edmond H.WollmannP.M.A.F.A.          

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Apr 19, 2009, 1:31:33 PM4/19/09
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arctur...@earthlink.net wrote in
news:0adc5ccd-5981-4d6c...@r37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 11, 8:32 am, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> On Mar 2, 9:45 pm, EdmondWollmann<arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > EdmondWollmannwrote:
>>
>> > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
>>
>> > > > arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> > > > > On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
>> > > > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
>> > > > > > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:

Kooksign times six!

Obsession noted, Pantyhead.

--
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"Now go refund every single previous client's money because you
obviously fuck up every time you practice astrology." Alan Williams
evaluates Raytard Murphy's skill as an astrologer.

Eco

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Apr 19, 2009, 1:53:26 PM4/19/09
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In article <0adc5ccd-5981-4d6c...@r37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> On Apr 11, 8:32=A0am, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:

> > On Mar 2, 9:45=A0pm, EdmondWollmann<arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> >
> > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> >
> > > > > arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
> > > > > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> > > > > > > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
> >
>

You're pathetic!

Edmond Wollmann

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Apr 19, 2009, 10:45:18 PM4/19/09
to

Mercury Rx between May 6th and 30th indicates a reasessment period for
all matters economic and its station forward is right on the Jupiter/
Saturn conjunction! A word to the wise is sufficient.

Sales

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Apr 20, 2009, 12:18:49 AM4/20/09
to
In article <18616126-eccd-4e38...@w40g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
Edmond Wollmann <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 19, 9:18=A0am, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > On Apr 11, 8:32=A0am, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 2, 9:45=A0pm, EdmondWollmann<arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> >
> > > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> >
> > > > > > arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
> > > > > > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
> > > > > > > > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>

Spamming noted.


Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Apr 20, 2009, 8:06:43 PM4/20/09
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Edmond Wollmann <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:18616126-eccd-4e38...@w40g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 19, 9:18 am, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 8:32 am, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 2, 9:45 pm, EdmondWollmann<arcturian...@earthlink.net>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
>>
>> > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
>>
>> > > > > arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
>> > > > > > > EdmondWollmannwrote:
>> > > > > > > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:

Obsession noted and ridiculed, Pantyhead.

--
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"Nope, all my prophecy belongs to the logical analysis of astrological
and psychological data." - Edmo dreams of becoming a cautionary tale.

Edmond H. Wollmann

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to
arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >> As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> > >> Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these

> > >> movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> > >> acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
>
> > >> Throughout history the battle for religious dogmatic rule has been
> > >> raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
> > >> emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
> > >> books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
> > >> of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
> > >> to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
> > >> fervor and obsession (Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of

> > >> action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
> > >> allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
> > >> US. That day is done.
>
> > >> The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
> > >> subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
> > >> for the fraud it is. I warned of this years agohttp://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
>
> > >> As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
> > >> the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
> > >> years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
> > >> Google, they can be accessed from this page
> > >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/media_page.htm
>
> > >> Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> > >> repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> > >> values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> > >> Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> > >> one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer, if you have planets at these
> square Jupiter) and business will not be "as usual" (Uranus square

> Saturn). As ego conflicts accelerate the potential for skirmishes
> throughout the world will be increasing. Computer technology may be
> opening many avenues for personal potential-and misuse. The
> unsoundness of our values (s) and economic structures leads to
> destruction (Saturn square Uranus) through power struggles and war

> (Sun/Mars opposition Pluto, Pluto opposing Sun/Mars midpoint.) The
> challenge is to recognize the true source of our abundance, and that
> it does not result from special values but is available to all who
> function from integrity and empowered self action."
> Then, over and over again on usenet I pointed out this idea:
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=economic+destructurization%2BEdmond+Wollmann&qt_s=Search

>
> I wrote about it in my Astrological Mission Statement:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.metapsych/msg/3776cdea8422331e?hl=en

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154?hl=en
>
> And updated everyone on the idea in 2000:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.paranormal/msg/f71cb6af21c047a4?hl=en
>
> Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm
>
> And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
> November 29, 2007 :
> "Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
> economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
> real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
> first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with
> the final one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,"
>
> Then I posted this to AAM : http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/0004eae2854db94d?hl=en
>
> Now any good astrologer knows that the Jupiter/Saturn cycle reflects
> the economic cycle and that it starts with a conjunction (Last one
> Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
> conjunction and square which indicates economic destruction would be

> triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently
> Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
> the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008 conjunction the US Neptune

> (dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.
> Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
> you sir are not. Nor do you read or follow along very well either.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c7bff4d?hl=en

Hello?


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